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Jasmine Balconnet Bra (6951)

Since AW2012 - Unpadded balconette bra with side support panels and a stretchy top section. More...

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  1. 16
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    32K

    Didn't fit

    Ok, just gotta say right off, this bra is amazing!
    No it doesn't fit me 100% perfectly, but I pretty much think nothing ever will. However, no bra, ever has made my boobs look as good as this. It literally made me giggly when I tried it on, it's that good.
    If you have breasts are anything like mine (wide root, close-set, soft, uneven sizes) you must get this bra. It's like some kinda bra magic.

    The cups are four-section, including a side support panel. The lower two sections and the side section are made of very lightweight fine non-stretchy mesh material that is very supportive. (Others have found it ... stiff at first, I just find it excellently supportive.) This material is printed with an elegant birds and plants print. (no raised bits to show through clothing) The shape and location of the seam between the lower panels and the upper panel is perfect for me. (Sometimes this seam is too low and can create a bad, bottom-curved but then squarish shape.) The cup is nice and deep at the bottom and the stiffer material creates a nice rounded shape.

    The upper section of the cup is really where the magic happens. This section is made of black stretch lace. It is just the right amount of stretch to accommodate and contain my soft, uneven boobs that have a tendency to spill over the tops of cups, while helping create a fantastic high, forward, and round shape, without flattening. The lace does seem a bit delicate, so I will be sure to treat this bra very gently when washing, etc.

    It is a "banded" bra, in that there is a small amount of band below the cups and to the sides of the cups, with a vertical seam (no boning) before the back band itself starts. The back band is a medium-weight stretchy mesh (plain black).

    The straps are satiny and padded. They are actually somewhat thicker than I'd really prefer with the look of the rest of the bra. They are by far the most heavy-seeming component. They only adjust partially, and a fairly small section at that, so this may be an issue for some folks.
    The straps are attached to the top of the side support panel, at what I think is a somewhat unfortunate angle. It's not that different than most balcony style bras, but sort of clashes with the rest of the shape of the bra and who it will be good for. (The bra otherwise fits like a sexy, light full coverage bra.) Certainly, for me at least, the straps angle is too outward and makes the outside edge of the cup and beginning of the straps dig into my arm/armpit a little.
    However, I first wore it for around 7 hours while attending a wedding, including dancing, etc. and it didn't bother me that much. I do think I will try to change the angle of the straps a little by taking a tuck to the inside in the section the straps are attached to.
    (I really do wish companies would realize that when you have a cup this big and a band this small you really can't attach the straps way at the outside of the cup and pointing outward. The attachment point is already starting to be around my side, the straps *need* to go in somewhat to hit my shoulders properly.)

    I had heard that Panache made some changes in the underwires for this model, and holy heck, yes they are way better. They are much lighter and thinner, but still plenty strong. And they don't come up as high, either on the outside of the cup or at the gore as other Panache models I've tried. (No poking my armpits!!!) The thinner underwires also contribute to one of the narrowest center gores I've seen. Great improvements Panache! The wires (cup width) are a touch narrower than I'd really prefer, but I usually take extremely wide wires.

    It's possible that one cup size bigger would fit better, but a) to get that I would have to go up a band size (because they don't make a KK) and Panache 34's are pretty much always too big one me (I have initially been wearing this Jasmine on the tightest hook of an extender, though I *can* close the band without it, it is more comfortable with the extender until it is broken in a little.) and b) I suspect the larger cup size wouldn't create such a fantastic shape. Since I am treating this as mostly a dressing up/special occasion bra I'm willing to sacrifice 100% comfort for looking awesome. (Seriously, my boobs have not ever looked anything like, oh say, CurvyWordy's from the top view. But in this bra they kinda do!)

    As far as sizing, this bra seems to fit similarly to other Panache banded models (like the Tango line). It seems to run fairly "true-to-size", inasmuch as that is possible to say with bras. In general I would say I seem to be between 32K/KK and 34JJ/K. This is consistent with that. The 32 is just a touch snug, but the 34 would definitely be too big. (I guess I really need a 33K, lol. Half a band size bigger and half a cup size bigger would probably be exactly perfect in this bra.)

    This bra is the lightest of any I've tried or own in this size or similar. (It's about 25% lighter than my everyday Goddess Kiera's.) It reminds me a little of Pour Moi? bras, except definitely more sturdily constructed. The stretch lace top section makes it perfect for soft and/or uneven boobs. And the improvements to the underwires should eliminate issues many have had with past Panache models. Highly recommended!

    Edited to add: It occurs to me that this bra is kinda like a half-cup bra with guard-lace! It seems like it does for full, soft boobs something like what a half-cup bra can do for someone who won't spill over the top, but it has the lace bit on top to keep the top part contained.

    Edit2: One thing I am noticing as I continue to wear this bra, the underwires are starting to poke in the middle a bit. The wires are thin and not very padded, so they are starting to poke my sternum some. I think I will sew a small piece of felt or something to pad them a little more and that will probably fix it.
    Also I wanted to note that for those who, like me, have no space at all between their boobs, the wires in this bra are pretty cooperative about twisting themselves so they lay pretty much one on top of the other (for me my larger side tends to push the wire outward), which, is actually a pretty good way of dealing with the no space in the middle problem.

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    • Thank you for this review! I am going to order one of these asap. I am very excited about trying this one!

    • Oh, you described it the same way I described for MilkAndHoney halfcups should be made for soft boobs! I think Andorra works a little like that as well. I now want to try the Jasmine.

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  2. I made peace with Jasmine https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />
    When I first put it on, the gore wouldn't lay flat, I couldn't tighten the straps short enough, the bra felt really uncomfortable, The wires dug in at the arpit and at the bottom, I couldn't pull the wires where they are supposed to be - I felt there is not enough space for my boobs around them, and the fabric of the cups gave me a rash on my right boob o.O
    Now, this bra needs to be washed before you even try it on !!
    Except for the rash, those were all basic problems I ... have with most my bras.
    HOWEVER

    I managed to bend the wires to fit me comfortably, I even bent the gore to lay flat.
    I realized that wih some fiddling I could shorten the straps even on the padded part.
    Now Jasmine fits like a dream https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />))

    The band
    Perfect, snug, back fat minimising, 3 hooks and quite sturdy

    The straps
    Too thin if you ask me. Nicely padded, you can adjust all the way with some playing around, but I don't think theye are ment to be fully adjustable.

    The wires
    They are narrower and shorter than most panache wires. I really see this as an major improvement. The gore is also narrower.

    The cups
    4 - part cups with the lace upper section. The fabric is very sturdy and I think it will last. However, the lace seems VERY delicate and thin, and at the same time it's VERY stretchy. I am courious how this will behave with wear. This type of lace could be at the same time the strongest, and the weakest point of the bra.
    I feel the cups are a bit deeper than the andorra.

    The comfort
    I am really impressed with cup construction - the lace part is great, it's like spidersweb - very thin, silky and I don't feel it at all. The band is really comfortable and snug, I don't even feel the wires that much now that Ive bent them. The only place I feel the bra is the straps - they digg in a bit, my boobs are too heavy for such thin straps.

    The shape
    This one really does give great shape and uplift. The profile is round - but not the fake round you sometimes get from cleo, but more natural round. I even feel like it slightly minimises the bust without compromising on projection. It's not exactly the green shape, but it isn't that far from it - I don't have any boob bumping with arms https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />
    Not really sure how this is possible https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=":D" />
    The side support pannel centers the boobs much more than the andorra

    Room from improvement
    - wider straps!!!
    - print - not really my cup of tea.
    - I'd like to have this in some lighter colours also, white or nude.

    Conclusion
    Highly reccomend. I think this bra will work for almost every shape out there. Great everyday bra.
    I feel this bra is anoucing new era in panache bras and I think it is proof that bramakers really hear our feedback.

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    • Oh please, pictures :) I am very curious about how you bent the wires to make it fit :)

    • I actually bend the wires while wearing the bra. I bend them in the middle, on the very bottom if cups, and at the middle of the gore. I angled it more inwards to make it sit flat. I think this wires are softer than your usual panache :)

    • Softer wires than usual Panache :O I might need to try this bra after all if only for the wires. I really hate Panache wires.

      We really must have the total opposite in rib cage shapes however :D

    • Thanks for the detailed review Vlatka! I wore it yesterday for the first time. I still think the 30JJ is a bit generous for my smaller breast, but it's a better fit than I originally thought. It indeed must be deeper in the cups than the Andorra, because the Andorra in 30J really was too small for me. But because I already got a kind of orange in a glass thingie on my bigger side, a smaller cup probably won't work either. I just couldn't send it back;) And yes it really gives a great upfront look under clothes. However I was bit a bit black and blue after wearing it for a while, because the center gore won't sit flat on me either - the wires rest thoroughley at breast tissue. Especially my left boob - the bigger one - was a bit black and blue after wearing it. But I will follow your advise and try to bend it. But how did you manage to adjust the non-adjustable part of the straps? On my smaller side I really I need to shorten them a bit more than now is possible;)
      By the way, I've encountered a white version on Ebay. So it does exist in other colours;)

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      Wow, I'll look for that, thanks.
      Now, the straps - you won't be able to shorten it just by pulling up the plastic thingy - you have to pull the strap out with your finger from the middle of the plastic adjuster and then straighten it down - that way you can pull through the padded part too. Am I making any sense?
      As for the wires - I had the same problem. After bending the gore, you'll have to scoop your boobs away from the gore :)

    • I think the next version is a flower print. I look forward to that one, I don't like bird prints at all.

      The bottom section on Jasmine is cut much higher than the bottom section of Andorra. That's why everyone think it's deeper I assume. While the Andorra has the bottom and upper sections being about the same height the Jasmine is clearly bigger on the bottom.

      That's why it's probably a true bummer for me. I am not full where that bra is full :D

    • You are right! That explains why my nipples aren't peaking through the lace :D :facepalm:

    • Since I saw you in that Amourette Triumph bra I maybe should have known better than suggesting the Andorra to you :O My boobs are kind of upside down from yours :D

      But you should make a bra adventure about the scoping from the center gore! That was genious. I just did it on my Andorra :D

    • Gervaise, are you sure that wasnt the elomi jasmine? Ive been looking for it, cant find it :(

    • @Vlatka, yes you do make sense. I tried it, but I almost ruined my fingers, haha. I think I am going to try it with a knitting needle or something similar.
      About the white version. Here it is http://www.ebay.nl/itm/NEW-Panache-Bras-Jasmin-Underwired-Bra-White-30D-/120634326258?pt=UK_Women_s_Lingerie&hash=item1c165dbcf2#ht_1489wt_1057. But unfortunately it's a D cup, so not very useful;)

    • Eliza, bratabase also reccomended andorra to me :) it's a nice bra, just a bit more east-west than I'd like but not nearly as bad as amourette :))) hate that bra with a passion :) sid the gore thing work on the andorra? i thought everybody did the scooping thing that way :)

    • eliza, yes I also think the bottom section is higher than on the Andorra. But still it also has a deeper cup, I am quite sure about it;)

    • Gervaise, Im pretty sure that is not the same bra, the cut is different - this is a 3 part cup, and our jasmine is a 4 part :) Never saw this bra in my life :)

    • @Vlatka: Can you add pics of you in the Andorra? I'm curious.

      Also the scoping from the center gore kind of works but the wires ends a little bit lower.

    • Gervaise: It being deeper is an even bigger bummer for me. Damn ;/

    • @Vlatka, after taking a better look at it, I guess you are right. This can't be the same item. Weird...

    • eliza, to be honest I liked the Andorra more than the Jasmine. Probably indeed because the Andorra has a smaller bottom section. Although the Jasmine gives a better shape under clothes. Like Vlatka says, indeed less east/west-ish. And also a bit firmer than the Andorra. I think Alisa noticed this too when they compared both styles.

    • Gervaise: Ah I see. The 34J Andorra on the tightest hook on me is perfectly rounded but my boobs are way closer to my body than yours (if I'm in the right size and shape that is!) so I can understand how it can become east and west for you.

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      @Vlatka, I read you advice again regarding the strap adjust, and now I also managed to non-adjustable part with my fingers:)

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      Oops. Sloppy me.. I meant: I managed to adjust the non-adjustable part with my fingers;)

    • Great review, Vlatka. I have also had problems with the wires (have with almost all my bras) but I haven't bent them because first I wanted to send the bra back. Now I have finally ordered a 30JJ of Jasmine. Can't wait for it :):) Btw. Figleaves has a 20% off offer now ;)
      That Jasmin(e) in white I think this is an old style of Panache, it looks nothing like this one. The will be a new flower version with navy blue lace for next season of Jasmine.

    • Yes, Panache has reused the name Jasmine for their bras. Very strange move I think but there is clearly an old model out there named Jasmine. It's available from Undercoverexperience as well.

      Thanks for that 20% Figleaves discount notice Alica!

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      Good news for you! :) Panache is coming out not only with Jasmine in a pale pink color for next season (A/W), but there's a new neutral based off the Jasmine coming out that will come in beige and black. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but they're on their way!

    • Envy and Dahlia I think they are called :)) I know, I will go bankrupt this fall :))

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  3. 4
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    32JJ

    Hasn't set fit

    Jasmine is currently my best fitting bra, with Ewa's SF coming in second (but one cup size up from this).

    So i decided I needed a second one, but not in black. I almost bought this bra when it was on sale (not much on sale, really. Like $10 off) But it sold out in my size! I was determined to buy the new blue floral coming out SS 2017 AS SOON as it hit amazon - but it came out missing several J and JJ sizes, including 32JJ. Luckily this one came back in stock and I scooped it up!

    It seems to fit slightly ... smaller than my last Jasmine - or maybe I'm still gaining weight (cry!). No quadding, but no extra room up top. Similarly rough fabric to my black jasmine. But as usual, Jasmine gives me great projection so my breasts dont fold on the bottom, like they do in Ewas. The band and wire are very firm, needing only maybe one adjustment throughout the day, as opposed to every two hours with Ewas.

    Yay for panache Jasmine!! in blue!

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    • ack, edited it but its not updating lol - extra text in first paragraph. whatever

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      Beautiful bra and great fit! Glad you are so happy with it!

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      Yay! I'm glad you got your blue Jasmine.

      Amazon price fluctuations are crazy! I just got a 34G Panache Dahlia that had been $49, then $22, $27, back up to $49, then down to $21 when I bought it. The day after it was down another dollar, now it's $55. Not different sellers either, every time the seller was Amazon.com.

      If you can wait and check prices every so often you can save a lot of money.

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      Wow this Jasmine looks much better irl than advertised online! Looks great on you :)

      I agree Jasmine's fabric is a bit rough. But still a well designed bra with a forgiving fit!

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      I love this print. It reminds me of summer days. The fit is also beautiful.

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      You'll notice that the color changes between my pictures - I dont think its quite that bright, super-vivid blue that it looks like in some of these pics tho. Idk, its upstairs hanging on a hanger in my shower tho lol - measured it, washed it!

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      It is much nicer than the stock pictures looked .. and the fit is really nice . No wonder it feels better than than your others look at that depth almost two inches deeper than your ewa's . Actually two inches that I need, I need to pick up a Jasmine to try . Though scratchy fabric sounds meh

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      yeah, it gives the boobies room to stretch out! When i started this journey, I kept saying they were so soft, they'd flow like water in to any shape. It took a long time to realize thats not quite true. They are long and omega.

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      SO pretty!

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      Ivp try the Cleo Hettie Balconnet Bra (9011)! The shape is a lot like Jasmine but the fabric is sooo much softer. The band is really nice.

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  4. So when I first picked up the new Caramel colorway the band measurements were a pinch over 29/34, snugger than your average new Jasmine. (Really, I measured a couple extra times to make sure since I'm familiar enough with an expected range for Jasmine.) This works out great for me, as I've lost just enough weight to be on the upper end of 34 bands, am going to second hook pretty fast on 36 bands, and can't return this particular bra (local boutique special order).

    I did notice a bit of wrinkling on the cups, probably from band over stretching the first few wears, that has mostly smoothed out. ... It's probably more noticeable being a solid, lighter colorway, where prints would easily mask minor wrinkling near the seams. Situations like these are also why I prefer to wear a bra for about a month before writing a review. A handful of solid, day to day wears really helps shake out how well a bra will work for you in the long run, not unlike a pair of shoes.

    The band is now at 30/35 so I've updated my initial measurements, but if you pick up the new Caramel colorway keep in mind it may be a bit more snug than expected your first few wears.

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      I recently purchased the caramel colorway of the Jasmine and completely agree that it runs tight. I purchased the 30GG and even though I can wear 28s in Freya and 30 in all of my other Panache bras, including the Jasmine in other colorways, this bra is too tight for me. I am waiting a few weeks to loose a few holiday pounds before I wear it.

    • I just got this bra in Caramel. I picked it up in a 30 band, as my other Jasmine (blue snake print) in a 32 band seemed to stretch out really fast and I discovered I really need a 30 band in most UK bras anyway. I can't even hook it on the loosest hook, so I was thinking of returning it and getting a 32 band. I'm glad I decided to look for recent review here on Bratabase! I think I'll be keeping it based on your review! I love the color - it's perfect for my summer tan skin tone and really not bad even now!

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      sounds like a job for - temporary extenders!

    • I just got the blue floral (with gray band) and I cant close it - my other 2 jasmines havent really stretched out at all, so I'm not sure what to do!

    • I envy that your other models haven't stretched out! I think I'm just hard on bra bands. Perhaps the blue floral also runs tight like the caramel. I've gotten the blue Dogtooth and the black and they seem to fit as expected.

    • Idk, its also possible i've gained weight. I think that might be the case. My other two are Black Ricamo and Blue Mosaic

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  5. 4
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    28F

    Fits

    Jasmine and I did not always agree...our love story was one that was developed with time and patience!
    The first time I tried Jasmine, the seam where the top lace is inserted gaped a lot, resulting in a pointy shape, that made me quiver...we weren't meant to be then.
    But alas, luckily for me, with the "orchid print" things changed: the fitting of the 28F was phenomenal, light years away from my unpleasant previous experience!

    Check my full review to know our love story: http://www.myfashioninsiderblog.com/2016/11/lingerie-panache-jasmine-in-orchid.html

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      Thank you!!

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  6. 4
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    34K

    Didn't fit

    This is my boob heaven bra. It's amazing. Seriously.

    1. It's the first bra for as long as I can remember that actually tacks. This is due to the underwires sitting on top of each other because my boobs as good as touch. But with just 1 wire width, the gore tacks in that tiny space between them.
    2. The stretch lace is amazing. Normally I always get the top of the bra to cut into tissue and quadboob, but whatever I do in the Jasmine, it won't quadboob!
    3. The band is firm and supportive, even though it's too large, I should have 32s.
    4. the floral print is so pretty!!!!

    *edit end of June 2013* I've now altered the band down so this bra is now 32KK. It barely rides up anymore so this bra is like the perfect fit on me now.

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    • Seriously this bra really fits you like a halfcup! It's like an unpadded EWA CH bra shape :O It's super interesting!

      Do you also naturally project east and west? It looks like that. I do that and I've become fond of it :) Are your nips also east west when leaned over?

      This bra on you looks super cool! :)

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      I'm in love with this bra! I've already snagged the last 34Ks from Figleaves which arrived yesterday, so I've now got 3 Jasmines Floral/navy in my possession :D
      Wishing the black/multi wasn't sold out everywhere, because I want it too! And of course the red/pink lace one that will launch this June :D

      Anyway, yes I totally project east and west. Fiance says my nips do still point to the sides when leaned over.

      Loving it, wearing it as much as possible! <3

    • I thought the EM PL also tacked on you (and got painful)? I'm surprised at how much deeper it is than both the 36K Jasmine I added and the 34Js. Did you measure while wearing it? I'm wondering if this colourway is more generous than the black one, which would be great news!

    • petalmoon: Yay, this means I'm not alone anymore in the natural east west thing. <3 #happyface

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      ohmyohmy I thought it tacked as good as it got for me when I first got it. Now that I've experienced "true" tacking, I can say for sure that the gore doesn't tack at all on the EM PL.
      I measured while having the bra over my knee, but I always pull a bit on the fabric so it's straightened out and not wrinkling, just like it'd be on my boobs.

      Branarchist yay! <3

    • Thanks, petalmoon! I'll try and get that colourway in a 34K instead of 36K, since it seems much more generous. It would be awesome not to have to alter the band!

    • Oh I also measure cup depth somewhat stretched since it's the most logic way to measure it!

    • Hmmm you mean that if I ever do find the black/multi I'd really need to get it in 34K not the 32K I am going to try with the bravissimo-exlusive soon?

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      I'm not sure as I only have the black print one and have not tried the summer version, but based on the pics, most of the figures entered are for the winter (black print) and if you look at the figures for the 32K, 36K and 34J compared to you 34K, it seems less generous.
      It is common for black bras to be somewhat smaller than other colours (both in the cup and the band).
      That being said, I think I measure more conservatively than you do: on my knee but almost without stretching, because I figure the boob shape, size and firmness will affect how the bra stretches, so I'd rather work with the "gross" figure.

    • Did you stretch this to the max petal moon? I just got this bra in pink and haven't measured it but if it's really 17 cm in depth it's a little depressing because it fits in the cups!

    • Huh? The bra is shown as 41.2cm depth... and how it fits you is the most important, always!
      Only use the measurements to find comparable bras!

    • Sorry, I meant 17 inches! It's easy to get caught up in the numbers.

    • Ah. of course. Well as long as it fits... ;)

    • I've got one other question. Perhaps you have a long torso but don't the 34K wires poke you any?

    • I have no idea if my torso counts as long or short - but there's no poking :D

    • My smallest part of my body is my underbust so that's my waist and it's short. I guess if it's anywhere else that isn't your underbust it's average or long. I'm glad they don't poke you but they do me so I was just trying to figure out why, thanks.

    • Ah, my underbust is the smallest part too. Sometimes at the end of the day there's a little poking, but it's almost unnoticable so I don't really count it.
      Sucks that it does poke you!

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    32FF

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    Jasmine has been recommended to me (very pendulous, very projected, VERY soft tissue, wide/low set, even to FoB - not sure about this one) numerous times. I can definitely see why, it is sturdy enough at the bottom of the cup to give a nice lift and hold up weight. Most importantly, it does all of this while remaining very comfortable. I can barely even feel the wires, they seem to be a great fit, and the gore tacks beautifully. This colourway is amazing, it looks so good! The lace is very soft, and somehow they've made it so it doesn't cut in and give me quadboob at ... the seam (a very common issue for me with stretch lace.. or any lace... or any seams in most bras I've tried so far).

    However, I can't help but feel something about this fit is off. It looks fine in the photos, but when I look down or when I look in the mirror, I feel like it gives me major Madonna bullet bra pointy boobs. It is a problem I've been encountering a lot on this brascapade I've been on. After years of wearing moulded bras that squished my chest, maybe I just need to get used to this look.

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      The Jasmine will give a bullet shape if it's a mismatch to your shape. You don't have to get used to it if you don't like it! If you like Panache, there's a ton of other styles available.

    • So far I have gotten the bullet bra shape (in my perception, maybe it's really not and it just feels that way cause they stick out kind of) in nearly every bra I have tried on. I'm scared that at this point it's probably a 'me' problem than it is a problem with the bras :/ I felt the same with Panache Envy (in nude, if that makes a difference) in 34E, and in Freya Fancies Plunge (34F and 32FF). I'm completely out of ideas anymore...

    • I don't really see the bullet shape too much in the photos, how does it look under a shirt? Sometimes pointy is our natural shape, not all boobs are round.

    • I just uploaded two photos wearing a t-shirt over it.

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      Okay, I see what you are talking about. It looks like you have tall shallow roots, getting the upper part to be rounded is difficult. If you want a more rounded shape, Comexim's 3HC and Ewa Michalak's CHP will give you that shape. The upper portion will probably stay as a slope though, just based on my own experience with those bras.

    • Sadly padded bras don't get along with the girls at all (quad boob galore) no matter if I'm in the right size. If it has a hard edge, it will cut in. Oh well, the search continues.

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      This bra gave me bullet boob too, which I was sad about because it was a beautiful bra that I wanted to love.... I think it's a combination of projection and soft tissue that did it for me. It does look nice on you, but it does give a more naturally pointy shape rather than that super round look. Some people like that look...it's a matter of preference really.

    • Some half cups are unpadded, and you can make any unpadded Comexim into a 3HC. http://bra.pe/MHUp/

      Ewa's half cups are open on top so might cut down on your quadding.

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      Wilderness1 I'm thinking along those lines too. The tissue is just too pliable and it doesn't sort of work with the bra to get that nice round look, just lets the bra completely shape it. At least that's what it felt like in Envy, and it feels like in Jasmine.

    • Wilderness1 I'm thinking along those lines too. The tissue is just too pliable and it doesn't sort of work with the bra to get that nice round look, just lets the bra completely shape it. At least that's what it felt like in Envy, and it feels like in Jasmine.

    • Hold up Sovavosi, they will make whatever I ask of them?

    • Hold up Sovavosi, they will make whatever I ask of them?

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      Also I am not sure why it's posting all my comments twice lol

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      Mostly! You put what you want in the comment box during checkout. Sometimes they won't do the alterations and they won't tell you. I haven't ordered from them in about a year so I don't know if they've gotten any better about this.

    • That is very interesting. I ordered their Comexim Tropical Garden Plunge Bra (191) but unfortunately it was a comically bad fit. The cups felt like they were too close to each other and I had a huge gap around the gore (which actually was tacking perfectly lol) but I was spilling out on the sides.

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      brasaremean I was the exact same boob size as you (though with different body composition, I suspect you are taller and leaner than me whereas I had more chubbiness on a smaller height and build) for a LONG time! But at every size I had this issue, except even more dramatic/obvious, with all of the Panache full cup or balconnet bras. If you like I can describe the issue with me and you can try to consider if this might have some relevance for you. (Also if you dig around in my profile to look at bras no longer owned etc. etc. you will see a lot of the bras that did work for me when I was around 32FF-ish, perhaps that will also give you a frame of reference to compare!) As far as I can tell, for me the incompatibility with Panache is due to the shape and angle of the upper portion of their cups: compared to the natural shape made by my center-full and projected soft boobs when they are supported, the Panache cup design tries to shape the breast into a fairly smooth, continuous, gentle curve from apex to top of breast root. The mismatch with me is double: first, Panache designs assume a lower apex than what my boobs effectively have in a bra, so the upper half ends up rather brutally smashed down (so strange-looking that the first time I tried a Panache, back in the late 1990s, I got a severe fit of giggles in the changing-room!) My boobs, when supported, just do not make that smooth gentle curve--they do not have tall roots so since it's a really projected, compact mass of breast tissue, at the top they curve sharply back towards my body and then it's just "finito"--there is no more breast tissue going upwards; in fact it ends a good 8-10cm below my clavicle, even though I have a super short torso with very little space on it overall. So, as a 32FF I was able to wear SOME of the (non Panache) UK balconnet or full cup styles that also make a closed-off shape at the top, but not many of them because they have to have a very high apex, a generous amount of space on the upper inner quadrant of the breast, and narrow-set straps. Most of the UK bras by 2010 and later had been redesigned (compared to the ones I used to buy in the 90s and early 2000s) to have more wide-spaced straps, to allow open necklines, and to stay on me they needed to be angled in and this created too much slack in the cup and a weird, unnatural shape.

      Anyway this may or may not be relevant. I just thought I would describe the issues in case it can help you find a kind of bra design that would work better! If you do a fitting request with body measurements and so on that may help people give advice too.

    • wendybien Thank you so much for this writeup. You know, now that you mention it and this was something I noticed with Envy especially, when I would pull on the outer part of lace a little bit the shape was noticeably nicer. I'm no seamstress so that was as far as I got with seeing what would actually make the bra work. The top of the cups where they meet straps feels like it needs to be different for me.
      I will check out some of your bras and see what you have working. From what you describe we do have similar issues (body shape aside). I did learn my lesson with Panache here... and while I don't find the wires uncomfortable (quite contrary, they don't bother me at all), I think they may be adding to the overall issue.
      That being said, I didn't keep the Envy, but I am holding onto Jasmine. Just in case someday I need the pointy boob look, I will have one (secretly I'm in love with this colourway).
      I was thinking of making a fitting help request but I need to buy a tape measure first as mine seems to have gone completely missing.

    • I agree with Wilderness1 ... she and I have pretty close shape and size. I also can’t do Jasmine or Envy. My soft tissue just sinks into the cups like pudding. Just filling up whatever space there is, which usually is not all the way up because I lack the tissue on top to fill the rest of the cup properly.

    • Yeah, it seems like it's just a bra/tissue mismatch. Shame, Jasmine is a beautiful bra, I had high hopes.

    • I don't particularly think that this bra looks all pointy and madonna-esque to me, but we all have different opinions on that.
      But what I think you could do to help make it more rounded for youself, you could try lining the cup (top of the cup/lace portion, using light hand stiching you can play with it) with a much firmer fabric and also moving the straps in more towards the center of the breast. I think this would help with a rounded profile.

      I may be completely off with this recommendation, but you may want to look for a very FULL CUP bra that is non-padded, meaning it would literally encase the entire breast with supportive fabric. Similar to my 30DD - Claudette » Paramour Underwire Bra (101015008) . Though you may feel a bit squished in it like I do, especially since you are so very projected.

    • LeProfessor I actually prefer fuller cup bras as I feel like I'm spilling out of anything less. Unfortunately most of them have rigid edges that cut into my tissue but it's something I'm used to. Does Love Claudette no longer exist? I remember ages ago seeing their bras on ASOS and ogling them, but now I can't even find the website.

    • Yes brasaremean Claudette is a defunt brand. Sadly so. They did so well while they were in france, but when they moved to California they started creating very different, very wide & shallow bra's compared to their previous nicely narrow, slightly projected bra's. I've tried almost all of their styles and have maybe 3 more that I need to get my hands on. XD
      I pointed to the paloma I have because generally speaking I also have the problem with full cups rigid edges cutting in, but since the paloma literally wraps around the breast, the cups like settle on the rib/sternum and hold the breast within instead of settling on any breast tissue. Which would technically stop all cutting in. Albeit I still have some in the paloma because the gore is too wide. If the gore were narrow enough the cup edges would rest on sternum instead of breast as the outside of the cup does. I do know this isn't always possible depending upon breast shape and how much surface area the tissue takes up. But I thought it would be worth mentioning and hopefully I am making some shred of sense! XD

    • Yup you're making total sense. I found a cheapo one in 32FF (red one) so we shall see when I get it.

    • Please excuse my dummyness here. I kept saying the "Paloma" bra, but I meant the "Paramour" bra. XD.
      I need to try the Paloma, it's not quite the full coverage of the Paramour and I would not recommend the Paloma for you.

    • Yes I figured it out ;) don't worry. I did order the Paramour so fingers crossed. I also found the fishnet scoop in that beautiful baby blue (I wanted it so bad when it was on ASOS) and got that too even though it doesn't look good for me at all but I couldn't help myself. If anything it looks comfy enough to wear around the house.

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    28F

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    I have this for at least a year but didn't wear it very often so I somehow forgot to review it. But it proved to be really light and comfortable during the last extremely warm summer months.

    The design is unobtrusive but very pretty. I like the transparent lace, the shiny straps and the lack of big colorful bows. The cup fabric reminds me of old wallpapers. But it's blue and I'm a sucker for blue so that's fine.

    Like others have said, the fabric in front is very scratchy on the outside and mildly scratchy on the inside and it doesn't get better with washing. I don't mind that ... but it could be a problem if it's chafing or if you have very sensitive skin. The lace is made of the same soft and stretchy material used on the Panache Andorra and Cleo Kayla and the band consists of a thin breathable mesh.

    The fit is different from my other Cleo / Panache bras that tend to push all my breast tissue to the center. It's supportive but my boobs just keep their natural wide and projected shape. I didn't like this at first but it is a welcome change now that I own so many bra that make a super round shape. Also because my boobs get really achy when I only wear ball shaped bras like my Cleo Meg ( http://bra.pe/XYNg/ ) or Marcie ( http://bra.pe/XYLq/ ) for several days. Maybe they want to express their personality and don't like to be forced into an artificial geometric shape all the time https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />

    The wires have the same narrow shape as in my Panache Andorra ( http://bra.pe/XYit/ ). But they are more flexible, so they fit a bit too wide ending about 1.5 cm behind by breast tissue. But they don't poke me and I even find it more comfortable to have the wires sit in a slightly different spot from time to time. The band fits pretty snug but has enough give to remain comfortable during a 12 hour workday.

    Quality is great: The color is still really intense and nothing has stretched out after at least 15 washes.

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      Very cute on you! I have it in a 32JJ . .. I've sort of outgrown it tho. Hoping my weight will turn around some day here

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      dbmamaz

      I feel you! Still have like 500€ worth of pants hanging around that are just a tiny bit too small. But loosing that last 2kg is so freaking hard.

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      I'm just not able to wear a Jasmine in my shape. I have tried it in multiple sizes and none have worked. I'm fine with the view from the front, but the side view is pointy due to my soft tissue sinking into the deeper cups. Or something.

      But this looks great on you except for the tight band in the back, but I know that it's something that you prefer.

    • I think pointy look usually means you are more FOB and its a very FOT friendly shape. I mean, its a little bullet-like on me, but I liked that in my shape - i wore it esp under big bulky sweaters to give some shape

    • Calluna
      Did you also get the pointy shape in a smaller cup size?

      It's kinda hard to predict the shape of Panache bras and for me it also depends a lot on the size. For example the Andorra makes a nice round shape in a 28F but a 30F looks cone like and a 30E is still a bit pointy because the wires are not pulled wide enough. But looking through all the other pictures makes me think that soft vs firm tissue is also a factor.

    • dbmamaz im only slightly ful on bottom. When I do the leaning over test, my nipples are mostly straight down. They lean towards my face slightly. My 30F Marcie only has a little bit of a gap on my larger side.

      aboobaccount pointy in all sizes of Jasmine. Let me compile all the existing pictures of me in Panache bras.

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      Ok. I apparently didn't get pics of Jasmine in 28F and 28FF or I've already purged them from my phone. I'm sure I had some at some point. In the nude. I'm going to have a second look though. In the meantime, here's everything I have left.

      https://imgur.com/a/7lpiLAI

      Some notes from the various fits:

      The black Envy is from the time I was first fitted into a 28F. I was surprised when I was able to get it on, but it was hella tight and felt like it was going to ping off any time. I had a valley of flesh under the band. I asked for a 30E. It was more comfortable than the 28F, though the fitter insisted that it was not a good fit (technically). I have also tried Envy in 32DD and 32E, neither pictured, but I can go back to add the 32E which I have still, I think.

      Next is Clara. I was pretty happy with the fit in terms of feeling of it though I have a bit of wrinkles at the wire and I spill a little bit in the 30E. I tried a 30FF that day because I was curious about the colour combination. As it was close to fitting, I later went back and tried the 30F. The 30F was the best fit of the 3, but the wrinkles at the wire continued.

      Next up is Jasmine in 32DD. Looks great from the front and angle though not the side. I'm sure that I tried it in 28F and 28FF. I'll see I have a valid imgur link for the fit that included one of them or both. I will look through my phone again as well.

      From my trip to a shop in Vancouver, I have a 30E Olivia and 30F Ardour. I did try a 30F Olivia and I had a better fit, but I must have purged my pics of it. This one was a good fit but the gore was wide and high. I'm not sure if I could do it all day. I tried a Panache Lois but I was not fond of it. I liked Ardour but worried that it was too shallow. It doesn't look like it is, but I kept feeling like it was trying to or going to slip.

      Let me see if I can locate the other Jasmine pics...

    • Here's the 30F Clara and 28FF Jasmine (and a few other bras). None are the 28F Jasmine but it's not significantly different. You can see the Jasmine is pointy no matter how many sizes I try.

    • Added the 32E Envy to the first imgur link.

    • Whoops let's try again on the second link.

      https://m.imgur.com/a/zPoE1

    • Calluna
      That's interesting, thank you.

      Looks like the Envy and the Jasmine are based on the same cut that causes this pointy profile on you and a smaller band size doesn't change that. So I don't know what the fitter meant by suggesting that the 28F would be a better fit technically. Maybe she was just focusing on your snug and tight under bust measurement that indicate this size. But if the 30 band gives you enough lift and support, and it looks like it does, there is no reason to go tighter.

      I only wear a 28F instead of a 30F because it actually gives more support. In most styles the shape is basically the same but in the 28F my breasts litterally don't move at all, which feels more secure when I'm outside or at work.

      The Clara looks very nice in a 30F and the seans one the cups are similar to the ones on the Andorra so it could be worth a try but I'm just guessing. The Fantasie Marianna is very pretty indeed. Too bad they always use these stiff ribbons instead of something flexible. I think the Olivia and the Adour are the best shape wise.

      I also wonder what the Cleo Hettie or Kayla would look like on you. For me the shape is somewhere between the Marcie and the Andorra.

    • aboobaccount yes, the styles are similar. Jasmine is a little shorter and the cups are a little bit different, but very close styles. And what she meant was that the way the 28F fit compared with the 30E, it was the better technical fit. The fitter agreed that the style is not right for me though, regardless of size. There were some things that she pointed out that made her feel that way, but some of the things were debunked, for lack of a better word. And the fitters, more than one felt the same way, also said that it has to be comfortable or I would not wear it. So comfort and technical fits might not be the same.

      Clara is too shallow with the wrinkles at the wire. Shape is still a bit pointy, but not as bad. But under a work shirt it would not be a problem. I’ve told to try Ava plunge and Andorra...but I’m told Andorra is really pointy. However, since I know other styles work better, I feel like I should get what looks and feels best.

      Ardour is nice. I thought that it might be a little bit too shallow but it looks like maybe it’s average projection and possibly doable for shorter periods. Olivia is a good shape but I don’t think that I can manage that gore.

      I have keeping my eyes open for a Kayla and Hettie in a 30E at a good price, but I have other bra priorities for now. Im not sure how my soft tissue will react with them since they are known for being deep and projected and that is part of the problem with Envy and Jasmine. I’m looking at maybe getting an Ewa BM in the next month. Or possibly the Ellace in 30F. I have a few in mind...

    • And yeah...I’m with you on the Fantasie Marianna. I’m curious if a larger size would be a better fit and also if I were to pull the stiff ribbon out if that would do the trick.

    • Calluna
      Looking at your pictures again, I think going up a cup size in the Marianna will leave you with even more empty space on the sides. Probably the cup volume is about right in the size you tried but it just doesn't have enough room in the center and the ribbon amplifies this problem. So IMO pulling it out is not worth the risk unless you can get it super cheap.

      I have similar problem to with the stiff lining below the lace of my Cleo Zia ( http://bra.pe/Ihd7/ ): It doesn't really cut in but sometimes my breasts decide to swell up during the day and it gets uncomfy. So I thought about doing this alteration ( http://bra.pe/Ig53/ ). But I can't find the Zia in my size anymore and it's one of my favorites which makes me afraid of messing it up.

    • Interesting. I didn’t think I had a lot of extra space on the sides of the Marianna, but I am center full, so I do lack outer tissue and have trouble filling out the sides in bras.

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    36D

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    I admit I had high hopes for this baby. I am newly embarking on my "perfect fit" quest, btw. Everyone was hyping it like it was the holy grail of bras for women with a lot of immediate projection, which I have. I purchased the 36D in the "mosaic" colorway (the pattern is kinda pretty but not my first pick), and it was immediately apparent that the 36 band was too big for me, and the cups... I don't know. I THINK they're too small, but it's challenging to pinpoint the issue-- I seem to bust out of it in some places and have issues with excess in ... others. The gore on this was just shy of 3 inches, and a half inch too high for me-- it dug into my sternum. So here's what I was working with: I have boobs that have roots that are wider than they are tall, and are fairly wide-set, slightly splayed, with a couple generous fingers between them. I have obstinately firm breast tissue, a lot of immediate projection, and usually don't fill the bottom bit of bras because the wire gets pushed down by my bossy ladies. I gently bent the underwires into more "swoosh" like shapes (they are pretty u shaped), but they still seemed off-- they chafed like they were too tall, but I felt like I had a lot of under arm muffin-top over the wings in this bra, especially considering the looseness of the band and the height of the wires. The stretch lace is very nice for moving with you and preventing quad boob-- although it made it harder to determine if cup size was an issue. Generally shape it created is ok -- they seemed a bit torpedo-shaped on me, possible due to being too small. One other thing-- the gore was too narrow for me, which I thought might happen based on other reviews by close-set women praising it for being small. The back has three hooks (nice!), and it a bit scratchy in a few spots by the hooks. I was surprised I had to put the straps on the loosest setting to keep them from digging in, as my boobs are pretty high up my torso. I think it my just be the wrong shape for me, so if my shape sounds similar to yours, you may find this one doesn't work out. If you are "between band sizes", definitely size down-- I am: snug:34.75 tight:32.75 loose:37.75 and 36 was too loose for me.
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      Hate ending up with the wrong size. If you post a fit request with more measurements someone might be able to point you toward a better size.

      This and Panache Floris are high on my list since I hear so much good about them.

    • Your Jasmine has 3 hooks? That's really odd because Panache bras in general only have 2 hooks in cup sizes through G.

      Jasmine's straps are very wide set. It's also not the best bra for short roots.

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    MY SHAPE: round, projected, even, close set, on the narrow end of average root width.

    THE TAKEAWAY: Front, center, and on display! Gives something of a retro, pointed silhouette - if you're into it, you'll love it, but this is not the bra for you if you want to minimize your bust line. Forgiving stretch lace is great for even to FoT shapes. Average wire width. If you have very little tissue on the sides, you may experience wrinkling at the side sling. Band runs true to size.

    DETAILS: I'm not new to the Panache Jasmine - it was in my first batch of properly fitting bras back when ... I was in 32DD; a mid-way point between the 36C I'd worn for so long and the snugger, but better fitting, 28F/30E. I've long since needed to retire my 32DD in Black Ricamo, so over the last couple months I've tried various colorways and sizes until I settled on this one as the keeper. Love the rose print! It's sophisticated and sexy. I've always enjoyed the retro, pointed Jasmine silhouette and that remains true today. Fabric is a bit stiff and scratchy out of the box, so the seam between the printed fabric and the stretch lace is pronounced under tight fitting clothes. A few handwashes takes care of that.

    While the bra definitely fits as per Bratabase criteria, I do get a curious bit of vertical wrinkling on the sides at the sling (see side view picture). The wire width is right within my best fitting parameters (5.0-5.2", this is 5.1") so it's not that the wire is too wide and I'm unable to fill out some of the cup. I'm guessing this is an outer fullness issue? Almost all of my tissue is on the front of my chest, so I'm guessing there's not much for the sling to gather and push forward. Anyone have any other thoughts?

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      Well I think we have very similar shapes so I'm going to be nosing around your reviews >>

      The worst side sling issue I've ever had is definitely the Sophia from KHI, but I probably also have some side wrinkling in my own Jasmine :\

    • rainbrasspetals come to think of it, I HAVE had issues with side slings in the past - more specifically, the Fantasie Marianna Side Support Plunge Bra (9202), which basically indented into my breasts. It was a comically bad fit, and I wish I'd taken pictures now!

    • 1

      Beautiful bra! That color on you is fantastic. Did you try a reverse swoop and scoop to push more to the sides? I sometimes do that on some bra types.

    • 1

      Sob!

      Yeah I have a fit request for an Empreinte that flattened me out hilariously on the side with the support sling...

      I also feel like my center fullness has caused a lot of unhappiness with bras that fit okay, but gave me a weird shape I couldn't otherwise explain. I'm sort of desperately looking forward to the Cleo Mimi that will arrive on Friday, and future orders with Impimi after my bank account recovers a little. (Which might be sooner rather than later if more of the other bras I'm waiting on strike out.)

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      wow, thats a gorgeous colorway! hopefully the wrinkling will calm after a couple of washes

    • Gorgeous!

    • roxannelovesbras I gave the reverse scoop 'n' swoop a go, and while that does alleviate some of the wrinkling, it creates a new problem: I can't fill out the top of the cups. Luckily, the wrinkling isn't a deal breaker by any means, so I'm keeping it :)

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