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Bras » Panache » Jasmine Balconnet Bra (6951) » 28F 28:7

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Fits ribcage68.9
B. perimeter24.0
Stretched Band70.0
Band Length56.1
Cup width12.8
Cup depth22.8
Wire length23.5
Cup height14.8
Cup separation2.0
Gore height7.2
Wing height8.8
Strap width1.4
Hooks2

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  1. 4
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    Fits

    Jasmine and I did not always agree...our love story was one that was developed with time and patience!
    The first time I tried Jasmine, the seam where the top lace is inserted gaped a lot, resulting in a pointy shape, that made me quiver...we weren't meant to be then.
    But alas, luckily for me, with the "orchid print" things changed: the fitting of the 28F was phenomenal, light years away from my unpleasant previous experience!

    Check my full review to know our love story: http://www.myfashioninsiderblog.com/2016/11/lingerie-panache-jasmine-in-orchid.html

    Orchid print colorway

    Updated on Nov 06, 2016 Flag this


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      Thank you!!

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  2. 3
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    Didn't fit

    I have heard great things about this bra, but was hesitant to try it as I was exclusively wearing plunges due to my close-set breasts and centre fullness being unable to withstand any higher gores. The gores on Marcie and Hettie were unbearable even though the overall shape of the bra was highly suitable for me. But, since I tried a Comexim Bianca 3HC without a lowered gore, I found that a higher gore isn't that bad. So, I decided to order this bra (along with the Envy).

    The cups are the narrowest I have tried in UK bras and they are deep. The stretch lace accommodates top fullness ... well. Everything was good, except the gore which is unfortunately too high and wide for me. It wasn't too uncomfortable, but the wire marks are on the inside of my breasts instead of at the outline / on my ribcage. So, I decided to overlap and narrow the gore, which I always do for my UK bras. That's where the problems start.

    It seems that I have taken in the gore too much, which somehow changes the fit of the cups, and there are now wrinkles at the bottom of the cup. But, due to unknown reasons (or physics?), the wrinkles disappear when I wear the straps more inwards. I think I might need to buy a J-hook to wear this bra as a racerback to eliminate obvious fit issues. I feel that my centre fullness isn't really accommodated by the closer cups and was bulging out. It seems like I have made the fit worse by altering the bra https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" />

    Now, it seems that I should stick with plunges, although they never really provide enough stability for me with my centre fullness and soft tissues. My breasts were almost always jiggling in plunges, especially those with stretch lace. I will have to accept my fate that nothing will ever fit me perfectly because my breasts are simply too close together.

    Update: I have taken the stitches at the bottom of the gore apart and reinforced the gore without narrowing it too much. The wires returned to its normal position and the cup doesn't have fit issues anymore. Lesson learned it, never take in the bottom of the gore too much or the cup fit will be messed up.

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    Paisley colorway

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    Updated on Nov 15, 2019 Flag this


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      I can’t sew so I have no good advice there re:alterations but I see what you mean in the before pic of you from the front about the gore being too wide. It’s too bad because it looks like great fit in the cups on the side angled pics! I love Jasmine and have it in three different colorways- I’ve never noticed this pattern for sale before it’s very pretty! Hopefully Envy will be better but I really can’t remember if the gore is any narrower since that’s not usually a problem for me unless it’s like suuuuper wide. Which plunges are your fave?

    • Jolie0216 This pattern is called the Paisley I think and I got it from Bravissimo recently. I love it too! I purchased Envy with this but returned it because I prefer the round shape that Jasmine gives, and Jasmine seems to provide more stability without stretch lace in the entire cup. My favourite plunge is Ewa Michalak M cut, although it gives a slightly more pointy shape than I desire, it is narrow and deep with very low gore.

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      Too bad it didn't work out for you... you could always try a Comexim 3HC with a lowered and overlapping gore. It makes the bra fit sort of like a plunge but with vertical cups. I did this with my 65J - Comexim » Natalie Half Cup (491) .

    • Wilderness1 I have a 60HH 3HC with a lowered and overlapping gore, but the EM M cup fits better with more depth.

    • kate166 oh yeah, I can see how the Ms would work for you.

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      Thank you for documenting your bra altering journey. It reminds me how little changes can affect fit so much and how a well-fitting bra can flatter so well!
      Good on you for persevering for a custom fit.

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      I'm also center full but I've nursed 3 babies, making finding bras challenging. I overlapped my cleo hettie gore and that made it bearable, but I have the same problem with higher gores. I desperately want to try Ewa bras but at closer to a 34/34 F/FF depending on the brand I'm not having much luck finding any second hand and I'm scared to order and be out the money :(

    • confused If you are in the US, you may order from Levana which offers returns if the bra doesn't fit. :)

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      I will check them out! I tried a few Comexims from Breakout Bras but wasnt sure since they're marking them UK sizes. I also have a Comexim on the way from Sophisticated Pair but want to try EM so badly!

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  3. 3
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    Fits

    I have this for at least a year but didn't wear it very often so I somehow forgot to review it. But it proved to be really light and comfortable during the last extremely warm summer months.

    The design is unobtrusive but very pretty. I like the transparent lace, the shiny straps and the lack of big colorful bows. The cup fabric reminds me of old wallpapers. But it's blue and I'm a sucker for blue so that's fine.

    Like others have said, the fabric in front is very scratchy on the outside and mildly scratchy on the inside and it doesn't get better with washing. I don't mind that ... but it could be a problem if it's chafing or if you have very sensitive skin. The lace is made of the same soft and stretchy material used on the Panache Andorra and Cleo Kayla and the band consists of a thin breathable mesh.

    The fit is different from my other Cleo / Panache bras that tend to push all my breast tissue to the center. It's supportive but my boobs just keep their natural wide and projected shape. I didn't like this at first but it is a welcome change now that I own so many bra that make a super round shape. Also because my boobs get really achy when I only wear ball shaped bras like my Cleo Meg ( http://bra.pe/XYNg/ ) or Marcie ( http://bra.pe/XYLq/ ) for several days. Maybe they want to express their personality and don't like to be forced into an artificial geometric shape all the time https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />

    The wires have the same narrow shape as in my Panache Andorra ( http://bra.pe/XYit/ ). But they are more flexible, so they fit a bit too wide ending about 1.5 cm behind by breast tissue. But they don't poke me and I even find it more comfortable to have the wires sit in a slightly different spot from time to time. The band fits pretty snug but has enough give to remain comfortable during a 12 hour workday.

    Quality is great: The color is still really intense and nothing has stretched out after at least 15 washes.

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      Very cute on you! I have it in a 32JJ . .. I've sort of outgrown it tho. Hoping my weight will turn around some day here

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      dbmamaz

      I feel you! Still have like 500€ worth of pants hanging around that are just a tiny bit too small. But loosing that last 2kg is so freaking hard.

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      I'm just not able to wear a Jasmine in my shape. I have tried it in multiple sizes and none have worked. I'm fine with the view from the front, but the side view is pointy due to my soft tissue sinking into the deeper cups. Or something.

      But this looks great on you except for the tight band in the back, but I know that it's something that you prefer.

    • I think pointy look usually means you are more FOB and its a very FOT friendly shape. I mean, its a little bullet-like on me, but I liked that in my shape - i wore it esp under big bulky sweaters to give some shape

    • Calluna
      Did you also get the pointy shape in a smaller cup size?

      It's kinda hard to predict the shape of Panache bras and for me it also depends a lot on the size. For example the Andorra makes a nice round shape in a 28F but a 30F looks cone like and a 30E is still a bit pointy because the wires are not pulled wide enough. But looking through all the other pictures makes me think that soft vs firm tissue is also a factor.

    • dbmamaz im only slightly ful on bottom. When I do the leaning over test, my nipples are mostly straight down. They lean towards my face slightly. My 30F Marcie only has a little bit of a gap on my larger side.

      aboobaccount pointy in all sizes of Jasmine. Let me compile all the existing pictures of me in Panache bras.

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      Ok. I apparently didn't get pics of Jasmine in 28F and 28FF or I've already purged them from my phone. I'm sure I had some at some point. In the nude. I'm going to have a second look though. In the meantime, here's everything I have left.

      https://imgur.com/a/7lpiLAI

      Some notes from the various fits:

      The black Envy is from the time I was first fitted into a 28F. I was surprised when I was able to get it on, but it was hella tight and felt like it was going to ping off any time. I had a valley of flesh under the band. I asked for a 30E. It was more comfortable than the 28F, though the fitter insisted that it was not a good fit (technically). I have also tried Envy in 32DD and 32E, neither pictured, but I can go back to add the 32E which I have still, I think.

      Next is Clara. I was pretty happy with the fit in terms of feeling of it though I have a bit of wrinkles at the wire and I spill a little bit in the 30E. I tried a 30FF that day because I was curious about the colour combination. As it was close to fitting, I later went back and tried the 30F. The 30F was the best fit of the 3, but the wrinkles at the wire continued.

      Next up is Jasmine in 32DD. Looks great from the front and angle though not the side. I'm sure that I tried it in 28F and 28FF. I'll see I have a valid imgur link for the fit that included one of them or both. I will look through my phone again as well.

      From my trip to a shop in Vancouver, I have a 30E Olivia and 30F Ardour. I did try a 30F Olivia and I had a better fit, but I must have purged my pics of it. This one was a good fit but the gore was wide and high. I'm not sure if I could do it all day. I tried a Panache Lois but I was not fond of it. I liked Ardour but worried that it was too shallow. It doesn't look like it is, but I kept feeling like it was trying to or going to slip.

      Let me see if I can locate the other Jasmine pics...

    • Here's the 30F Clara and 28FF Jasmine (and a few other bras). None are the 28F Jasmine but it's not significantly different. You can see the Jasmine is pointy no matter how many sizes I try.

    • Added the 32E Envy to the first imgur link.

    • Whoops let's try again on the second link.

      https://m.imgur.com/a/zPoE1

    • Calluna
      That's interesting, thank you.

      Looks like the Envy and the Jasmine are based on the same cut that causes this pointy profile on you and a smaller band size doesn't change that. So I don't know what the fitter meant by suggesting that the 28F would be a better fit technically. Maybe she was just focusing on your snug and tight under bust measurement that indicate this size. But if the 30 band gives you enough lift and support, and it looks like it does, there is no reason to go tighter.

      I only wear a 28F instead of a 30F because it actually gives more support. In most styles the shape is basically the same but in the 28F my breasts litterally don't move at all, which feels more secure when I'm outside or at work.

      The Clara looks very nice in a 30F and the seans one the cups are similar to the ones on the Andorra so it could be worth a try but I'm just guessing. The Fantasie Marianna is very pretty indeed. Too bad they always use these stiff ribbons instead of something flexible. I think the Olivia and the Adour are the best shape wise.

      I also wonder what the Cleo Hettie or Kayla would look like on you. For me the shape is somewhere between the Marcie and the Andorra.

    • aboobaccount yes, the styles are similar. Jasmine is a little shorter and the cups are a little bit different, but very close styles. And what she meant was that the way the 28F fit compared with the 30E, it was the better technical fit. The fitter agreed that the style is not right for me though, regardless of size. There were some things that she pointed out that made her feel that way, but some of the things were debunked, for lack of a better word. And the fitters, more than one felt the same way, also said that it has to be comfortable or I would not wear it. So comfort and technical fits might not be the same.

      Clara is too shallow with the wrinkles at the wire. Shape is still a bit pointy, but not as bad. But under a work shirt it would not be a problem. I’ve told to try Ava plunge and Andorra...but I’m told Andorra is really pointy. However, since I know other styles work better, I feel like I should get what looks and feels best.

      Ardour is nice. I thought that it might be a little bit too shallow but it looks like maybe it’s average projection and possibly doable for shorter periods. Olivia is a good shape but I don’t think that I can manage that gore.

      I have keeping my eyes open for a Kayla and Hettie in a 30E at a good price, but I have other bra priorities for now. Im not sure how my soft tissue will react with them since they are known for being deep and projected and that is part of the problem with Envy and Jasmine. I’m looking at maybe getting an Ewa BM in the next month. Or possibly the Ellace in 30F. I have a few in mind...

    • And yeah...I’m with you on the Fantasie Marianna. I’m curious if a larger size would be a better fit and also if I were to pull the stiff ribbon out if that would do the trick.

    • Calluna
      Looking at your pictures again, I think going up a cup size in the Marianna will leave you with even more empty space on the sides. Probably the cup volume is about right in the size you tried but it just doesn't have enough room in the center and the ribbon amplifies this problem. So IMO pulling it out is not worth the risk unless you can get it super cheap.

      I have similar problem to with the stiff lining below the lace of my Cleo Zia ( http://bra.pe/Ihd7/ ): It doesn't really cut in but sometimes my breasts decide to swell up during the day and it gets uncomfy. So I thought about doing this alteration ( http://bra.pe/Ig53/ ). But I can't find the Zia in my size anymore and it's one of my favorites which makes me afraid of messing it up.

    • Interesting. I didn’t think I had a lot of extra space on the sides of the Marianna, but I am center full, so I do lack outer tissue and have trouble filling out the sides in bras.

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  4. 2
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    Didn't fit

    This is a fairly new bra and seems to be constructed well. My only complaint is that it gives me cone-boob!

    Updated on Mar 19, 2017 Flag this


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      Often FOT-friendly boobs look rather pointy on FOB boobs. But it also very projected, which can look pointy if you are used to foam domes (molded cups)

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      damn - i'm not all here. FOT-friendly BRAS can look pointy on FOB boobs. Its been harder to find the edit button recently?

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      The Jasmine tends to look a bit pointy on anyone who isn't very FoT. I actually like the shape, but if this fits you well and you'd like a rounder profile, you should give the Cleo Marcie or Cleo Hettie a go.

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      I second the recommendation for the Cleo Marcie- that gives me a great naturally rounded shape and some crazy amazing lift. Plus it's super cute and comes in a million colors.

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      Scarl3tt3 This color is gorgeous on you!!

    • Jasmine is a bit pointy on me as well, but not nearly as bad as Tango or Andorra. I think it looks lovely on you. I third the recommendation for Marcie/Lucy Cleo bras for rounded uplift. I'm shallow and they manage to make me look rounded.

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  5. 1
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    Fits

    I've only worn this bra once or twice since I bought it, but I do like it. I bought it at Secrets From Your Sister in Toronto, Ontario because it was on clearance, and therefore 50% off. It has a good firm band; the wires are a touch on the wide side for me, but it doesn't really bother me; the straps are a little wide set, but again it doesn't bother me too much; it gives a pointy shape due to the stiff laminated material of the bottom half (so I'll be wearing this with thicker sweaters or when I'm intentionally going for a pointy look); the ... stretch lace top is comfortable, but probably contributes to the pointy look; it's super projected (so I had to size down one cup); on a scale of 1-10 has a 6 or 7 in immediate projection at the wire (as far as I can tell); and the gore tacks on me, although I can see it being too wide for some people. It's definitely not the cutest bra ever, as I don't normally go for animal prints, but it's usually hidden anyway so whatever.
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    Didn't fit

    I would call this a 'sling' bra - due to the thin material that is used for the cups. See my review for Freya Expression High Apex Bra. It felt like a similar, scratchy material to that.

    Unfortunately this Panache bra made me look like 2 wrinkly small sacks of potatoes! The bra was a brownish 'nude' colour (Nude Caramel from the website). There was just no uplift whatsoever. As soon as I tried it on I felt like the underwires were trying to stab me in the middle of my chest. The band size seemed ok and not too loose or tight. I'd hoped a balconette bra would give a good shape and support but there was no shaping or anything worth keeping this bra for, so I had to return it.

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  7. 0
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    Fits

    Love this bra. Stretchy lace at the top so it fits really well to any shape. I could use a tiny bit more immediate projection above the wires, but it's super comfortable and holds all of my breast tissue so whatever. Doesn't really do much shaping so if you want a perfectly round shape and you have a lot of projected tissue I wouldn't recommend, but if you're just going for comfort this is one of my fave bras.

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  8. 0
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    Didn't fit

    My shape: narrow/average root width, tall roots, projected/very projected, immediate projection, even fullness.

    I'm pretty sure this bra is mistagged - or it comes up markedly smaller than all the other colourways I've ever tried (including lots of black/dark ones). I think it is like a 28E (maybe a large 28E?) on 28F wires. The deep cups fit me well, though I don't have the upper fullness needed to get a rounded shape in this bra. Cups are narrow/average width, and the stretch lace follows my shape well. In it my breasts look super projected, slightly pointed.

    Usually 28Fs/30Es are too big for me, other than shallower halfcup styles ... (which squish me into a cakes on a plate cleavage). I do best in deep/very deep 30DDs. In all other colourways of Jasmine the cups are too deep and too big in a 30E. The fit of this one makes me want to try 30DD and 32D very much.

    The band is too small, I only wear this one with an extender. Even when I was a 28 band I wore an extender with Jasmine - the material is very, very firm. If you don't have much squish, I'd recommend sizing up unless you like a very firm fitting band.

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    Didn't fit

    Again, I'm headed back to try 28Es in Panache, as yet another 28F looks baggy, though I need to investigate whether cup depth and wire width would even be significantly different. If the problem is more about style and scale than size, perhaps I should just move on to other brands/styles. What I realy like about this bra is the pushing in from the sides effect, which I believe comes partly from the strap attaching to a vertical-only outer panel. I also get pretty good immediate projection in this bra compared to the others I've tried. However, I haven't figured out what to do with all the soft ... flesh that's now sitting top and center because the bottom of my breasts is projected up. It spills forward and give me too much center projection, too much pointiness, and a loose/jiggly feeling, and I suspect going a cup size down wouldn't fix the issue. My limited forays into immediate projection all seem to come at the expense of a nice center shape. I only wear unlined bras and strongly anything with even a hint of bullet...
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    28:7 28F

    Too much depth in center of bra, breasts look pointy/coney/jiggly

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    • This bra looks fantastic on you.

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    blue blossom colorway

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