I have a question. Ok, itmight be a pretty stupid one. However....
Best fitting bra today is a 34 F. And I'm east-west.
I'm on my way to try a new take on underwired. Specifically if they can get me even close to this "girls together" shape.
Balcony style with immense side push effect.
What to go for ?
Thanks, have a glorious day !
The "gathering" effect I'll like.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15sT68XIAWrjs7CeusiZBMf2Eifr8YSlp
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For the Curvy Kate Model. Have you ever done it before? What was it? How does it affect your life?
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Oooh! I was interested in it but I am not in the uk and don’t have the ability to travel there that short notice. Go for it! Congrats!
IS this like Star in a bra?
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Hello, all how is everyone? I am closer to the “unicorn” I think. Hope everyone is well. I have scored an elomi Caitlyn nude in 40 FF UK, which is 40 H US, I think. Will upload photos soon. Worn with an extender, because I needed the wide wires that only F cup plus affords in this brand. The ... cups are not full on top, but it is my sleeping bra, to facilitate migration. I saw the process from a user here, on their blog. So far so good I thought the “break” of my breasts was too high, and learned so, after wearing my 44C for a couple of weeks. I began to have pains on the sides, and underneath the wires, where I assume the underwire was resting on glands. There is a noticeable crease in the lower middle of the cup, I hope that the crease will go away as the new break is formed. I again want to thank all members that welcomed me, and helped, as I would not have been able to figure some of these points out on my own.. now, another question for the most learned among us members.... many thanks to MamaPagan for the wire width chart link she sent, but from my research, due to my shape, I may need high wings, and taller underwire. Is there a similar chart to the width chart, for heights of underwires? And would a plunge be s better fit for my shape than a full coverage? I seem to still have some overspill on the sides.
An observation: we went swimming a few days ago, and I had heard that breasts “floated” in water. I didn’t disbelieve it, but I have now experienced it. It was a strange sensation, something that I had not previously experienced, but, super cool, if I do say so myself! An interesting sensation, to say the least. (It was a private pool, so no one was offended, as my girlfriend and I were the only people there). As I get closer to a proper fit, I will pass on what I have learned, and will try to assist any person, who I think will accept my assistance. Again thanks!
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In the database, you can search by size and then sort by wing height which may help.
Here's an example, using the 40FF:
https://www.bratabase.com/browse/by-size/40:8/measurements/?direction=&order_by=wing_height
This only reflects the data entered, so it is far from complete for all brands/bras available but is a starting point to know which brands and styles tend to have higher wings.
Also, looking for bras listed as side support (Fantasie brand has several models like this) will possibly help.
Anyone else have a breast that's a cup-cup and a half bigger than the other? How do you handle it? My right side fits a 32G cup perfectly, while my left side laughs maniacally as it clambers out of the top and side of the cup. It's a little comical, but it's got me in a bit of a mood today. It's a bit frustrating because I just want to wear all the pretty things, but I can't get a decent fit. Heavy sigh.
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*raises hand*
I think is very obvious under a shirt, like when you look at my profile one sticks out more than the other.
On top of that, the wires are a nightmare--one side will always disagree with the wires if theyre right for the other...
But I've learned to live with it.
Dang it 😭 I'm so happy for you that you've come to terms with it. I'm just miserable today. It's probably just a combination of hormones and whatnot, but I'm frustrated because I just want to FEEL great, but I don't, you know? Bras are hard, man. Couple the blatantly obvious size difference with my pendulous tissue, and I'm just about done today haha. Argh!
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Hello all! Sorry it’s been a while, but I couldn’t remember how to log back in! We were able to go to a shop, it seems that the elomi Caitlyn has been discontinued. The replacement cate was what fit my girlfriend well! She went from poor fitted 46 DD, to 42H! She had the sticker shock, and all, and now ... raves about the comfort, although the band is loosening due I think to the start of minor movement.
As for me, my 44C underwire became looser in the band, and the bottoms of the underwire began to hurt where they rested. Seems that glandular tissue sunk down there as a palpitation seems to suggest. Sooo, it looks like not only do I have to migrate tissue from the sides, but underneath as well! So my fit has also changed from 44C to between a 42DD, and 42DDD (us sizes), but I now have a goofy looking flesh crease near the bottom of the cup. I hope it will all “come together” and look natural sooner rather than later.
My girlfriend prefers to go bra less, when possible, and as I told her last night, I don’t see how she can stand to, since I feel much more comfortable when “slung”, lol.
I also don’t want to sound creepy, or perverted in this next statement, but I have always loved and admired breasts, they are just nature’s work of art; no two are identical, no pair are alike. When I was younger, I have thought before, why can’t everyone have them(be careful what you wish for...lol) . In a bra, or less, the way they are is just breathtakingly beautiful. I just can’t put it into words exactly what I am trying to say. I am only embarrassed by what others and society in general have to think about mine, being male and all, but as for personally I love them, and feel very lucky to have been blessed with these gifts, although they can be annoying at times. Thank everyone for your help, and attention!
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Welcome back & thanks for the update on your progress, as well as your girlfriends!
Your comment didn't sound creepy to me. It simply sounded like you were voicing your observations and admiration of the breast form in general, as well as your appreciation of having a pair of your own. No harm in that!
Society can be unforgiving and very judgy about breasts, both on male and female forms. We feel your pain in that all too well.
It finally gets summery where I live to I talked with my best friend about swimwear. My friend has no trouble finding bras anywhere. She only wears only push up bras that make her boobs look bigger in the wrong sizes. I tried my best to educate her but she is happy as it is so I gave up on ... fitting her (for now). She also would never spend more than 10 Euro on a bra…
Anyway I said that I did not feel like bying bikinis because of the hassle of online buying + returning. I already told her a few times that my size is only available online but she said that she received a magazine from a brand and that they sell "big" sizes. I was a bit annoyed and said: no they are not big enough for me, they won't fit me since I need decent support. (they probably go up to F cup) Even at 32J there is still no chance that I can buy bras from a brick and mortar store here, there is a few online retailers that carry Elomi or CK but only bras and no swimwear.
Don't you also feel a bit annoyed and "bad" about yourself if you have to tell someone that?
Also we talked about bikinis and I realized that I feel like I "could wear" a bikini now I'm at a smaller size, Curvy Kate has quite a few options in my size. I kinda feel bad about it, that on one side I fit into their sizes since I lost weight but I still feel much too insecure to actually do it. I also don't like to show too much skin, so I only look for high coverage briefs but high waist briefs kinda don't suit my shape and the lower waist ones are all so skimpy.
I also really don't like the look of bra sized underwired bikini bras on me, because I feel like I show myself in underwear and everyone can see how huge the bras are that I wear and I feel ashamed of that. And all CK bikinis are padded. I usually try to downplay my boobs with clothes but with a bikini it is impossible. I don't know if I'm weird about that? I should just stick with my unpadded tankinis and be happy. But the talk with my friend made me think and I also felt annoyed that even though I went down quite a few bra sizes options are still so limited and my boobs still limit me and I'm still kinda ashamed of my bra size and the talk about it made me feel insecure.
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I don’t think it’s weird. It’s just how you feel about it. Do you feel like others are judging you?
Ummm...I stopped paying attention to other people a long time ago. In my line of work, I have learned that unless prompted for an opinion, most people are caught up in their own insecurities and stresses. They're too busy looking down and in with scrutiny.
I used to try to explain why I couldn't find clothes...long before i had "big" breasts. I am petite so it isn't always easy to find things. It is difficult for most to understand what is is like to be on the outer ends of a spectrum (no matter which end it is).
Buy and wear what makes you feel comfortable.
A woman(or man) wearing clothing that fits and suits his/her size and shape - whether that is size 0/32A or size 20/100M - will be beautiful. It's classy and elegant and very attractive.
P.S. Krisline also makes gorgeous suits (non padded) in your size. I think Ava and Dalia do too. I'm sure @MagdaBras4you could help. Xx
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Hello to All! I’ve got really heavy, large breasts, and while I adore the shape and lift of Comexim, I cannot wear one for more than 90 minutes, as it cuts so painfully into my ribs. Does anyone with heavy breasts have any experience with Ewa bras, generally, and whether they have more supportive underwire than Comexim? For reference, my ... least painful bra is the Freya Idol Seamless Balcony bra (in 32 HH). The Panache underwired sports bra in 32H or HH also feels pretty good, but it’s such a monster of a bra that I’m not wearing it as my daily bra. While losing 8 pounds or so would take me down a cup size, I’m also unsure I can lose any weight, so meanwhile, a non-injuring, marginally attractive bra would be helpful. Thanks!!
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I wear a 60L in Ewa (28:17) and have no issues with dig in unless I slouch all day. I find their SF and BM to be exceptionally comfortable. Their wires are more supportive and sturdier than Comexim for sure. I used to wear Comexim but find them less than ideal and no comparison to Ewa's bras for sure.
Do you have a rib flare by any chance? I get more cutting with Comexim bras than Ewa, but I think it is the lack of immediate projection in the former, plus rib flares. What cut are you looking at? S is shallow on bottom so will have the same result as a Comexim.
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Adventures are few and far between lately. I've been noticing it also DarianaWheeland and I miss reading everyone's ups and downs.
In an effort to make everyone laugh and lead into a story, I figured I'd post a photo of the absolutely stunning bra that I have been wearing since Tuesday night and will have to wear for ... the next 2 weeks.
My God it's ugly.
I am doing well. Don't worry. I had to get my breast lift "adjusted".
History:
My breasts have never been large - (32C/30D) before kids and my right one was always slightly larger and lower.
During pregnancy they enlarged of course and while nursing they were much larger (30DDD) and my right breast was always engorged 2 sizes bigger with milk. It hung low and heavy all the time. I couldn't even wear a nursing bra.
After I stopped nursing and lost the 40lbs I gained, I was left with little eggs in socks and my right breast hung almost 2" lower than the left.
I spent 8 years wearing double padded bras with extra cookies on the left and never wanting to take off my bra.
Back in October I decided to have surgery to correct my very uneven and deflated breasts: I had a masoplexy (breast lift) on my right side and augmentation on both sides with 450cc silicone gel implants. I went from a padded 30C to an unpadded 30FF/65G.
Best thing ever. Halleluyah!!!
However, as the human body is not an object, how it reacts and changes can not always be predicted. My Dr. decided it would be better to have to lift my right one again, another little bit if it settled too deep, rather than lifting it too high on the first try.
So, 5 months after the initial operation, my right breast was still heavier and lower than my left, with a vertical scar that had not healed properly, so we decided to take another shot at it and do a revision surgery.
Consequently, here I am. Deep in ugly post-surgical bra land for 2-3 weeks. Then it's wireless time for 2-3 weeks. I have a Panache Andora Wirefree from the last time and I ordered Ava Libby too (review to come).
I'm posting photos so you can admire my bra (LMFAO), see what marvels surgery can accomplish as well as to show the process.
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http://imgur.com/a/rDh0uLv
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Thanks for sharing. Heal quickly.
You still make it look gorgeous though! 💋
It looks comfortable too!
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Hello, all how is everyone? I hope all are as well as possible. I guess I’ll start out by saying that I am a straight male, and am here due to pain and discomfort when doing daily activities when unsupported, as I have moderate plus Gynecomastia. It is embarrassing in public, not because breasts are bad, but only because of ... having body parts that don’t fit with normal. And although I am overweight, I always had very small “man boobs” that were never a bother, or sensitive at all. About 2 years ago, I noticed that my chest had a dull ache under the nipples, and sometimes the pain would be quite high! But during this time I was about 50 pounds heavier, so the size never really increased. It was only when I was losing that they became more pronounced, and I noticed increased awareness, and sensitivity, that I thought something was not quite right. So when I was explaining to my very long term girlfriend, who is a nurse, she examined and her evaluation is real glandular tissue, and the projection appears to be in the smaller cup ranges for my band size. It was only when I reasearched and found the pain under my arms was probably migrated breasts, that I tried on one of her very tired, stretched cacique cotton underwire unlined bras in 46DD, did find the gore was flat (didn’t come close to filling the cup) but had pain in the underarm area. After “scooping” forward, the pains were gone, but the cup width, not depth, was filled. So we went shopping and I have 2 same models, both in 44, one in a C, and one in a D cup. Neither of them has an underwire wide enough for max comfort, but, both alleviate the major discomfort of uncontrolled movement, and bouncing when working, and driving a heavy haul truck. Sorry, for the long post, I just wanted all of the members to feel like I am not here for nefarious purposes, but actually for some assistance. I have tried to take some bra pictures, but they are no good, and will ask for her to take some for me tonight. I am here to seek a bra, that works, and if possible to redistribute the tissues that is in my underarms to the front, so when riding, sitting, or anything, it isn’t painfull to have my arms at my side for too long, and get minimal projection (when out or working, projection doesn’t matter at home), and not be too hot, or frilly. Now as I said home use doesn’t matter. Thank you all for your consideration, and help in advance.
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Since you're a guy, I'd recommend checking out A Bra That Fits' size calculator. It has an option where you can indicate that you were assigned male at birth, and it should give you a decent starting point with what size to look for. https://www.abrathatfits.org/calculator.php You just need a soft tape measure (or a hard tape measure and some string to compare it to).
I did that, and their calculator, we now, after measuring, and trial and error find that instead of 50B (actual measurement) which was way too loose, that the band of 44 seems just right, the cups need to be fine tuned, when the photos of fit when posted should show what I maybe can’t explain? Could it be the migrated tissue to the sides cause the too large number? Not to seem ungrateful, though thank you for taking the time to suggest.
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How many recommendations do y’all get when you recalculate them based on new measurements? (I haven’t been on here for very long, so I only have one bra recorded that fits.) I usually get at least 6 or 7, but today I got 2! Probably because my rib cage seems to have shrunk since the last time I measured (I am sure I took my measurements correctly)
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With a tight and comfy rib measurement of below 24 & 26", you have limited options of true fit bands since few brands make a 26 band.
Add to that the few bras entered with measurements in the 28 and below range, there isn't much data available for the system to retrieve probable matches. 😖
I only get 1 or 2 recs myself for the same reason.....
I get recommendations for bras I already have, because there are so few entered in for my range. I think the tool might work better for those that are in that pink coloured area on the heat map here: https://www.bratabase.com/browse/by-size/
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So, I've decided to go on a bit of a weight loss journey. I was unhappy with my body post babies, and I decided to try and lose 20 lbs. I'm happy to announce that I'm down 9lbs! My breasts haven't shrank any (rats hahaha) but my ribcage has a bit, which I found a little interesting. I've been kind of MIA on here as of late, so I figured I'd let people know what's going on if anyone was curious. 😙
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Congratulations!!
Nice! It feels good to get feeling healthier post babies.
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(is the title allowed? if not, let me know.)
when you already have a bra that ALMOST fits and is quite comfortable and then you gain weight and boobs are spilling out of the cups.
bra wasted, money wasted.
i have been gaining weight and i have no idea why. it's gradual. but seems uncontrollable.
sorry. but this is just so frustrating. my flat-chested friends wouldn't understand. *sighs heavily*
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I'm with you. I spent a couple hundred on Ewa bras mid last year then gained 10 lbs. Those bras no longer fit and neither did any of my other ones.
With all the talk about that decluttering show, someone mentioned bras - and i'm like, i have one drawer of bras that fit, and one of bras that dont fit ... because i keep hoping i'll lose weight and fit back in to those 'tiny' 32Js lol
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I used to think I was high-set but maybe I'm more average? Idk, I swear the base of my root is a little further down that is used to be *shrugs* oh well..
Question though..I've honestly been trying to figure this out but where do you draw the line between tall vs average vs short when it comes to roots? (I've read the reddit posts but I'm still no closer to figuring it out)
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Short roots look like a lower case b when supported in a bra. They often get a gap at the strap of a bra.
The way I see it, it's easiest to determine short/average/tall roots based on bra fit rather than in an abstract fashion. Do most bras in your size tend to poke in the arm and have too tall wires and gores? Or there's usually empty space at the top of the cup/ the part where the cup meets the strap? Then most likely it's short roots. Do most bras, even when they seem to fit otherwise, tend to cut in the upper tissue or there's often tissue escaping from the wing? That can be tall roots. If neither is the case, then it could be average height roots :-)
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I don’t get it...I’m barely a week into my cycle and my boobs are still sore (and my nipples are sensitive), though they’ve gone back down in size a little bit. This is when they are supposed to lighten up and play nice again, only they’re not! I usually get a bit of nipple sensitivity just before ovulation and then there’s the soreness. This so not fair. Am I having some mid 40s growth spurt not related to the recent weight gain?
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Are you on bcp? Or any other form of birth control?
I did read that hormones get all crazy during perimenopause. People can grow or shrink.
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6 months ago I joined gym and started to eat healthier. Between May and September I've lost 8kg (which im very proud of). My excercise mainly involved fast walking on a treadmill (can't run, my lungs are too weak), crosstrainer, chest press, pull down machines, few mins of using dumbbells and 3-4kg ball exercises.
Of ... course I lost bit of my tummy, underbust and ass but what's making me to question, why my boobs got bigger?! When I put on weight my boobs hardly get anything, it goes mainly to stomach and bum, so obviously when I loose weight boobs don't get smaller but ffs is weird that they did grow. 70% of my bras are too small, 20% are borderline small and 10% were to big and now theyre perfect.
Would the chest press and pulldown machines build a muscle under my boobs that makes them bigger or what? Is it the fact im using panache sport bras in band 30? so the sides of my underbust get squeezed and migrated (again?!)??
Beside that it is nice to see bigger boobs but at the same time, my bra collection is too large to exchange it all
Any thoughts? Anyone had similar situation? all help is kindly appreciated <3
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It could be the muscles developing, or it could be something else. When I lose weight, I never ever get smaller in the bust either. So maybe your bust didn't change, but your underbust did which would automatically result in larger boobs to frame ratio thing... smaller UB + same B = larger cup.
On a different note, my boobs started growing when I was 13, and they are still growing today, at 32. Just getting bigger, never smaller, no matter the weight (at 172-3cm I've been unhealthy skinny at 57kg and I've been unhealthy overweight at 83kg). Boobs were always growing.
@martka00 When I went Vegan, I lost like 30 pounds, but my breasts grew. I went from a 32G (for 10+ years solid) to now 28KK/L. I swear it's the soy for me, but a lot of things can trigger our hormones to go into production mode.
At least you had a few bras that were too big before that now fit, so you're not braless with a backache. That's one of those joys of having "buffer zone" bras in your arsenal. Always prepared for changes!!!
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I survived my first mammogram today! Now the wait for results begins...... :-/
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I've never had one before but I'm the age that I should. I'm going to mention it when I'm in for my next pap which is going to be soon. Probably next month. I have to call to make an appointment.
I put it off for a long time, but I'm now 45 so I thought I'd give in since my Doc ordered it anyway.....
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I’m curious - is there anyone else who just feels like their boobs are just not that big? I am objectively busty, (28K UK) but weirdly don’t feel huge? I always see Gosia (EM model) and think how busty she looks, but then realize that she is smaller than me? I’m always so weirded out by that fact. Anyone else?
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Yep. Every-single-day. Mirror body image really messes with media induced mental ideas of what "busty" really is.
MamaPagan Off-topic: Do you find EM’s Bm styles supportive? I’m considering ordering La Gloria (although running large in the band is huge turn off) and Kleks, but worried that the cup will collapse under my dense, but not self supporting, tissue.
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I've had a backache since tuesday. this is not common for me. I tell you, thats the only thing that sometimes makes me want a reduction. So many women with much smaller breasts than mine say they've gotten reductions for back pain. Instead I'm just trying to get back in to exercising to strengthen the back muscles, but . . owww
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ooh, a rice sock (heated in the microwave) between me and my chair back seems awesome atm!
I have had some shoulder pain recently too and felt the same way. Loosening my straps helped, so maybe that’s something you could try
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As i start to wear bigger cup sizes i feel like my boobs look more like parcels of air - not as soft and bouncy as before
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Everyone wants something different from a bra! Some people want the entire top half of their breasts exposed above the bra so they can wear low-cut tops and have tons of cleavage. Some people dont want any hint of any jiggle ever.
You might want to experiment with different cuts or different brands. For example, Panache bras are much more firm (firmer band, firmer wires, less give, generally, in the cloth). Freya has softer wires. Bras which have the top half made of stretch lace might give more bounce at least on the top.
But esp in the larger sizes, most of us want support so our boobs arent hitting us in the face when we dash across the street!
Oh, also padded bras vs unpadded - very different feel
I've started to buy bras in band 34 but alter them to a 28/30 . My boobs are pretty small too, they don't really bounce all around when i run etc. No one would be like oh damn her tits are huge. But a 34C (@sorella @sloggi @triumph) altered to be about a 28DDD/28E is too small for me such ... that there would be gaping. I guess i should start buying larger sizes? But i feel like i may be thinking my boobs are bigger than they actually are. I kinda panic when girl friends ask me what my bra size is because im afraid they'll think im overestimating myself or whatever.
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thats a common problem - people have these ideas about what bra sizes mean. but what you need to do is buy bras that fit you and not worry about what other ppl think. There si a project somehwere w pictures of women of various sizes so you can see what they really are, hopefully someone will come along w the link
Actually just doing a Browse-Search by Size here on Bratabase will give you a real idea of what sizes are. :-) Search by 28:4, 30:4, 32:4 etc and you will see how real women look in the standard "D" cup and how it varies.
The biggest issue is everyone has this "idea" of what a cup size equals to and it is incorrectly independent of the band size. You say "I'm a 30D" and all they hear is D cup and get this image of a boxom woman with these large round breasts without realizing there is a big difference between a 28D-30D-32D-34D-36D-38D etc and so on. In reality there is a 5 cup difference in volume between a 28D and a 38D. Reality is that a 28D cup has the same volume as a 30C, 32B, 34A, 36AA, & 38AAA.
Add to it the delusions of women wearing a totally incorrect bra size due to wrong sizing methods and denial and you often have women who should be a 28:8 (28FF/28H) wearing a 36:4 (36D) simply because they don't know anything below a 32 or above DD exists. Let's not forget to add those who stuff themselves into say a 34C when they should be like a 32FF simply because they think of their breasts being too small to be a anything larger than a C cup. It's all due to media portrayed ideas and misinformation.
Believe me when I say that your doubts and fears are shared by many women of all sizes.
While it is difficult to not care what other people think, it is easy to just tell them it's none of their business. It is also easy to show them proper sizing methods and introduce them to Bratabase as well! If they have misconceptions of sizing, you could help them to understand the correct way, so they stop judging and get sized correctly themselves.
Even at my size I get called a liar and get those "looks" that say the same. I tend to avoid telling people my size unless I have the time to school them on proper bra fitting techniques, sister sizing, and overwhelming them with dozens of links to sites that back what I'm saying or prove I'm not wrong.
You are not wrong and you should buy bras that fit you both in band and cup. Please don't let other's misconceptions make you buy ill-fitting bras. You deserve a proper fitting bra!
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If you want cleavage, there’s two kinds: butt crack/bum crack and cakes on a plate (Marie Antoinette style). It sounds like, from the picture that you shared, that you are after the first kind I mentioned. Plunge bras will be better with side pushing in. The sides are taller; the wires are sort of tilted (lower in the middle and higher in the wings. Panache Ana/Ava is a nice plunge with stretch lace on top, and still a little bit of a natural shape. Although it did not work for me, Curvy Kate Lifestyle is generally considered a good simple plunge. In padded, Freya Deco is quite the famous bra for knock cleavage, with Cleo Koko similar but not as hard and stiff moulding like the Deco. In Polish brands, Comexim and Ewa Michalak have good padded plunge bras, with the latter having optional cookies for enhancing the shape/fit. I’m not sure how any of these would work on wise set breasts, which I imagine you have (but I might be wrong).
Something like this may work as well, if you're not pleased with the gathering powers of the bra alone (;
https://www.fruugo.co.uk/push-up-magic-bra-shaper-shapewear-vest-bust-up-borst-ondersteuning-sexy-beha/p-14941285-32172833?language=nl&showOriginalDescription=true
Can't seem to find many online, but in Asian clothing stores (Malaysia, Thailand) I've seen sooo many of these! Most of them are 'vest-type' garments, bigger / longer than this one, almost corset-like - to be worn over a bra. They are meant to really push the breasts together.
Good luck!
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