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Weird in between sizes...

Does this happen to you, that when you fluctuate a bit in weight (I don't mean like going up or down full cup or band sizes) that your bras that used to fit 2-3 weeks ago suddenly don't do their job?
Its so odd recently almost every bra I put on is different. I quad out of my beloved 32K ... Lacey bras. Bravissimo Arla which used to hurt me really bad now does okay with an expender. 30K Freya bra fits size wise but boy is it a weak bra overall. Some Elomis fit me again but the bands feel unsupportive when on other bras the bands suddenly feel so tight I need an extender! When I tried a 34K bra it felt too loose when some 32Ks felt too tight however one Freya fits me well in 30K - makes no sense at all! My sports bra which was fine suddenly hurt me so bad I had to rip it off and lie down without a bra to recover.
Okay this could be just inconsitent sizing - but many of these bras worked fine a few weeks ago, now I'm getting neck pain from lack of support or wire pain - where I need to rip off the bra as soon as possible!
I try to loose weight currently but it doesn't work at all. My body does rebell against it and even does the opposite
Maybe I need to order some new bras and my old ones that are not supportive are just worn out.
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- It depends, I think my boobs are filling out more on top, but i'm not really growing wider, lol.
  Plus, when I gain weight, it's going mostly to my butt and my tummy. I know I gain weight in my boobs too, but not as dramatically, I guess.
  I should be going up cup sizes, but I'm still wearing the same size in my Comexim padded plunges - I wonder if I just had stretched them out, or they just contain all the extra boobage somehow, lol.
  Cause when I did all my measurements, the last I lost weight, I mostly lost weight in my butt & tummy.
- I have fluctuations caused by inflammation from food allergies/sensitivities, salt intake and other things. It can be enough to make my well fitting bras feel like torture devices on a bad day. Also another thing for me is, I’m in my 40’s. And I think I’m premenopausal, so my body fat distribution is changing, also causing some fit issues here n there. If your bra’s aren’t working for your body now, definitely invest in at least one well fitting bra to get you by.
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Still a bit confused about my shape, could someone provide some insight?

Currently have a CK Lifestyle plunge in 32J on the way after trying the flutterby in 32HH and it ending up being a size too small. Fit wise it was basically perfect minus the quadding. What should this tell me about my shape?

I've tried

Panache envy 32J: I could fill the bottom of the cups okay but the stretch lace was ... puckering, cups were ridiculously high

Panache Clara 34HH : fit was basically perfect even though the wires were slightly wide, gore not tacking, breast tissue escaping

Panache Andorra Unlined 32HH: cups were too small, breast tissue escaping

CK Delightful 32HH: Slight quadding, cups came up very high, could have had a tad more projection, gore not tacking,breast tissue escaping

Comexim Unlined 3HC 32O: wires were way too narrow and painful, too much fabric in the upper section, tissue escaping

Elomi Meredith 32J: projection was okay, cups were too high and ridiculously wide, tissue escaping
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- What I'm hearing from this alone is that you're probably wide rooted, short rooted, and full on bottom. That sounds to me like you're pretty shallow for your size range--it makes sense that you'd like a plunge, they tend to be on the shallow side.
  
  From here, I'd suggest looking for plunges and also padded bras if you think you'd like them. I think you'll continue to like CK if you stay away from their full cup styles.
  
  Also, a lot of people don't tend to have static cup sizes. I do wonder what you would have thought of some of these other bras if you'd gotten them in a different size--for instance, maybe the Envy in 32HH, which at least in my size range (somewhat close to 32HH) has a pretty wide cup structure (although you still might find it tall--I'm short rooted too but get away with it because I'm projected and that pushes my breasts up and out of the shallower bottom of the cup).
  
  EDIT to add on: if you like a bra, check out its measurements on bratabase and see which bras users have entered similar measurements for too! You'll probably end up with certain measurements you pay closer attention to than others--for you that might be cup height etc
- @bustyand that would make sense, it seems like when I try to correct one fit issue, others pop up. I do have to say though that I prefer plunges because my tissue is pretty close set,and apparently I also carry a lot of it towards the center (I'm also pretty freaking short), so short that I get issues with Demi's, Balconies, with half cups being the literal devil for me lol. I did try a range of sizes with CK Delightful and Wonderful and found it to be a shape issue because a size down would definitely be too small, next size would still fit weird, then a size up would be too big. I have tried padded bras before and there's not enough space for me near the wires so they end up either folding over or the cup basically collapses on the bottom, they end up sliding a couple inches below my IMF, and I run into the same issue of my tissue slipping out albeit more rapidly lol. Until now I've basically just described my shape as an actual nightmare because I can never seem to get something that fits without other issues arising that points to a different shape/fullness/width and then it basically ends up being a Schroedinger's...breast?? Lol. I did notice that when I'm wearing a bra and am actually supported my tissue does this weird thing where instead of D it's more of a b when supported, as in I can tell the front half of my breast is a bit wider than the rest. I don't really know how big of a factor that would play though.
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A RANT: Projected breasts with average/slightly wide roots

So far the closest fit that I have gotten was the Panache Clara in 34HH, still didn't have the right amount of immediate projection, but the upper lace wasn't that forgiving so it worked until...it stretched out. At this point I'm pretty sure I am definitely FOB with a lot of immediate projection. I'm pretty sure I have average to ... slightly wide roots but I tried the Comexim tara in 32K anyways. The upper lace section was too open on top, the cups had the right depth, but now the wires were unbearable on the sides. Like resting on breast tissue unbearable, the cups were actually low and they weren't in my armpits but I had to rip the bra off within a few minutes. Anyways, I'll be trying elomi Meredith next. At this point I'm basically spit balling because it's as if immediately projected breasts that aren't narrow are unheard of. Even if I request bra recommendations specifically for immediate projection/average to slightly wide roots I get recommended polish. No matter if I say my breast roots are NOT narrow I still get told I have narrow roots and to try polish bras, only to try polish bras and the wires aren't fully containing my breast tissue/are painful.
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- Hopefully the Elomi Meredith works out for you, fingers crossed ; )
- Maybe this helps, When you go to any particular bra size, like Panache Clara Full Cup Bra (7255) 34HH
  https://www.bratabase.com/browse/panache/clara-full-cup-7255/34HH/
  
  You can then click the "Explore" button that's below the sizes table under the picture and you'll have a set of controls to search for bras while changing only one of the measurements.
  
  On this example, I've increased the cup's depth 2 stops, but kept the rest of measurements the same.
  
  https://www.bratabase.com/browse/panache/clara-full-cup-7255/34HH/explore/?bust_perimeter_step=0&band_length_step=0&stretched_band_length_step=0&cup_depth_step=2&cup_width_step=0&wire_length_step=0
  
  From this, it looks like Elomi 34HH may keep the same cup width but have deeper cups.
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So much breast tissue in my armpits

My overall build and shape, with so much of my breast tissue in my armpits and slightly tuberous breasts, has gotten me feeling frustrated and a little down on myself lately.

I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. I'm not a doctor, but I'm convinced that the reason that my breasts are tuberous and sag is due to the natural laxity of my ... skin. A majority of my breast tissue is along the sides of my ribcage, near each underarm. I always wonder if the tendency towards hypermobility also affects the distribution of my breast tissue. 30DD, 30E, 30D, 32D, 32DD...something will fit but it will be uncomfortable, or something will be comfortable but not fit correctly. It's so hard to find both.

People can say such insensitive, flippant things - whether it was my friend who said "it must suck to have small breasts" and there's "no f-ing way that I'm a DD" or the nurse after my shoulder surgery telling me that people like me don't need to worry about wearing a bra. I try to be body-positive and thankful for all of the things my body does for me everyday, but it's so hard when trying to laugh off these types of comments and dealing with a chronic illness.
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- Hmm, so it sounds like you need really wide wires?
  
  and/or would it just work better to wear more of a lounge bra? something like this https://www.bratabase.com/browse/sugar-candy/crush-bralette/
  
  I saw this meme yesterday, I can totally relate (okay, not maybe totally similar to your situation) but it's like we always want what we can't have. https://www.instagram.com/p/CQRIPBQlYRi/
- BraOdyssey Yeah, I think I need suuuper-wide wires.
  
  Ugh, so I don't know if it's due to my medical conditions or what, but I almost always have the "headlights" look. It seems to show through sports bras, bralettes, and some very thinly lined regular bras. This whole area of my body is such a situation, I swear!
  
  Oh wow, I can definitely relate to that meme...thank you for sharing it and for replying!
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Covid & weight gain

Most of people that i know got weight gain. So did I. How about you? Is it still same? Or bit changed? How do you keep your body fit?

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- I’d gained quite a bit over 2020, about 15-20 pounds. But so far for 2021 I’ve lost most of it, and working on getting back to my pre-second child body. I do 4 mile walks a few times a week and I lift weights five days a week. I do a full body dumbbell workout in the comfort of my home utilizing free videos on YouTube. Since it’s getting hot where I live now, I’m about to purchase a compact exercise bike. I also count calories/nutrition using MyFitnessPal.
- Beyond that first “two weeks to flatten the curve,” my habits didn’t really change much. I was definitely less active and gained weight last year, but only because I had a five-year-old and a two-year-old and was pregnant with my third.
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Jul 02, 2021

Another month, another cup size bigger. I measured my boobs on a whim and found that they have grown half an inch, and so I am a 32K now.

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- Haha i was about to give sympathy until I saw your name - for me, when I hit 32K I was miserable because it was juts part of getting fatter! I'm finally losing weight and cant wait to get back to a J. But you go girl!
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Jun 16, 2021

How do I make my low projection F cups look their size? I usually downplay my assets for work. But I would love to see what it would look like if I accentuate their size. What style bra/design would help? Minimizer bras fit best. Also, no padding.

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- As for bra styles that accentuate breast size, in general I'd suggest a plunge for 'traditional' cleavage.
  
  Depending on your breast shape, a balcony bra may also give some 'cakes on a plate' effect, thus enhancing their presence.
  
  Oh and by 'no padding', do you mean actual *padding*, like those bras with a sloping cushioned area on the inside, or any bras that are molded (foam lined, but unpadded) as well?
  
  I've also heard of people using something like this, either worn over a well fitting bra or as a stand-alone option:
  https://venturi-store.myshopify.com/products/women-sexy-lingerie-lace-solid-color-cross-side-buckle-wireless-push-up-sports-underwear-breathable-sleep-bra-new?utm_source=show-recent-order&utm_medium=notification
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Jun 10, 2021

Should I be concerned about my rapid breast growth? I take it as a positive thing, however I went from having no boobs to being a 32JJ in 13 months. Even if they're shallow this is still a huge size. I can tell that they're not done growing yet as well. Trans breast growth can take 2-5 years to finish ... developing so I have a lot of time left, although the growth could slow down. I've noticed that a lot of weight I put on goes straight to my boobs, and they can grow a cup size a month. For perspective, 6 months ago I was wearing a 32F.
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- A doctor is probably gonna be the only one that can answer that question for you. I believe I saw a post from you before talking about breast implants. In which case it would be extra important to have a doctor to check it because leaky implants can be a health hazard.
  
  A cup a month on itself doesn’t have to be an issue. I have heard of a lot of women gaining 1-2 cup sizes per month as a reaction to extra estrogen wether natural like from a pregnancy or from pills containing them. I don’t see why there would be difference in reaction between cis and trans women.
- @lunamoon Yes, I plan on getting implants once they're done developing so I can improve my shape etc. I'll be going with saline, so it leaks there shouldn't be any issues since my body will absorb it.
  
  I was thinking that I have been growing around a cup size a month consistently since last May. I know that everyone develops differently, but because of my shallow shape I often underestimate the fact that in reality I'm up there in terms of my cup size, and I have so much trouble finding a bra. 3 more cup sizes and I won't even be able to find a bra in Bravissimo.
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Teen Wants Comfortable, Breathable Binder

A binder may help my child feel better. Recommendations?

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- now you admit to us that you're old enough to have a teenager, /s.
- Well, that kind of depends on how big their boobs are. After a certain size, in my experience, you're just gonna have kind of a rough time period. For smaller boobs certain sport bras might even work. I've tried gc2b--the fabric itself is okay, huge arm holes, set sizing that didn't exactly make sense for my body--and Shapeshifters--great because they're custom sized, take a bit to get to you, their standard fabric is pretty breathable but they do put in a binding panel if your boobs are a certain amount bigger than your waist, which isn't very breathable. See me (30H/28HHish) in my Shapeshifters binder here: https://www.bratabase.com/adventures/entry/19562/
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Jun 08, 2021

Society tends to shame, stigmatize and sexualize women with big boobs, so there are times as a professional bra fitter when I play the part of a counsellor, and tell these women who sometimes hate their breasts that actually, their breasts are amazing and they don't need to be ashamed with them.

Part of the blame lies in poor fitting bras, ... so society creates the assumption that big boobs automatically comes with pain, when ironically even small breasted women are likely wearing the wrong bra. A well-fitting bra can do SO MUCH to the appearance and comfort of having a pair of large breasts.

Even before having breasts of my own I wished that society stopped perpetuating the idea that having big breasts is abnormal, and now being very busty myself at a 32J I can be in a position to try and help women feel better and more confident about their bodies. Having large breasts may not be the norm, but being busty does not mean that you can't be beautiful, or your body is something that you should be ashamed of.
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Didn't measure myself correctly

I had gotten a 28E Princess balcony bra from CK as my first "my correct size" bra. (I'll come back to this)

I didn't measure myself correctly. I used to measure my bust by taking the tape higher at the back, I read somewhere that you should measure across the shoulder blades. This increased my bust measurements, obviously. I did the ... same for my underbust.

I ended up with 35 standing, 36 leaning, 28 snug UB. I thought my size was 28E/F. I compared myself to the other pictures of the same size here, didn't look like mine, except a few.

I felt good about having that size. All my life, I got comments on my smaller boobs a lot, I thought having a bigger size might just magically make them bigger in a bigger bra. Like they'd magically fill them in. I went with the "smaller* size suggestion, 28E and got the Princess balcony bra from Curvy Kate. I didn't know it runs a size larger, I didn't bother checking the measurements or anything, I was just so excited to get a bra in my "correct size".

It didn't fit, absolute shape mismatch. Gaping all over the top, wires too wide. I scooped and swooped all I could, didn't fill it in. I did eventually make the bra work for me (another story for another time).

I measured myself as correctly as I could again, turns out I'm a 26E/F or 28DD/E, depending on how snug I want it. 33.6 standing 34.6 leaning, 26/27 UB.

I put this under body and body issues because I thought trying to get bigger measurements and a bigger bra would make my boobs bigger somehow. Lesson learnt. I've embraced my breasts more and more since I've found the calculator, subreddit and this. I now wear 28D unlined for CK (I have conical breasts with short roots so, needed to size down a bit) and that's okay. My boobs won't get bigger or smaller depending on what size bra I wear.

Thank you for reading my rant.
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Sizing Up Woes

Ugh, when does it stop? I feel like I’ve maxed out of 90% of my bras, and for some reason I’m not able to find any new Kris Line bras in a bigger size lately from my normal places. Resorting to trying other UK brand bras (including Bravissimo, which I’ve never tried before), so I’ll have a ton of reviews ... on the way in the next week or so.

My 34K Kris Line bras are at least 1 if not 2 sizes too small at this point, which would put me at a 34KK-L. I’m guessing that’s about a 34JJ-K in UK sizes, maybe? I’m just really annoyed that they don’t seem to be getting any smaller, granted I’ve probably gained weight lately AND I recently stopped taking hormonal BC, so I have no idea if that would cause them to grow or shrink (I wish it made them shrink, but it’s not looking that way.)

Anyway, just a rant. Can anyone related?
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- well, I guess I kind of lost some weight, then gained some weight back. Because it's summer, I'm hoping to lose some more weight...It's cyclical. Not what you asked, but I think every woman should own about 20 bras BECAUSE OF weight fluctuations.
  
  And I don't think that's so extreme. 3-4 at a higher weight. Like, to always have a buffer of some bras at higher and lower weights.
- BraOdyssey I guess that’s true, they are prone to fluctuating. I’m guessing because I’m so hyper-aware now being involved in Bratabase and ABTF that I notice it a lot more than I used to!
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Jun 04, 2021

I'm planning on getting XXL breast implants next year, but I don't know whether to go for silicone or saline. Silicone will feel more natural up to 1050cc, but with saline I can possibly go up to 1200cc - and I want to be as big as possible.

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- My personal preference was silicone. They tend to overfill saline, in my opinion. What kind of look are you going for? Are you going for a more natural look or super bolt ons? I did high-profile silicone under the muscle. I have 475cc, but my doctor said he could have fit a 550cc, but nothing bigger due to my small rib cage. I just wanted enough to be in proportion so I could fit in one size dress top and bottom. :)
- Due to my shape I think no matter what it will look bolted on, so I'm likely to go with saline, plus I have the chance to go as big as possible. I like the full look with a round upper pole, so I don't think I'll regret going that route.
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May 28, 2021

After months of continued growth and recently realising that I can wear a band size smaller, I am a (shallow) 32J. Before transitioning I thought that just being a D cup after 2 years would be incredibly lucky, but I feel blessed that I have had such overdevelopment in little over 1 year of growth. In early April I was wearing a 34GG, so I've grown 2 cup sizes in around 2 months. I'm looking forward to the next 12 months.

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Things that make you go...ugh

Apparently instead of having breast tenderness or swelling with my other lovely PMS symptoms, my TOS just becomes cranky. With my cycle 1-3 days away, suddenly every bra that is normally comfy and nice feels like it’s digging a trench into me along the top of the cup between the outside tip of the wire and where the cup meets the strap, but only on the larger side. And, just to make life more confusing, the evil evil Chantelle C Chic Sexy Plunge is suddenly bearable. Honestly, WTF?! This is ridiculous.

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- Agreed, dagmarwulfe . PMS sucks!
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Mar 08, 2021

does full on bottom mean pendulous? confused with some terminology. thanks in advance xx

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- Nope! Pendulous means your breasts hang significantly below your underbust line--full on bottom means that, within the actual breast itself, disconnected from its relation to your body, there's more fullness on the bottom than the top. Here's a link with some diagrams and explanations: https://bustyresources.fandom.com/wiki/Breast_shape
- Here are some attempts to describe the shapes that the system has: https://www.bratabase.com/help/shapes/#Canonical-breast-shapes
  
  My personal opinion is that most boobs are a combination of many shapes in different degrees, which makes it hard to have a hard classification for each pair. They will be some % of one and some % of other. It's all wobbly.
  
  I find that it may help to make sets of shapes from the gallery https://www.bratabase.com/breast-shapes/ that describe them better. For example this set https://www.bratabase.com/breast-shapes/set/1x8/
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Today I had an “ah-ha” moment!

So, I was reading this blog post on “Hugs For Your Jugs” this evening, and it dawned on me why I have so many shape issues with narrower gores/wires. My boobs are totally a splayed shape! I suspected it for a short while now, but after reading this it confirmed my suspicions. The problem is, I have no idea what ... bras/brands are good for splayed shapes, and unfortunately I’m not finding a lot of info on r/ABTF or google.

I also have no idea if this means I need wide wires or narrow wires. All I know is that the inner wire/gore should be wider. Tall and wide gores don’t ever tack for me, but narrower tall gores can. But no matter what I always seem to have gaping between the inner wire/gore and my inner breast shape/IMF. This also makes sense why every time I try to size up for more projection it gets worse with the wrinkles on the inner part of the cup.

I just wanted to share, but if anyone has any suggestions for bras to try I’m all ears!
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Bra Science — Center full? Outer full? Splayed? What does...

Hugs for Your Jugs is a fit-based bra, underwear, and lingerie blog from a body

http://hugsforyourjugs.blogspot.com/2016/09/center-full-outer-full-splayed-wh...

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- Feels. All the feels!
- One of my very favorite bra fit blogs. Honestly, I don't know what other fit concerns you may have encountered, but in most cases if a bra is comfy and supportive and looks acceptable to you personally when you wear it and you have no other indication of fit issues apart from a little bit of wrinkling near the wire, that is ABSOLUTELY not a sign of insufficient projection on its own nor is it sufficient reason to size up (or indeed down). Sure, if you can see lots and lots of wrinkling fabric somewhere, and other clues tell you that the cup or band is not quite right for you that's a clear sign there's a problem, but poor projection is only one of many different possibilities (like the cup simply being the wrong size altogether, or excess tension on the band because it's too small, or overtightened straps for example) .
  
  I have no idea hat good bra fitting means cups need to look precision-molded to the exact shape of the wearer's supported breast... But if you think about it, exact, down-to-the-millimeter correspondence between cup/ wire and boob are pretty unlikely... bodies are not computer designed and boobs rarely are shaped like perfect hemispheres with perfect U-shaped roots. So if you were to look closely, just about everyone has small gaps here and there even in a very well-fitted bra.
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Mar 02, 2021

So sad that the Panache Porcelain Lace in 34G doesn’t fit. I was so excited to get it, but it is so far from fitting me that I can’t even tell what the actual main problem is. First it’s far too tall in the cups, and definitely too wide in the wires. These problems are so bad I can’t tell ... if it’s also too projected or not. The band is also kinda loose for a 34/75. I can put it on the middle hook no problem. I’m sad because it’s so pretty and seems so well made and feels comfy. But it also raises the spectre of my too big cups phobia. Sigh.
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Feb 12, 2021

Whenever I get a bra that's too big in the cups I feel like it's because my boobs are too small and I get very self conscious. It kind of ruins my day. I was a very "late bloomer" and I know it comes from that, but it still doesn't make it easier to process.

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- I’m the same way! And then I get so surprised when a bra happens to be too small.
- Me too! I'm a 28GG, so my boobs are about average sized, not necessarily "small". but each time I get a bra that's slightly too big I feel like part of the IBTC (not that there's anything wrong with that!).
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So sad that my boobs grew..

I gained weight. From being able to wear a Frey 28, I now need to use a bra extender on a la senza 34. Not sure if it's only because of the cups or I'm really now a 36?

Haven't measured myself because I'm scared.

This just makes me really really sad. I know how this might be irrelevant for some. But for someone like me who is already struggling to find the correct bra, this is just so sad..

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- I’m so sorry that you’re dealing with this. I can unfortunately relate. 😔 I’m also in the same boat of gaining weight and struggling because now none of my bras fit right, and I’m having so much discomfort from the band digging into my skin above my stomach. I’m also scared to buy new bras and 1) not be able to find the right size or 2) buying new bras in the new size and then losing weight and have to start all over again.
- Just in case it helps; Freya bands are (or at least used to be) very stretchy!
  
  Don't know about LaSenza (never worn them), but the 28 Freya band may be closer to the LaSenza 34 than it seems.. ?
  
  Also, I can totally imagine this sucks ): but try not to be too hard on yourself. Times are challenging enough as it is.
  
  If you do manage to work up the courage, just measure yourself, and/or ask for advice on here for something comfortable to wear? Maybe some stretch lace bras or supportive sports tops to allow for fluctuation?
  
  FWIW, your comfort is more important than sizes/labels/measurements <3
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