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• I’ve owned a few Gorsenia, and got a pretty good with with a size 65I. I mostly wear Ewa Michalak and in EM I wear a 65G in soft cup and 65GG in padded styles. Hope this helps you find a size in Gorsenia that works for you. : )

• The A Bra That Fits calculator usually puts me at a 30FF and I find that i have to go down 1 cup size from that to fit Gorsenia. So I order 30F from the store and the bra that arrives is 65G. I've never tried Ewa so unfortunately I have no experience with that brand :)

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• boob or bust calculator has me at 28H, or something. They usually go too small of a band, and too big of a cup (it's my understanding - someone else chime in!) I would trust the A Bra that Fits calculator, or bratabase calculator.

• Definitely frustrating. I get all different kinds of numbers. I don’t think I’ve ever had two online calculators give me the same size recommendation. I just take it with a grain of salt. Probably why when I found a bra and size that worked, I buy it in every color it gets made in.

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• you can do a virtual fitting with Bravissimo. https://www.bravissimo.com/virtual-fitting/ or reach out to their customer service https://www.bravissimo.com/contact/ Since it's their brand, they could probably advise you the best!

• I tried the chat today, but something came up so I tried to keep the conversation as short as I could. I told my measurements and she said 38H... then I added some more details ( they r sagged ) she then suggested to get 36 HH. I have to make a decision. I don't want the band too tight , I work in high temperatures, often sweaty, want to avoid excessive pressure. And EU 85 is considered by most converter tables to be equivalent of 38. Also I've come upon few mentions that Apollo band is quite tight. Plz , someone who has the Apollo, plz tell me what is your opinion?

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• Congrats on finding a good sports bra!
  And wow so cheap, wish they shipped internationally (:

  For the rest of your questions, yes seems pretty complex! Does sound like you've figured out most of your fit wishes, now to find something that accommodates!

  Not sure I can help (different shape / needs), but my 2 cents:
  - Gorsenia is known as being pretty deep (maybe you could alter the gore?)
  - Maybe something like Curvy Kate Super plunge could be Frankenstein'd into something?
  - Perhaps a Comexim plunge with alterations? Added projection, lowered gore, straps moved in..

  Good luck!

• @bubblegum I'm honestly a bit scared of trying Comexim again after the issues I had last time. It was really upsetting to order multiple sizes to find my fit with them (my size has always been such that I'm between cups plus I knew their bands fit differently so was between bands too until I learned how they fit me too) and to have them say I could only try two max, then never respond to my fit request to ask for help choosing which 2. Eventually they sent one bra, but it was the smallest of them & whilst the band was just about ok, I definitely needed the bigger cup. But they just stopped responding and never sent the second bra and it took me 4 months to get a refund for the ones they said they wouldn't make me, and even then it was only for 2 bras, so I was still out the cost of one bra in the end.

  Its such a shame because I was hoping that once I'd found my closest fit I could then request alterations. But I don't trust they'd do them and I've only ever seen people request specific amounts of reduction/moving of straps. It always seems to be 2cm. I don't know if anyone has had any luck say asking for a gore no higher than a certain amount (like ideally for me the gore wouldn't be higher than 1½" tall, but in my cup size they tend to be closer to 4" so 2cm off that would still put it around 3" high).

  I know the reality is that I'm going to have to learn to make my own bras if I actually want something that works, but I doubt I can manage that by the end of August. I don't even have a chair I can use to sew at a desk (its not just my boobs which are weirdly proportioned lol, my torso is just so damn short I need a high chair to get me the right height to use a table).

  Any suggestions on Gorsenia styles to try? All the models I've seen appear to be unlined (which doesn't work well for me) and in balcony styles. If the gore is too high it will just be scraping my collar bone & sitting on top of my bust tissue (I have never been able to get balcony wires to fit between my bust tissue, never mind "tacking" the wires aren't meant to sit on your nipples are they?).

  I haven't actually tried Curvy Kate bras, when I last got fitted at Bravissimo they didn't even bother trying them on me because they said they were wider (especially in cup separation) and more shallow than the one I was already trying so would be worse. Though they don't carry their full range, so perhaps that one wasn't available to try. It does look like a potential contender with the low front though! So might be worth trying in a smaller band & just extender the crap out of it lol

  I actually just read their fit notes about how for high set busts you often need a wider band size since that higher part of the back is just wider and I'm all like ohhhhh of course! Like I knew I needed that and others didn't but hadn't quite twigged it was because the back is just broader higher up.

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Comexim and Ewa Michalak recs

Hi all! I'm finally in the market for a new bra or two. Apart from my Fauve half cups, long discontinued but going strong, I mostly have Comexims in my collection. My go-to size and cut right now is a 60HH 3HC with overlapping gore, straps moved in, and added depth above the wire as alterations.

For summer, I'd like something ... unlined, preferably with sheer/mesh cups. I have never ordered an unlined Comexim. I am thinking of requesting a custom 3HC in one of their unlined models with the same alterations I usually get. Should I go up or down a cup, or order the same size?

I haven't tried EM at all, so I am out of my element on sizes and cuts. They also have some sheer unlined bras, but I can't find any half cups currently. My problem with unlined balconettes, or balcony bras in general, is always the top horizontal seam section. I have very soft tissue with little upper fullness and I get in-cup quad very easily. Hence half cups being my jam. But that is generally based on experience with UK bras. Maybe there is an EM cut that is soft/empty-on-top friendly.

Any advice on sizes or cuts to try?

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• : ) : ) : ) Ewa Michalak BM? Just chatting about this with another bratabase user (well, I jumped into the convo) Are you in the U.S.? You can order this style from 3 places in the U.S., that I am aware of, Levana bratique (https://levanabratique.com/bras/polish-bras/), Aphrodite's Closet (https://www.facebook.com/AphroditesClosetSanAntonio) in San Antonio, and The Rack Shack in NYC. https://www.therackshackbk.com/

• BraOdyssey Thanks! I'm not in the US, I'm in the EU.

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• Have you tried the Comexim size calculator from abtf redditor? I have found it to be accurate personally

  https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/m5aq52/project_i_made_a_comexim_bra_size_conversion_tool/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

• Also typically your comexim cup size would be 2-3 cup sizes up from your UK bra cup size, depending on your shape I.e. FOT or FOB. Based on this I think 65P sounds way too big?

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• IDK, but I am following this post...all I have is BM, too.

• I would go up. I don't think a 65GG PL would be too big on you, if it is, you could likely utilize the pads. I think most people go up a cup from their BM size when buying a padded. I need a 65FF PL and I'm a pretty solid 65F in BMs.

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Projection guide from the reddit

*THE reddit is an inside joke.

Not sure how I missed this bra-fitting magic post by ceramicthumb on reddit, but here is an interesting link to a projection and shape guide for various bra styles! https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/myp66c/projectguide_shape_guide_for_projection_and/

Plus, there is a link to "How to find bras in the right shape" on Imgur on the above post. This post is like bra-fitting gold...

r/ABraThatFits - [Project/Guide] Shape Guide for Projecti...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/myp66c/projectguide_shape_guid...

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• I always hoped that this could be figured by clicking around. I would also suggest using the search by measurements as it can be more powerful in order to find bras that are not the same labeled size but fall within the desired measurements range.

  One caveat about those lists, they change live as more bras are added, so I always fear about those snapshots of lists. It continuously adjusts with new data.

  It will work much better to link to Bratabase.com (on any of the mentions) or even better directly to the screen from which the list was scrapped off like this:
  https://www.bratabase.com/browse/by-size/30:8/measurements/?style=&hide_discontinued=True&exclude_no_data=on

  I'm always very diligent on making sure that all these pages have proper URLs that can be linked and take you to the precise result. That way, what you share always contains up to date information, and brings people over to add their data.

• Jj , oh okay, I see.

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• Minimizers are designed with a shallower apex and more volume in top of the cup, this pushes the tissue into the top of the cup, minimizing projection. If you're not filling the top you may try a 32C, bali does make a minimizer in that size.
  The other option is to just try some shallow cut bras, but that very well may cause other fit issues for you.
  If you post your measurements there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here who could point you in good direction.

• Thanks so much. Measurements are on my profile and visible (I think?) or this should be the link: http://bra.pe/QLjH/

  I might give the bali 32C a shot, though I think that cup would just be overall too small and uncomfortable. It's interesting that the minimizer is supposed to push tissue into the top of the cup - I don't think it had enough lift to do that for me. I really need to be hoisted. So it squished me in more like a pancake, which minimized projection but without filling in the apex. Maybe it squished in that way because it was too small? Since I'm really more like a 30DD?

  If trying a shallow cup like you mentioned, would you suggest I keep my band size (30) and go up a cup size to E or F? Could be worth a shot.

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Is Freya just not for me?

I plan on posting fitting help soon, but I just received my Freya Active sports bra in 28D and THERE IS SO MUCH ROOM in the cup QwQ I can put my hands on top of my chest and that's how the cups fill out

at least the band fits? is there anyone here who would possibly like to purchase it off me?

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• I definitely identify with this " Therefore they cut in when I sit down and since they come up so high get pushed down while I sit. this causes then wire to slide down, cut into my flesh and bottom of cups become empty." My bravissimo Allie and Gemma both do this. I dont really think about the sides of the bra but it gets uncomfortable in the IMF when I sit and feels like it slides down for sure..

• I'm not a bra sizing expert, but the few YouTube videos I've watched on Comexim alterations, this one from Erica at A Sophisticated Pair, she talks about how the changes (necessary alterations) start at about cup size H in Comexim - I know that this is a different brand that what you are talking about - but it is (with comexim, at least) a scaling issue of their patterns to a larger cup size.
  to add to the confusion, I'm not sure if Erica means a Comexim size H (Comexim uses their own unique cup sizing system, using 2 cm per cup) or UK cup size H. Link to video on Comexim alterations https://youtu.be/METoV07IF6A
  But I think Ewa Michalak has the best scaling for larger cup sizes??

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• Welcome to Bratabase and your journey to better fitting and more comfortable bras!

  AND welcome to the small boob club!

  A good start to the adventure is measuring your body, recheck how to do that, and measure your body again. Doing the same with your bras gets those measurements and important dimensions in your head and a beginning in understanding how bras are constructed and what your body needs.

  Get some pictures up in a bra that you think fits the best. The fitting help option is great for feedback but no need to show 5 bad bras! Good lighting, level shots without torsion and angle to distort the view is most helpful to folks making comments.

  Start with buying a couple different bras and repeat the measuring, pictures and feedback. Put in the work to assess your body needs, bra sizing, and measuring and you are well on your way.

  Good luck!

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• Depends on where I am on the band spectrum, honestly. I'd been on the smaller side of a 30 for a while in most brands (Polish 65s are usually totally fine, though), but now at, last I measured, 28.2 inches around snug I've found myself wanting to move to the second or third set of hooks on certain bras rather quickly. I think I'll try some 28s the next time I get a UK bra.

  So tl;dr if the bigger size feels in the realm of 'ehhhh I wish this was a liiitttlleee tighter, might move to the second set of hooks in a few weeks' I'd probably stay on the bigger size--beyond that I think I would(/I will) get the smaller size and use an extender if need be.

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• i only get back rolls when a band is 2 hooks. if i could get bras in my size to be 4 or more or actually 1, then i don't get back rolls. but most of my bras come with 2 hooks and that is what makes fat rolls on me, regardless of band tightness.

• I’ve wondered this! I feel like I always have back rolls regardless of the size of my band!

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• Try the bra back on and pull in your breasts aggressively (more so than normal). That is what I had to do when I was fitted at Breakout Bras. They are amazing if you are in the area. I picked up the Gloria and Elise today. If not, the best advice I can give is to pull in all of that tissue (aggressively) and see how many cup sizes you feel you are off. You will get a good feel for it because you know what it should look like. BB is great at taking in returns so long as the bra hasn't been worn. If you are 2 sizes off then definitely go with the G. If it's just one then go with the FF. Play around with the band. I actually had to go down a band size. I knew that sucker was fitting a little too comfy.

• faeriequeene , hmm. this is interesting. I know you posted a couple months ago, but maprilwilson just responded.
  I was wondering myself if the alteration "lowered cup" affects volume, because I think I have read both. LOL. If I'm reading your ? correctly, you want to know if "lowered cup" alteration affects cup volume in the padded 3HC?

  And it seems like there are always questions about Comexim alterations.

  This is in a difference size, but I was just discovered all of these Comexim reviews. https://brogwithadog.wordpress.com/tag/comexim/ I believe she mostly wears plunges though.

  I know Erica at S.P. (she made a lot of Comexim youTube videos) talks about alterations, but these are mostly the padded plunges. https://youtu.be/METoV07IF6A

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Elomi wires (list of which bra have the older and newer wire - will be updated in comments)

Since the topic came up on various adventures and bra reviews I thought I make a dedicated post to gather all info in one place.
Elomi bras used to have very wide and flexible wires. I call them pudding wire. Often the wires stretched far beyond my breast tissue and ended up my back. This is an example on how ... it looked: http://bra.pe/IHed/
So while the bras were comfy to wear, the fit wasn't as great and the shape got really wide an east west.
That kept me from getting more into Elomi for years when in 2019 I gave them another chance and discovered that the wires are much better, they are more sturdy and don't stretch out that well. I think they are comparable to other big bust brands like Fantasie, Freya (they also improved their wires check out my other post on them http://bra.pe/AFPS/) and Bravissimo.

So I wanted to start a list on which bra new wires are, so you know what you will get when you buy them online. Not all bras have been updated (and I don't have any info by Elomi when and if they will - I assume there is also customers that liked the old fit so it makes sense they don't change everything. I just wish they be transparent which bras they changed) I only list bras I tried myself. Let me know which ones your tried and how the wires were and I will include the info here.

New improved wire:
Charley red and navy with embroiderie (the non stretch cup!)
Eugenie black with silver lace
Lucie Plunge SS20
Mariella Hidden Tiger AW20
Matilda Berry ss20
Matilda Flame
Matilda teal
Sachi in black
Sports bra (beige)
Tori Plunge


Old stretchy wires:
Caitlyn all colours
Charley bralette pink
Kim plunge bra in black
Lydia Bandless bra beige
Meredith bra black
Mariella blue print SS19
Morgan toasted almond (tried in 2019)
Orla plunge bra
Rosalind plunge
Tatiana banded bra
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34JJ - Elomi Caitlyn Underwire Side Support Bra (8030) | ...

Bratabase: Bra database where you can compare bras and see how they'll fit you.

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• Thanks for sharing! I love Elomi bras but I hate wires wrapping around my back.

• Splendid idea, alisa !

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• Freya half cups are considered by many to be wide and shallow. This includes their regular padded half cups and longlines. Freya’s bands are also known to be stretchy, though, so if a 28 band fitting like a 30 would be a deal breaker, it would be a good idea to check the band measurement for that particular model. Sometimes black bras have less stretchy bands due to the type of dye used.

• Oh and welcome to Bratabase! :D

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Freya Jasmine Meadow

Hi! Anyone with projection have experience with the freya meadow jasmine molded bra?

https://www.bratabase.com/browse/freya/jasmine-meadow-moulded-plunge-bra-3144/

Jasmine Meadow Moulded Plunge Bra (3144) - Freya

https://www.bratabase.com/browse/freya/jasmine-meadow-moulded-plunge-bra-3144/

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• For was very similar to the deco line for me, so too shallow

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• Sometimes the btb calculator can make mistakes. A fitting request with some pictures may help.

• Building on what smjwzhan said, I would much sooner trust the abtf calculator (https://www.abrathatfits.org/calculator.php) than the bratabase one, although the simple way of measuring of 'bust minus snug underbust' works for many people.

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