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Confused about how to measure the cup width properly

Hi. I'm confused about how to properly measure the cup width. The guide says "This is an imaginary straight line from tip to tip of the cup or underwire For this measurement do not include the width of the wires."

I understand you have to measure from the tip to tip of the underwire for underwire bras. But in bras like ... the Natori Feathers, neasuring tip to tip of the underwire seenms very different from measuring the tip to tip of the cup?

Which line should I be measuring? Red or blue? (or some other way?)

I also looked at some examples from the Bratabase help.
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• Red line

• I've always measured red (wire to wire).

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• that's a great question. Do you have one in particular? Maybe the best way is to list the ones you're considering buying, and people can comment.

• Hmm maybe you can tell based on the breast shape of the person wearing the best in the pictures? If their breasts look FOT/tall and it doesn't look like the top of the bra cup is cutting into their tissue, creating quad boob, then perhaps it's a bra you can consider trying. I have the same shape as you btw.

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• Yes, on my most recent 3-hook Comexim purchase it measures 3/4 inch from the center of one hook to the center of the hook next to it.

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• I don't know if you're going to find this helpful, but maybe you could get a swim shirt/tank top? That way you could get whatever works for you in your size and then just throw something over it if you don't love wearing it out and about?

• Curvy Kate has so tankinis are are more modest on Brastop. Otherwise, all of the designs are quite low cut. Tankinis aren't the best to swim laps in though! I don't know if the reddit forum r/bigboobproblems would have more ideas. There is currently a thread asking about ideas for athethic swimsuits. https://www.reddit.com/r/bigboobproblems/comments/y3xdvy/a_good_workout_swimsuit_1_piece/

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• I suggest you read reviews of this bra on this site from users in your size range. Then if you do buy the bra, add your own measurements and review of the bra.

• Hello, hopefully I can help a little. My daughter wears the Natori Feathers bra in a 30C.
  30C is a sister size to 32B, so hopefully these measurements help you.
  The cup on her bra measures (in inches):
  Cup width: 4.75”
  Cup depth: 7.5”
  Cup height: 4.5”
  Center Gore Width: .75”
  Center Gore Height: .75”
  This bra fits her well because the cup is a little more wide, spaced apart, and flat compared to some bras in the same size range.

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• Sounds like the band is a smidge big for you. Sizing down might give you more life out of your bras, but you also might be in between sizes. In that case, you can wear bras in the bigger band on the tightest hook like you talk about here or you can wear bras in the smaller band with an extender until they stretch out a bit.

• Thanks @bustyand
  I guess I’ll buy an extender too, then :D

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Comexim bikini sizing

How do they compare to the regular bras? Do they run smaller or larger in the cups? Especially this one, I don’t see any reviews of it here
https://www.comexim.pl/en/kostiumy-kapielowe/623-bondi-biustonosz.html

BONDI BIUSTONOSZ - Sklep Comexim Lingerie

https://www.comexim.pl/en/kostiumy-kapielowe/623-bondi-biustonosz.html

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• I've tried a few now and I find them to fit similarly to the bras. Fit is the same in the cup. The swimsuit fabric is much stretchier and there's only one hook so the band isn't as tight. I prefer a stretchier band for swimsuits so I don't look bulgy around the band so it works fine for me.

• I have a few Comexim bikinis and I find the cups fit much like their bras. The only thing is their bands run very stretchy in their swimwear. I’ve had four tops and every one of them has been overly stretchy in the band. Some people might prefer to size down in the band and up one cup to keep their usual size. Me personally, I just take the band in at the clip myself since I’m not dead set on having a perfect fit with swimwear I wear a few months out of the year. For their bottoms I’m in between their size Medium and size Large (I wear a size 38 in EU sizing for panties). I usually go with the Large right now for more rear coverage as well as height since I have a long torso.

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• Hello. In the past when I had the front of a bra sliding down, as well as the back band moving up or sliding down, it was due to wearing the wrong size. Your wire should be sitting in your inframammary fold. Have you checked your measurements recently to ensure you’re wearing the correct size? Have you adjusted your bra straps? You can do a fit check with basic pics to get some really good feedback.

• Agreed with @Happy2BraShop - good advice to do a fit request with some clear pics!

  Additionally, it can also be a projection issue:

  Some bras/models are made to fit more shallow & wide, as opposed to deep & projected.

  A 'too shallow' style bra can slide down on you because the breast needs more depth, essentially pushing the wires down. In that case, sizing up won't really solve your problem, it's the 3D dimensions that are off.

  Depending on your breast tissue distribution, root width and firmness, you'll have to figure out what specific styles & brands work best for you! A fit request is a great starting place.

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• Hello. I don’t have any experience with Elomi, but trying a cup up may help you further evaluate and asses your current fit issues. If you’re looking for a lower narrower gore in a bra, Ewa Michalak makes a new PLM style that is very low plunge and the straps can be crossed in the back. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can chime in and provide more help. :)

• Have you tried sculptresse chi-chi? My favorite now are Gorsenia but haven’t found anything w straps close enough.

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• How tall are you? I'm 5'1 (/ ~154, 155 cm if I'm not mistaken), and I have this problem quite a bit. My 'quick fix' answer would be to stuff some sort of cotton or fabric between the wire and your skin, and there is a possibility that you might just get used to high wires after a while, but my longer term fix advice is to start measuring your bras. I can say that on me, personally, I have a lot of luck with Ewa Michalak bras, which one can understand looking at the 'wire length' measurement between my EMs and other wired bras. For instance: my 28HH Panache Envy (https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dngwz/) has a wire length of 12 inches (30.5 cm) and my 65H EM Sf Moonlight Lace (https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dn8d2/) has a wire length of 10.5 inches (26.7 cm)

  See if you can figure out where the wire length 'threshold' is for you, and then, you can use bratabase to search for similar bras with shorter wires.

• Since you have a projected shape, it's hard to get a good fit in a molded cup. I'm guessing a molded cup is not going to work in size 34FF UK (I used this conversion chart) https://www.breakoutbras.com/pages/sizing-chart

  You could maybe try a Spacer foam bra, but I'm not sure if you'll have the same problem as the other bras - with the cups cutting in. It sounds like you could possibly have "shorts roots" or high-set breasts? You could check out this shape guide (I know it's a bit confusing at first) https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/wiki/shape_guide/

  Also, it's my understanding with Spacer foam - there is less shaping of the breast and you kind of just have your natural shape, but they are supposed to be comfy!

  Other recommendations would be Ewa Michalak bras (they have shorter wires on the side) or Comexim (you can request cups to be reduced). Ewa Michalak and Comexim bras are both padded and seamed, that way they work better for a projected shape.

  https://www.bratabase.com/browse/comexim/

  https://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/

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• It would probably be easier to try out the bras from Comexim available from Breakout Bras. https://www.breakoutbras.com/collections/comexim if you're in the US or Canada, because these bras can be returned or exchanged.They are even 30% this week with this discount code https://www.breakoutbras.com/pages/special-deals for Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

  If you order direct, you will have a lot more choices, but...the chances of it fitting well the first time one tries the bras is pretty risky! It's better to try the bras out first through Breakout bras, that way you can get the sizing and styles that would work for you. (and see if the bra would even work for your sister in the first place).

  I wrote a post on another forum, "How to order Comexim from Breakout Bras for Canadian and Americans." https://www.reddit.com/r/PolishBras/comments/qhuwyr/how_to_purchase_comexim_from_breakout_bras_for/

  Also, re: sizing, some redditers made an app that is a good starting place as far as ordering Comexim (either from Breakout or from Comexim.pl) https://comeximcalc.herokuapp.com/ If your sister in 38F UK, Breakout bras recommends purchasing 38G UK from them (they say to go up 2 UK cup sizes for an "ideal fit") and the equivalent size from Comexim.pl would be 38HH. edit: 85HH !!

• re: sizing though, some people (like myself) size up in the band.

  Also, I wouldn't say the app is exactly foolproof re: sizing (although it is a good place to start). Some people will need to go up a cup, down a cup, etc.

  You can also contact Breakout Bras for sizing and style help https://www.breakoutbras.com/pages/contact-us

  If your sister is projected and FOB, I would recommend starting with the padded plunge style, if that is not enough projection, she could try some of their unpadded styles.

  My shape doesn't work for the padded 3HC style (I'm FOB and projected), though some people can wear both padded styles, I've noticed.

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• What size is your Ewa PL? I doubt you'll be able to get a gore low enough unless you pick a deep plunge model AND ask for a reduced gore height.

• 65F, it's a bit big in the band but I got mine secondhand so a new one would likely fit better. I considered the deep plunge but I heard those were very shallow and wide. I don't mind the gore being a bit higher than ewa, but I still need it to be pretty low(5/6cm) for the underwire not to hurt(not a fit issue, I have a rib that dislocates with gores higher than that)

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• If your roots are wide comexim and ewa michalak will both be too narrow for you.

• Hmm, for 'wide root" I'm not sure if Comexim is going to be the best bra....it pains me to say that b/c I truly love their stuff . and find their bras life-changing...and recommend them very often - maybe even over recommend. LOL. (consequently, I can't get onto their website right now, it has too much traffic atm, I imagine).

  Here is an into to the brand from the Breakout Bras blog - when they first started selling the brand several years ago. https://breakoutbras.wordpress.com/2016/08/09/comexim-a-5-bra-review/ In the blog she says, "It works best for people with narrow to average roots."
  that's because the cups do not come up so high on the underarm side, see this picture https://www.bratabase.com/picture/dmbzy/

  but I don't want to be so negative - maybe some other people can chime in and prove me wrong, lol.

  Or maybe there are more wide-root friendly styles? It's my understanding Elomi and Panache are good for wide-root people.

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• If it's 34G in UK sizing, about a 75G, but you may need to size up or down in certain cuts.

• marilynne Thank you! Would you happen to know which certain cuts I'd have to size up or down in? Or is that up to me to see?

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• Hmm, I stole a quote from another person and I posted it on this forum re: Gorsenia. https://www.reddit.com/r/PolishBras/comments/qy1dxt/info_re_ewa_michalak_lupoline_gorsenia_avocado/

  She wrote, " Gorsenia. Ah, my hot and cold love affair. Most of their unlined bras fit 1 cup larger, a good amount 2 cups larger, a small amount true to size. I suggest avoiding their earlier models (numbers below 200). So far I have discovered roughly 3 subtypes to their current unlined bras - very rounded and overall deep, more likely to fit 2 cups large (i.e. Eva, Evita); extremely roomy at the wire but not quite as forward projecting, almost a little flattened, quite effective minimizers if your breasts don't necessarily need as much forward projection and are happy with depth elsewhere (i.e. Simena); the most populous type is a more classically projected bra with a somewhat more pointed shape and smaller but still adequate room around the wire (i.e. Paradise). The third type has the most variation in the shape in the upper section and is the least likely to fit 2 cups large (first is the most likely), and the one with most of the true to size outliers. Gorsenia likes to have fun with their designs, and they're cheap. Minus - in addition to somewhat unreliable cup sizing their bands can run snug but sometimes can stretch out fast. The fabric can on occasion look cheap. So... Gorsenia is an experiment that can pay off very well, but not on the first.. or second... try."

• Gorsenia sizing follows standard EU sizing so 100E would be 44DD and 100G would be 44F. Looks like the second one is correct but the first one is 1 cup size off? 44E should convert to 100F.

  UK cups: A B C D DD E F
  EU cups: A B C D E F G

  These are the direct size conversions but I'd also keep in mind that unlined Gorsenia bras generally run large in the cup.

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• In my experience, the 3HC was much worse for projection than the plunge style, but neither were great for immediate projection without added depth. I have not ordered from Comexim with alterations, I've purchased all my altered Comexim bras second hand so I can't give great advice there, but I can share sizing and style compared to EM. The Comexim plunge is not like the Ewa plunge, the gore is much higher (unless you ask for it to be reduced), the cup depth is different (it's deepest at a higher point than Ewa), and the band is stretchier. I wear a 65GG/70G in Ewa PL, 65G in BM, and I have Comexim plunges with alterations in 60L and 65K that fit. I am also center full with immediate projection and I think the plunge works well. From what I've read here, if you're adding depth at the wire either keep the same cup size or go down one cup, but it may depend on the specific bra. Hopefully others can give better advice! Or you could try writing to Comexim for advice, they're helpful with sizing and suggestions.

• I agree that plunges have more immediate depth. You can add 2cm to plunge and 1cm to 3HC, iirc.

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