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Question about Comexim customization

Hi ladies,

I have a Comexim plunge in 60HH (blue magic that came from the lovely <a href="/@sonya" class="mentioned-item">Sonya</a> ) and it is almost a perfect fit. The straps and height of the cup are perfect. The band is dreamy. But, my breasts feel a little smooshed at the bottom of the cup. It is not massively uncomfortable - I ... just feel a little compressed.

Does anyone know if it possible to order a plunge with addition room at the wire? If so, how do I request the customization - does anyone know the polish phrasing?

I feel like I need the depth of a 60J, but for every other part of the bra to be a 60HH. I have tried a 60J but the cups were way too tall and the straps were comically wide.

Any advice? They have the Sonya plunge on the website and I think I need it.
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- You can request the deeper cup option, this person wrote how they did it: https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dinqw/
- Sovavosi Amazing! This was exactly what I was looking for :)
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Ewa PL size for me

Ok, so I have decided on trying this bra from Ewa. It is PL style (I know, I hate padded bras, but you know, they wont give me what I want in nonpadded for so it is what it is). So I'm going to be order the 65 band for ease of return. Should I order the 65C or 65D? ... I worry that there will be significant change in height and width of the bra between the two sizes. Though I do fit the Natori's Feathers in a 30DDD, which I know runs small and shallow and Ewa is like waaaaay projected in even the PL in comparison to the normal US/UK Plunge bras. My best fitting bra right now is my <a href="/bra/diq83/" class="mentioned-item">30DD - Claudette » Paramour Underwire Bra (101015008)</a> . But I also know that my breasts do not need as a much depth with a lower coverage bra in comparison to a fuller coverage bra like the Paramour. My 28DD shoulder bra and 30D comfort bra are starting to feel a bit tight, but they are also full coverage. I can't wear my <a href="/bra/divjl/" class="mentioned-item">28D - Cleo » Minnie Balconnet Bra (7431)</a> anymore because it's just too small and constricting. I can still get away with my <a href="/bra/diqsq/" class="mentioned-item">28D - Cleo » Maddie Moulded T-shirt Bra (7201)</a> but it feels like it crushing me while still having the very top of the cup not mold to me very well. Whatchu guys think? 65C or 65D in PL?

And, I was thinking about 65B in CH Cherry due to the wide open top and projection. I'd say my breast comes out at about an 80% degree angle (from the wire) on my "smaller side" and a 75% angle on my "larger side."
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- Do you think you could order a D from a store in the US/CA? And then return if it's too large? Imho it's so much easier dealing with a bra that is too large than one that is too small. For large you have cookies, you can take them in etc, small are just small and there's not much you can do about it.
- What I'm saying is ideally you wanna try both, but I personally would start with a D cause it's just easier sizing down than sizing up.
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Nov 11, 2018

I am hoping for help translating across brands. My best-fitting bras are EM CHPs in 80GG... should I try Kris Line in a 36H? I've seen references to the bands being tight in smaller sizes and true to size in smaller cups, but also a couple saying the bands are stretchy in the larger sizes and the bigger cups run a bit small....

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- It really would be dependent on the style you are looking at in Kris Line, and how the CHP fits your breasts currently.
  
  For me, I size down in CHP for a more rounded mound (28:15) and because she won't make the style in a 28:16 haha. Yet I wear a 28:16-28:17 in Ewa's other styles.
  
  In Kris Line I wear a 28:18 though, but it's the only style they make in my size and not really comparable to Ewa's CHP style.
  
  I see you have one CHP, but tried a second that didn't fit in the same size. What were the fit issues in that 2nd one and how did it differ from the first? Do you have any other bras that fit that could help us guide you?
  
  Also, which style/model of Kris Line were you looking at getting?
- Yikes -- thanks for reminding me that I never finished documenting that @Magnolia! It is actually the best-fitting bra I own now... my other much-beloved EM is getting pretty worn out.
  
  I found a Brilliant soft cup on ebay at a good price... it is technically a nursing bra, but it is really pretty and I thought I might give it a try.
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Help!

Everyone, I need help picking a size! I have been IN LOVE with this Swan Lake Maxi Bra from <a href="/browse/mimi-holliday/" class="mentioned-item">Mimi Holliday</a> for a long time now, but it was going for 70+$ when it was available in "my size" range. But now it is on sale for something I'm OK spending with my 15% discount and free shipping ... worldwide with orders of 50 pounds (cause I NEED another 28DD shoulder bra don'tcha know...) I have obsessed over MH for a long time and so far I have good fits with the brand. BUT, these are the two sizes available for me 28F and 30DD.
I have a 28DD in their Bissou Purple Shoulder Bra and a 30D in their Reverie Comfort bra...
but what makes me think I could go for these sizes which are like HUGE in comparison to my others is the model. They normally shove that poor model into a 34B in every bra except the Maxi Bra. Here they have her in a 32F which is a full FOUR cup sizes larger than the normal 34B we see her in. Most of the other maxi bras we see her in she is wearing a 32E, so this one obviously runs fairly small. So that means for me that the 28F is 2 cups sizes larger and the 30DD is 1 cup size larger....and that's without factoring in that this bra runs small.
Help please! I gotta get it before it runs out again. I almost wish I had gotten it for the seventy some odd dollars when it was available in the 28E!
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White Lace & Swan Big, Large Cup Maxi Bra - Swan Lake

This bra is true to its name - maximum support, maximum comfort and maximum sedu

https://www.mimiholliday.com/collections/all-lingerie/products/swan-lake-maxi...

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- The bra and panties are gorgeous and so unique! WIsh they had my size!
- Understandable dilemma! I am going to venture another potential query for you though. Are you sure the model didn't get new boob growth? If the photo session is later on this one than the others, it is possible her breasts just changed.
  
  Such a bummer we don't have any Maxi bras added in those sizes to help shed light on this one, or any of this model added at all that I could find......
  
  I would suggest giving customer service a call and asking if this one runs larger in the cup (& smaller in the band if they dropped her band on this one.)
  
  But, if calling isn't an option, & you're confident the model didn't go through a size change, I'd say go for the 28F, as it sounds like the band runs big as well as the cups small. :-)
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Comexim cookie pockets

Has anybody done this alteration? Do they give you cookies as well?

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- No cookies, just the pockets.
- Bummer. Do EM cookies fit in them?
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Nov 01, 2018

Im not very sure why ive been getting strain at the side of my ribcage when i wear bras. Doesn't really matter how tight the band is

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- May be a rib articulation problem or a strain of the small muscles in between or abdominal musculature attachments. Can be from an event a while ago or more recent. Might need some sleuthing to figure out what it is and what to do about it! Good luck in figuring it out.
- I agree with jazzypants , this sounds more like a doctor related problem and wearing the bra just makes the strain more noticeable than without. Hope a doctor is helpful!
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Oct 30, 2018

Anyone have reccomendations for brands of cookies or inserts to add for increased symmetry? Amazon has an enormous variety!

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- That would greatly depend on what size you are (both band and cup), how much of a difference you have between your breasts(estimated such as a full cup difference, half a cup, or more than a cup), plus if you prefer padded vs unpadded bras (as thr bras ability to mask the pads under clothing will vary based on that). If you could provide that information, we would be better suited to give you an appropriate answer.
- Oh, and what climate you live in matters, hot humid areas are not as silicone insert friendly for example.
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EM 75KKs similar to 60KKs and I’m confused

I was dinking around on this website, and decided to look up FB measurements because I was bored. Apparently, 75KK have an average depth of around 14 inches, which is the same as 60KKs. I’m confused - a 75KK is supposed to be multiple sizes bigger, but the cup depth is virtually the same and the width is about 6.5-7in. Is it the next step after 60KK? Why is bra sizing this confusing?! 😩

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- If you look at the breakdown you will see this is a comparison of apples and oranges, because they aren't measurements of the same bras in different sizes... They're different bras, in different cuts, that vary dramatically in depth, and are represented differently in each size category. Large depth variations between different cup styles and designs at the same size point are normal--if you look at my current size, a very unremarkable 30F/32E, you'll already see cup depths ranging between 8" and 9.5" (and that's just for the data recorded by users who measure accurately!) If you can have variation of 1.5" in depth for cups of that size, imagine the variation that can occur for cups that are roughly 1 and a half times bigger.
  
  Now for the details: the 60KK EM entries are almost exclusively the work of one user and the BM cut she apparently buys, that is stretchy and presumably runs deeper at the apex than all other cuts, is WAY overrepresented compared to other sizes (where there are more entries by more users who therefore enter more cuts of EM bras). Likewise there are really not very many actual measured entries in 75KK,and they are the work of just a handful of users who (unlike our 60KK user) favored the smaller/shallower/nonstretch low-cut cups. Most of those bra designs are a lot older than the 60KKs (and virtually no BMs). Does that make sense?
  
  Finally, averages don't indicate a typical size. Look at the spread of the measurements. 60KK has a ton of 15-16 inch cups, and a whole slew of 12-13 depths which aren't even real measurements--they're just assumed depth based on data from users who measured other sizes, some of which might be kinda far away from this square on the bra size table. In contrast, 75KK has almost EVERYTHING tightly clustered around the 14.5 inch depth (again--for the smaller non-BM bras).
- wendybien I get that they are different cuts, but basically what I saw is that the Fb line could be the the next step after 60KK, even though the smallest size is a couple cups larger.
  I also looked up the measurements for Sf in 60KK, and they all measured around 14.8 inches. Since Sf is a sister cut, if you’re at the end of the range, you Fb could theoretically work for you.
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EM Bra Styles (I'm Sorry!)

I know this has been asked a million times and I promise I looked through like 6 pages trying to find this information....but what are the difference between Ewa's non-padded styles?
BM , SF , SM/SMN , 3DM , HM. I know many of you won't be able to answer specifically about the 3DM and HM, but I really would like ... to know the difference between the BM, SF, and SM/N. I am preparing to e-mail EM again and ask if they will make one of those three styles in my size instead of being forced to purchase the 3DM or HM style.
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- Check out the EM Style Guide on reddit:
  https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/7899nn/projectguideewa_michalak_style_guide/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage
- I asked for a 65D in BM or SF and they pretty much told me BM starts at 65E and SF at 65F and they cannot make 65D in either. So if you're in that range you might be out of luck. Never hurts to ask, though!
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Oct 25, 2018

Its pretty shocking how bad bra fitters can be. I came into a shop, tried on a couple of bras. The fitter kept insisting that the bra fits. Despite me obviously spilling out and having the band ride up.
Also i hate it when bra fitters just open the doors or curtains without asking first. Feels so intrusive and rude. I feel like im better off just trusting myself.

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- That's horrible, but all too common everywhere. They are all about the sales instead of the service. :-/
- The acronym I’ve seen on Reddit is SWAT. Sell what’s available today. They’re not going to tell you it doesn’t fit if they can make a commission on a sale now.
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Fun Bra-Fitting Seminar

I found this and had a really good time watching. The lady is quite a good bra-fitter and was quite fun to watch. I thought you all would get a kick out of it!

The Bra Fitting Seminar - Esteem Lingerie

The complete bra fitting seminar - all the things that they didn't teach women i

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuDeZHTjPt8&t=629s

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- @Sovavosi Your epiphany is mentioned in here!! :-)
  
  Okay so she states Underwire and bridge are 75% of your support, with 20% coming from the band......I honestly don't think any of my bras do this.... :-/
  But I can see that IF this was a reality for most women then Ewa's band logic would work. But seriously, more immediate projection in most cups would be needed for me to be convinced.
  
  I love the theory, & the link is awesome @LeProfessor, sadly I don't think most manufacturers follow this within their designs.
- I'm at work so I can't watch it now, but I'm looking forward to coming back to it later.
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Really Ewa, 31" 60 bands?

I got in my two BMs today and both bands stretch to almost 31". I really don't know why she is deciding to make them longer, but as someone who actually really could use a 26 band this is depressing. Both of the bras are probably going to be unwearable without me cutting the bands down, and I don't have the skills to do that. Maybe next time I should just order a 70HH because that wouldn't be custom order. 🤬

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- @Sovavosi, it might be worth emailing Kaska photos of the two bands stretched next to a measuring tape. I would use a rigid metal measuring tape. Your bras could well be errors. I was once shipped an order of three bras, two of which were the wrong size. Each of the two was a different wrong size. Ewa said to ship them back and she would send out the correct bras and credit me the return shipping cost. She did.
- @Sovavosi as you move into the larger cups of Ewa's 60 bands, unfortunately you'll find this is common. When I complained to Kaska earlier this year (late last year?) she told me that in order for me to get them smaller I would have to go to Poland and have Ewa measure me personally.
  I sent photos including bra on ones but Ewa wouldn't budge with it in this cup range.
  "They need enough band to support and not displace the wires" is the theory I was given. Complain too much and she will stop making the range, for the same readons she won't do the 55 bands in the larger cups, as in her mind they "won't work.".... . :-/
  
  My order should be here next week so we'll see how my bands are in comparison. It will include the same two bras you ordered in 60KK plus PL Dark Magenta 60L and BM Scarlet in 60KK.
  
  Out of curiousity, how long are they unstretched? How does La Gloria compare to Crazy both stretched and unstretched since it's the same material? Are the wires the same width?
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Learn something new every day

I just figured out if I pull the top part of my boob near the strap into the cup, the bra fits better. I was told by a fitter the top slope of my boob wasn’t breast tissue so I always left it to be squashed under the strap. I thought armpit scoop was just the part near the wire. 😬

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- @Sovavosi, I learn new things constantly, too!
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Fun video on Ewa's site

I was just browsing on Ewa Michalak's site the other day, taking a look at some bras I may be interested in, and I happened to spot this cute video at the bottom of the SMN Fetysz Czarny page. It's Ewa showing us how to adjust the multiple straps on the SMN Fetysz Czarny, and the lovely Ulla (Ula?) is ... translating into English. I just thought it was really cute, and it's also where I learned that "Fetysz" is pronounced just like "Fetish" in English! Who would've thought 😆 Make sure to watch to the end for the bloopers!

https://www.ewa-michalak.pl/product-eng-1331-SMN-Bra-Fetysz-czarny.html
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SMN Bra Fetysz czarny

https://www.ewa-michalak.pl/product-eng-1331-SMN-Bra-Fetysz-czarny.html

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- I didnt finish it, but it is cute!
- They are funny! I felt at moments like I was watching a safety presentation by airline attendants, except about bras :)
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2-hook Extenders for Ewa Michalak bras?

I'm sorry, as this seems like an easy and basic question, but have y'all found 2-hook extenders that fit EM bras?

I just got in my order of 55FF/G-60F/FF and their bands are unsurprisingly all over the board, my 60F M-cut barely stretching to 24" as the extreme example. (I wish I had known how tight the bands would ... be - I wouldn't have had to order custom sizes on most of these)

I have some extenders, but they're too short and pull the hooks and eyes at an angle. I'm looking on amazon and none of the extenders seem tall enough, and many don't list the measurements that can tell me if they would fit.
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- fwiw, my 3-hook extenders are not a perfect fit, but they are elastic and they do ok. maybe if you can find elastic 2-hooks that are close, it'll work
- Rixie clips can also double as extenders, do you have one of those to try?
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To be (shallow), or not to be...that is my question

So, I’m not sure if I should post this as part of a fit check or not, but as I have not posted the review of this bra yet, I’m going to hold off and hope maybe someone can help me with my conundrum. I recently got a 65F Ewa Michalak SM Wrozka. It’s a bit small but not hugely ... small. But it’s a little bit wrinkled at the wire, indicating that it’s too shallow. It does feel like the wire is just below my IMF, but when I take the bra off, the wire marks appear to follow my root and IMF pretty well. I knew it would be ok on the sides with cup width, but on the cup depth, I’d kinda thought that the lines would be a little bit lower. And I just don’t see it. Any idea what’s going on here?
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- If you hold the bra horizontally with the bra cup pushed out, what’s the angle on the bottom look like compared to another cut?
- Photos would definitely help! In most bras wrinkling happens for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it's actually the strain on the cup structure from a breast that is heavier and more projected than it can handle. Also few breast roots EXACTLYYYY match the neat geometric shape and the precise location of a bra wire so if you are a bit wider set than the wires for example, that can also do it, even if the bra is shoving your boobs a little closer together with the wires effectively sitting relatively close to your IMF.
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Oct 07, 2018

Rant about being small

I felt so insulted when the bra fitter told me to try push up bras because my boobs were really small and apparently wide set.
So far my experience with bra fitters has been terrible. They'll try to persuade me to wear a 32B even when im spilling out. They'll just try to loosen the straps and ... put me on the loosest hook. I wear a 26/28 band.
Most of them ive encountered are just trying to sell me the bra but not care about the fit. Furthermore, from where I'm from 32 is typically the smallest band. And most brands only have A or B cups. C and D only for larger bands.
There's been so many movements related to plus size women etc. But.. nobody cares about the tiny girls that can't find tiny bras that fit. Clothes even. I've spent most of my teens searching for clothing stores that have clothes in size UK 4 and below.

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- I can definitely relate to this. This is why I want to someday create my own shop and make my own clothes and lingerie that will be available in every possible size. UK 4 is extremely rare to find where I am, even 6 is rare, most shops start at 8 if not 10 and bra shops start at 32 for the adult sections, 30 in rarer cases. I haven't ever been for a professional bra fitting because I feel they'll just be like "come back once you've got something to measure" or ask where my mum is or just stick me in a teens 28AA.
- Yes, bra fitters tend to be terrible. Its so hard to find a good one.
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Oct 06, 2018

Got my first Ewa Michalak bras, and they fit well enough. (Don’t feel like typing up my full reviews again) Since I’m at the top of the size range for CHP, I’m thinking about getting Xoxo, because if my boobs grow again, I won’t be able to wear it. I might also get Sf Kicia and either Sf Kobalt or ... Royal Blue (can’t decide) Also, how does the Pl cut run? I’m thinking about getting the “bralette” for my birthday and Dark Magenta first. <a href="/@mamapagan" class="mentioned-item">MamaPagan</a> Do you need to size up for the Pl cut compared to CHP? (I’m a 60K)
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- I do size up for the PL. Or more realistically I size down for the CHP, haha!
  For me it's:
  CHP 60K
  
  BM & SF 60KK (She won't do a 60L in either currently & some run smaller pushing the lace to max capacity)
  
  PL 60KK (I get quadding &/or center spillage in the 60KK. I have a Dark Magenta in 60L on order to see if it is a better fit, but I fear it will end up being gapy instead. )
  
  S 60KK-L (really depends on the model and my cycle. )
  
  I really love all the styles and go through waves of which my favorite is.
  
  Please do full reviews when you get a chance so that the information will be available for everyone's benefit. :-)
- Thank you! I don’t have a measuring tape atm, so that’s why my I didn’t add measurements.
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Sep 27, 2018

Just wanted to give a HUGE thank you to the Bratabase community!! With your help, I moved from struggling with bras and my body, wearing AAs until they fell apart, and padded sports bras, to successfully fitting into 32C/34B/36A! Never in my life would I ever have thought I could ever fit anything but AA, even while pregnant lol. But ... with the right size and style I now have a proper fit for my frame. I mean, I am still almost flat as a board, but the cups fit smoothly across the top of my chest, and all breast tissue sits flat against the inside of the cups without gapping. Wires sit where they are supposed to and straps adjust well.

My main issue was trying to buy pushup bras, but without any tissue to push up, it lead to gaps at the top of the cups. With help from mamapagan, and the Bratabase community, I have found that half cups, demis and halter style lace bras suit me the best. I now have 4 or 5 bras that fit well which I am slowly adding to the database, and am listing the ones that don't fit ... That way I can make room for more that fit

Thanks again for all of the help and support!!
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- Woohoo! So glad you found ones that work great for you!! <3 :-)
- Eeek, I'm so excited :D Let the bra hunt begin. I'm still on a student budget, but at least I can fit some more common styles to look in buy and sell groups. Still marveling at the 9 bra lot I got for $25, even if only a few actually fit!
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Nervously awaiting new bras...

I really need to be more disciplined with my bra shopping or I'll have to swim through a sea of bras to get around my house eventually. I already can't fit them all in my drawers and I don't even think I've got that many... yet!

But I got an email earlier to say my new Comexim bra is on the ... way!

I ordered a size 50F/24E purely just to try out a Polish 24 band as I've yet to try this and find my bras stretch out far too quickly. Maybe buying 24 and using an extender at first might prolong bra life for me. It doesn't look like they offer cups under this size(?) so I assume this will be too big, but I chose a bra with cups that would be easy to alter.

I originally planned on trying Ewa and sent an email to place an order but I was then asked if I'd previously had bras from there, which I hadn't, and so was asked to give my measurements. When I gave these, Kaska said that '60 would be tight enough' which is also what I'd get using the +4 method. I've heard their bands run tight for some, so this could be perfectly fine for me as she says, but I can't find definite evidence of this and wasn't confident enough to continue the order, especially since it's so pricey and either size would be custom and non-returnable for the bras I wanted.

So, I went with Comexim! I emailed to check they still made 24 bands which they confirmed and said to just order any size and leave the desired size in the checkout comments. However, they also asked me to provide my measurements along with this, which I didn't do as I was worried they'd also put me at a 60. It doesn't appear any Comexim bras in 50F have been added before, so I'll be interested to measure this. Anyway, now I'm probably more nervous than excited wondering if my custom size got honoured or not. Let's hope someone wants a 65D if not!

I've also been looking at (and buying) French bras lately. To my surprise I noticed that a few French brands offer 26A in their children's/ teen range. Not that it's of any use to me, but I've never seen a 26A bra around before. I can't be completely sure about some brands, they are all French brands so this is only assuming they're using French sizing where 70 = 26, but the size guide certainly seems this would be correct. I'll see if I can obtain some of the 26A bras from different brands to measure as I imagine there's little data on this size around.

I'm still very interested in trying The Little Bra Company. I'm due to visit the US soon, hopefully early next year. I'm wondering if there's any physical stores or stockists where I could go in and try some on? Hopefully so!

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- I am so excited for you! It will be wonderful to have 24 bands added to the database!!!
- @MamaPagan Thank you! If it all goes well and they work for me I'll be getting more!
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