What would you choose?
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1. Coughing
2. Neck pain
3. Wires on breast tissue
4. Stop wearing bras
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Take your pic
1. Coughing
2. Neck pain
3. Wires on breast tissue
4. Stop wearing bras
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A while ago I posted a guide to the Freya Deco Range, and I figured a repost on here wouldn't hurt! Please do comment if you have anything to add to the sizing; I don't own all the Deco's so I can't be 100% accurate.
http://petiteplentiful.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-guide-to-freya-deco-range.html
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Maybe I just have weird boobs, but I actually haven't needed to size up in the cups, at least not in the two versions of the Deco I've tried.
I wear my usual Freya size (32E) in both the Deco Honey and the Deco Half Cup, and they both fit well, neither quadboobing nor gaping. My breasts are even (2/5), fairly firm, and self-supporting, which may have something to do with it.
(32E is my size in non-Deco Freya half-cup bras; unlined Freyas are too narrow/deep, but a 32E is the closest I can get to a fit in them.)
If only Freya would make a version of the Deco plunge that combined the wide wires of the Deco Half Cup with the un-Freya-ishly firm band of the Deco Honey. That would be the perfect molded bra for me.
I definitely think your even fullness has something to do with them working well. You lucky girl you.
Perhaps the Masquerade's half cups work for you? Tight band, wide wires.
So, the Deco Honey band is tighter than the regular Deco's?
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Why do big boob bloggers seem to always hate reductions?
In my world - I had at least a 21" difference between band and apex measurements. I don't know if you can find that now even, but 10 years ago, there was absolutely nothing. I was having serious medical problems that couldn't be corrected.
I find reductions the same as any ... plastic surgery. Frequently unneeded or for personal vanity only, but some have a medical reason. Sure, make sure you are wearing the right bra first - but if someone isn't happy in a 34GG, and has a reduction to 34DD and is happy, that's her issue. Those aren't my boobs and I don't have to live with them. Furthermore, if anyone wants dancing elephants on their chest for fun, go right ahead.
But the rampant hate ignores those who medically need a reduction. I'm at 34FF or so, it's not like I'm an A cup. But I'm no longer destroying my back, screwing up my neck, compressing nerves and blood flow which lead to 3 years of constant migraine hell.
Would a properly fitted bra have helped? Got me. But there is still no bra that works for a 21"+ cup difference. So I couldn't wear a well fitted bra, they didn't exist and I can't find one now.
I never hated my boobs. I hated the migraines. I hated wearing men's 4XL shirts to barely squeeze over my chest. I hated not being able to work, go to school, play music. But, it was never hate on the boobs.
Maybe I'm part of 5% who had a medical need. But I think it's higher, especially if you go through insurance. But still, be it 5, 25, 55 or even 0.5% - it ruins the majority of big bra blogs. Because I know I'll be told to have worn a real bra, then I'd have been fine.
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I'm planning on blogging about this for bratabase soon, but I had a reduction and they came back. I do agree that a lot of people are vehemently against reductions without knowing all of the facts.
How is it that large breasts can cause migraines? I get migraines all the time, I wonder whether it is related to my boobs? But I am much smaller than you were, only 13" difference between underbust and standing bust.
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Does Claudette run big or small? If I'm a 34GG in curvy kate can I fit into a 34G claudette sizes?
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Claudette is better for full on bottom and Curvy Kate is better for full on top, so chances are a 34G in Claudette will be a huge fail since it would probably cut in even in 34GG if they made that. If you're 34GG in Curvy Kate, my guess is that you'd need 34H or 32HH (in theory since they don't make those sizes) in Claudette. You can try a 38G and take in the band, that might work.
Jillsas Thank you for responding, I guess I'll opt out of getting stuff from claudette. Thanks for the advice! :)
So my husband (and I, to a lesser extent) records videos for youtube that of him(/us) playing video games, usually called a Let's Play. It's a pretty popular thing right now. I mainly support him and help him with some of the techie stuff, including researching and buying him a good microphone for his hobby.
Well, it was a GOOD mic, ... but it didn't come with a pop filter. Basically a pop filter is a little thing that goes in front of a microphone that 'filters' out the harsh "popping" sounds in P's and B's and some of the hissing in the S sound. It helps get a crisper sound. Instead of paying a bunch of money for a pop filter online, I found that I could make one with pantyhose and any circular-type metal object that will hold said pantyhose in place.
Today, in a stroke of genius, I had the perfect metal contraption to use for the pop filter -- an old underwire! I popped out the underwires on a figleaves bikini I got because they were insanely uncomfortable. It's not a total circle, it's a half circle, but it's totally wide enough and tall enough to work. I used one of those little pantyhose material "socks" that you're supposed to wear with flats and stretched it over the underwire.
See, I knew it would come in handy to save all those random, seemingly useful 'extras' from bra alterations and whatnot.
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I love this idea! :D My boyfriend and I have actually been talking about getting started with Let's plays as well, so I'm definitely gonna give this a try, thank yooou :) xx
Awesome, let me know how it works out for you! If you don't mind me asking, what games would you be doing let's plays of?
So I am pretty young and have large breasts compared to my slender frame. I generally feel pretty good about my body... Except my boobs. I kind of have a love hate relationship with them. Currently it's going more to hate as I have been discovering stretch marks on them. The stretch marks appear on the upper and inner portion ... of my boobs, making them visible to myself. They're only noticeable when my breasts are hanging loose, in either an ill fitting bra or when I don't have one on. I would love some advice on this issue. Should I just give up fighting and accept that I'll have stretch marks on my chest, or should I try and prevent them? I've on and off been using lotion, so should using that more fulltime be a good option? What products would you suggest? Also I tend to sleep without a bra or with a wimpy too small sports bra as it's more comfortable, is this increasing the stretch marks? Should I consider a sleep bra or just a better sports bra?
Sorry this is so many questions... I would love anyone's advice!
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Stretch marks occur during periods of rapid growth. The skin's normal elasticity is not enough to accommodate the change in shape of the underlying tissue and the skin stretches and tears. The scar tissue from this damage appears as stretch marks, so you'll want to treat them as scars. Lotions and the like may help, but it will mostly just take time for them to fade. Unless you're doing high impact activities with no bra at all, I wouldn't be concerned about your bra habits contributing to stretch marks. There's not much you can do to prevent them, except trying to avoid rapid weight gain. Often breast growth happens independently from changes in one's overall weight, so it's best to work at accepting your body the way it is.
First of all, don't be too worried about them since as @katmchugh13 has mentioned, they will fade over time. I was a late bloomer and have very faint stretch marks along the inside of my boobs. I can almost guarantee that everyone will encounter stretch marks on some part of their body, at some point in time, so it's nothing to be concerned about. They probably won't go away completely, so you will need to just accept them, but you can still do the following things to help the healing process and prevent/minimize the appearance of stretch marks:
1) Reduce sun exposure. Keep your stretch marks covered up from the sun. The sun will damage your skin and cause the marks to appear more noticeable since scar tissue is more sensitive than the rest of your skin. When you're at the beach, make sure to slather on the sunscreen!
2) Keep it moisturized, especially if you live in a dry or arid place. Coconut oil is a good moisturizer and many pregnant women claim it works on their growing tummies to reduce the appearance of stretch marks. Coconut oil can also be used as a general moisturizer for your body. If you are nervous about the grown ups telling you what you can and can't put on your body, just tell them you prefer to use this instead of body lotion. It's tricky dealing with parents/grandparents, but after all, you're just looking after your own body.
With that being said, it's probably not as bad as you think it is. You're young and your skin's regenerative ability is going to be awesome regardless, so just take care of yourself, stay hydrated and moisturized and apply that sunscreen liberally.
Good luck!
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I've started to use the medical descriptions.
Upper inner, upper outer
Lower inner, Lower outer
Tail of spence/axillary tail
It's very easy to understand that boobs full in the upper inner will quad quad quad (but possibly gape in the upper outer) and boobs fuller in the upper outer will gape gape gape. (But instead sideboob).
Full in the lower inner will project ... project project and full on the lower outer will be fat fat fat wide root.
And from here the idea about how a bra "was made" or "should fit" leaves this sad notion:
Bras made for full upper inner: Cleo, open top bras.
Bras made for full upper outer: fullcups.
As far as I can see this is how basic bra fitting works.
A lot of times I've said that full on bottom boobs projects more. That's true, if they are full in the lower inner. If full in the lower outer they don't have that much projection. Full in the lower outer will need side support panels and just as much cup depth as those full in the lower inner, but distributed way differently. Full in the lower inner will say they need "immediate cup depth". Just compare Panache Andorra Full Cup (5675) to Panache Jasmine (6951) and you'll see what I mean.
Full in the upper outer will consequently be the most shallow boobs often tapering up to collarbones. But a lot of people will say "your boobs are not full on top". Because when people judge breast shape for some reason they often exlusively look at the inner quadrants.
I want the full picture.
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I have a very full upper inner quadrant, and full upper outer, lower inner, and lower outer quadrants over a relatively small area. My tail of Spence goes up very high, much, much higher than my armpit almost to my shoulder. I think that tall/short tails affect fitting and aren't things which we talk about much.
Something which interested me though and I was almost tempted to make my own adventure but I thought was relevant here is I was in the bath the other day, and I noticed that my upper inner boob quadrant was the last to submerge if I lay flat on my back in the bath & slowly lowered myself down. I wonder if this would happen to everyone, or if it's related to boob fullness? Does anyone else even like to take baths? I do think upper inner is the fullest part of my boobs (just), but I don't know whether that's why it was the last bit above the water or if that was totally unrelated.
Hmm, how are Cleos supposed to be made for full upper inner..? Most (or at least a fair deal) of Cleo's bras seem to be balconettes that come quite high up and curve back, which at least for my full upper inner breasts means a definite quadboob.
But a very interesting picture and analysis! Again something I hadn't even thought about.
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Like those boobs you can fit 2 boxes of crayons under and they cant really be lifted - if you lift them they kind of fold up? -.-
I really have no idea what to do here, this person won't measure but will try on a bra if I get her one. Underbust I assess at 38 and I have ... no idea about the cup :/ They are so low they look like a part of her belly.
I don't even know where to start.
Does anyone have experience with this?
What works best? Molded, padded, cut and sew? What cuts?
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I had a (somewhat) successful bra intervention with one of my friends based on dressmakers measurements. She's a bigger girl, and was wearing a 16E (that's effectively Australia's 36DD by the way). She's one of my sister's bridesmaids and we're getting dresses made as part of the bridal party (because nothing else would fit me haha). Anyway, my sister and I decided enough was enough, and armed with her dressmakers measurements, we went and picked up some bras in 14G(36G) based on her 37" underbust and 45" bust, which are not terrible when she tried them on. As she's a bit heavy for her frame, her boobs aren't the most firm, so the standing measurement actually wasn't too inaccurate. I'd probably put her in a 34H based on how she fits those bras, but I know a lot of people freak out about tight bands and she doesn't have disastrous quadboob any more. My mum was happy, but then had to redraft her bodice. :P
So, I'd suggest working from a measurement in a bra, as it's going to be the most like how your friend's boobs will behave in a bra, even though it's not super duper accurate with a bad bra. Moulded/padded will probably be the most comfortable for her if she's used to moulded, and does kind of give you some shaping under a shirt, even though 'cut and sew' is probably better for actual boob shaping. It's like my EM bras vs Cleo Meg. I can have basketball shaped round things under my shirt, or I can have my boobs in an uplifted, more natural shape which is a little pointy. EM doesn't really do anything much in the support department, but it looks pretty great (and the straps on my Toffik kill me but I'm not allowed to alter that bra until after my sister's wedding in August), but Meg is supportive, if slightly pointy.
If humanly possible, grab a few cheapish bras around her size and try them out? It really depends on how keen she is to keep trying things out. Unless you can take her to a good shop which has a lot of things in her size range and keep trying them on, there's a lot of guessing involved in getting it right with anyone's boobs. Once you've got a better baseline, it's going to be much easier to figure out how to tweak it from there. While I'd get future bras for my friend around a 34H (like I said), going from 'I have no idea except she's smaller than me and bigger than my sister' to a vaguely correct size was the trickiest bit.
Ereshiy , Do you mean 16E is a 38E? or am I missing something? 38 is a 16 and as we do UK sizing up to F cups(in some brands), E is E? sorry to jump in, wasn't sure if you meant different or had a reason for saying it was equivalent to a 36DD.
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I was just wondering... When I watch movies and women suddenly start to show up in bras, I often get very distracted from the scene, because the fit is just so horrible (or even looks painful, in case of sports bras).
But shouldn't there be at least a few productions, maybe from GB or Poland with people in well-fitting bras? Did you ever see a well-fitting bra in TV/movies/...?
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There are a few in US TV, although they seem to be few and far between. On Showtime's Nurse Jackie, the intern in the most recent season was wearing a Cleo Marcie and Freya Lyla in different episodes - both well-fitted! It was awesome!
There's a video about how the bras are constructed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H51R2SBkJ_U
If I get this fitting buseness correctly, they are trying to put the bra model in the completely wrong and ill-fitting bra. No wonder there are so little women that wer the irght bras if even the professional bra designers have no idea how their creations should fit.
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I had a consultation with a surgeon Monday, and he thinks the lump looks benign under ultrasound but is doing a biopsy next week to be sure. He wants to avoid any more surgery if possible, it might be time to start looking for Panache Jasmine on Ebay
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(hugs)
I bet it will be OK. It's never a thing!
Too hard to choose! I'm tossing up between coughing and not wearing bras...
If 4 came without back pain, I'd opt for it for sure. I really don't care about social norms about things like body hair or bras.
Otherwise I'd take 3 because it seems the least painful.
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