Victory Balcony (9001)

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• I've been meaning to order Victory but I was really discouraged by Dottie's short straps. Their 30 band was fine for me on Dottie, but the straps pull on the band so much it has seriously stretched out and rides up like crazy.

  I do wonder if you would do better with Dottie though! The cups are considerably shorter than Victory (even in stock photos) and not so much full cup.

• The straps are very wide set on Dottie, though, almost as bad as this. So it might just be a Curvy Kate thing!

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  Dottie is a pretty bra especially that purple color, but looks like it stops at HH cup in all band sizes :(
  It looks great on you btw:)

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  CK was known for wide wires, and wide set cups yes, I thought they changed their shape a bit, like Victory is a new to CK 4 part construction but it has only changed that Victory is very roomy in the top cup and gives a better more round shape compared to old CK which gave me pointy upside 7 shape.

• I actually stopped wearing it due to the short straps. They were giving me so many headaches and neck pains that I just couldn't bear to wear it anymore. The bra is very beautiful, though!

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  Oh no :( Would longer straps solve the problem? like take longer straps from an old bra and replace them?

• Yes they would (I usually have strap length issues on pretty much any bra that is not custom made--I pay extra to have straps longer on my EM bras), but the colour is so particular I cannot find a good match anywhere for strap elastic :(

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  Would it help you if I measure the strap lenght on Victory when they are longest?

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  Yes true if you don't want to have the bra look like patchwork bra. Would be easier if it was the black Color...

  I never had the issue that straps were too long… must be so annoying.

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  I don’t know how tall and shallow you have to be to fit these. I don’t get it because on most instagrammers the fit is good! Maybe they are editing their pics or rearranging everything.

  Like, how is this possible? https://www.instagram.com/p/BnJHTyzB5Uz/?hl=en

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  Her arms are up in the air, though. Could also be Photoshop.

• Guys do you think 34J could work? I don't wanna give up yet. Band is too small so I size up but size down in cups.
  No one writes the size they wear on instagram so they could just pick the one that looks best on pics and in real life wear other bras. For a pic fit and comfort are irrelevant. I also could make this bra look better with adjusting the straps very short I wonder if I could make it look like it fits with posing.

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  Yes, or her hair is hiding that it’s too small. Looks like the gore tacks though. I don’t know it’s so short on her!!! How????

  https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl0PofJBhwF/?hl=en

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  The buying for science is a temptation several of us are plagued with. We must have all the pieces to our bra puzzle!

  Sorry it was such an ill fit. :-(

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  But if it’s too shallow with not enough center room, sizing down won’t help.

• I think it is too shallow at the centre. Why else would my boobs push the gore away?

• Oh I love to try more bras for science. I feel like I'm starting bra fitting all new. Everything that used to work does not work anymore. I wanna order some more bras. I have Panache Tango that somewhat works but I don't wanna wear only that one...

• did you consider EM? lace.de might deliver to you if you don't wanna order direct

• Ehm yes I had tried a few years ago when I was around 32K like now. I found the bra construction too weak in my size. Also ordering a hassle and expendive with all the paypal snd cudtom fees. At least they sell quickly ln here. I prefer to find british brand bras that work. I don't know could never get into EM hype.

• Arghh I cannot mention and edit when I type from my phone.

• That is understandable, especially if you feel it can't carry your weight.

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  I have very soft and heavy boobs. I need a bra that keeps them in and does as much support as possible with wires and band. If the bra just is a bit weak I can get terrible neck pain. Even Panache Floris is too weak now it is too big in the cups. Adjusting the straps very short to get rid of gaping does not make a bra less weak.

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  alisa I am just speculating about a cluster of fit problems that might be working together to create this epic support failure, tell me if this seems possible:

  - cup is so tall and wide that the wires on your side have no ability to brace (or "push back") against the ribcage, thus defeating the purpose of underwire bras -- and enabling the gore end of the wires to just go wherever your boobs push it with very little resistance
  - because CK designers tried to give it a cute bandless look with just a little stick joining the cups down at the base of the gore (instead of having at least a triangle of strong powermesh like a normal bandless bra), if the bracing effect of the underwire is lost due to wire width, the front of the bra loses even more stability
  - therefore the whole front of the bra, including the gore, tips forward very easily under the weight of the bust and the torque effect, even if the cups themselves theoretically have the depth needed to easily fit over the wearer's breast (as you can see when you force it to tack).

  If this is a possibility, perhaps a smaller cup size would allow the bra to at least have some functional stability because the crazy wire width problem might be solved.

  The question is HOW MUCH you would need to go down in cup size to get an acceptable wire width, and would that still allow enough cup depth to actually, you know, fit your boobs!

  I think there may be some hope for making it work in a smaller cup size and 34 band, because here while it looks like an acceptable depth for your breast tissue, in fact there is quite a bit of cup volume that is just not being used -- there is such a big portion of the bra that is being stretched round your sides instead of sitting where the boob is.

  The Instagrammer that was linked above, Fairyboobmother, is also in a FB lingerie group I'm in--she is super nice. If you wanted to ask her what size she wears in this bra and what she has observed about the fit I am sure she would answer, or if you have never talked to her I can go and find her name (which has slipped my mind but I know she has posted about her IG so it's not a secret/privacy thing) and ask her myself in the FB group.

• I took a picture holding up my arms. I just had to :D I forgot about the hair though which would hide how the straps cut off my arms. http://bra.pe/Imfa/
  My theory is you can make any bra look decent in photos, if the size is not too far off, like only 2-3 sizes too small or big.

• wendybien thank you for your comment! I love how you explained everything, and I think that is what is going on with this bra… the band even stretches the wire more to the sides since it's so tight. The cup depth of this bra is 39cm which is the same cup depth as in my Panache Tango that fits well. The difference between these two is that Victory is very tall and very roomy on top while Tango is moderately tall and more closed on top. Also the Tango has sturdy Panache wires that can are not stretched to my back.

  So is Victory not really a shallow bra? I also think it does not look shallow but behaved like a shallow bra at the wire and gore. If the wire weren't so distorted I would have even more extra space in this bra.

  I'm also worried about the whole bandless style, I never got along with bandless bras. The bra is a really cute design but they probably only tested in on smaller cup sizes.

  Like I said I find it fits kinda like I imagine a 30L. So if I sistersized that to a 34 band, I would wear 34K, but then I have to go down in cups like 2 sizes which would make me have to order 34J? Oh if only that 36HH that was added here was measured… so I could compare cup width of a sister size.

  Should I order another or should I not? I'm really really curious so no other way to find out. Ha I love to try bras for science. My wallet does not love the shipping costs ;(

• alisa brastop has a sale going on today..I think ... So maybe that'll help?

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  alisa can you pay via PayPal and use their returns reimbursement option? That’s what I do if there are no free returns.

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  Your arms up pics...wow. I need to remember that when looking at insta. You don’t even need to photoshop, it’s all in the posing.

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  Frazzleberry thanks I got this Victory bra in their sale, now they got even 1-2£ cheaper than last week :)

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  cupandahalf I can use free Returns in PayPal, 12 times a year and no more than 3 times in 1 month. I almost forgot about that. Yaay!

  I'm just not used to buy so many bras, haven't done that in a while so I feel a bit "bad" for buying so much :D

  Yes instagram is not good for bra fitting just promoting sales of the bras by having them look good no matter what. Good that we have bratabase for fit issues. I also think a few popular instragram bloggers are in too small bras, just to fit into a size range of a brand,but would need a bigger cup for proper fit. The bras never look like they are too small though.

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  The only bra fit photos I trust are the ones on btb! lol

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  alisa the way a bra looks to fit in photos is often very dependent on lighting, I think it was MamaPagan who showed her photos in different lighting that were a stark difference in fit despite being taken one after the other.
  In my photos some of my issues are often very hard to see... I quad in near every bra I try due to my freakishly tall roots, despite being pretty FOB, yet it is extremely hard to see that in photos!

• brasaremean I even try to make my photos so that the issues I describe are visible. Sometimes I take photos where I make a bra look better but then I write it down, like that arm holding up pic or when I strangle my arms with super tight straps to get rid of cup wrinkling.

  I wonder if my roots are really tall for my size? I mean I don't have any data to compare. How tall has a tall root in size 32K to be? :S Back in the day everyone told me I need tall deep cups and they worked. Last week I got 4 bras I couldn't fill the top, I'm confused :S

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  The example brasaremean mentioned:
  https://www.bratabase.com/picture/dpbi7/
  :-)

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  alisa looking at these pictures and the Bravissimo ones I wonder if your shape has changed and you’re now more short rooted. Medium roots?

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  alisa Our breasts are ever changing, and I swear when I think I've figured mine out, they up and change again. I am currently between sizes for the main brand I wear. One cup is painfully small but I get the dreaded wrinkle in the next cup up. Yet it's still better than any other brand for me, as the options are quite limited. :-/
  I feel your frustrations amd pain.

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  That is what I gathered from her fitting help request cupandahalf. Unfortunately with weight loss come breast shape changes and what would have worked before might no longer work.

  MamaPagan those are the ones! Thank you :)

  alisa I genuinely try to make the fit issues obvious in photos but they just won't show :/

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  alisa I just went to look at some of your old bras (I hope you don't mind). So for this photo ( http://bra.pe/IQYl/ ) I would definitely say you lost some upper fullness. This happened to me too after some weight loss over the past year (I went from 83kg to about 74 right now). The more weight I lost, the more FOB I got, which was really annoying to me because I genuinely felt like my breasts were full all over and what worked before (even in the wrong size, as much as that can work) stopped working after that weight loss, and prompted me to actually start looking into this whole a bra that actually fits thing.

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  Wow, comparing those two bras, especially the angled views, really shows your weight loss and shape change! You are still full on top but your breasts start lower on your chest.

  Let me think about what might work well for you keeping this in mind.

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  MamaPagan thanks for the pics :)

• You're welcome :-)

• brasaremean No no I don't mind. I had this floris since 2014 when it fitted and it fitted again for few weeks during my weight loss journey. 2015-2018 when I was at my heaviest weight, was my easiest time in bra fitting. I just wore Bravissimo 34L bras. When I wore one to death I just could order another in that size and it worked. I felt a bit sad about it today but I'm also excited to try new bras :) Interesting about how weight loss can change boob shape and how we need to fit ourselves.

• cupandahalf could one change full on top boobs to full on Bottom? I kinda think it could not be possible? Maybe change from full all over to more full on top / bottom? I have shorter roots now probably medium for my size, I lost a lot of upper and side fullness.

  Today I almost cried when I put on my 30K Tango with extender. I had zero quadboob. I even thought I forgot to scoop in side tissue and did it again 2 times but everything fitted so well I was shocked. I was so thankful for the support of this bra. I made the mistake of wearing 32K floris last week when I also had a migraine and it made everything worse by being unsupportive and gave me neck pain. Tango keeps my boobs in place and holds them up. I thought if everything fails, I can get another 32JJ Tango. But on the Bravissimo website they complain about quality issues and new Tango colors apparently have weaker wires and wires popping out after a few wears. What did Panache do to this bra!? :(

• You can always order the old colourways on ebay and such

• MamaPagan you are the expert here on polish bras and Ewa Michalak, would you recommend any of those for me? I had tried 2 comexim, and 3 EM bras years ago, they did not work. (fit was off) but what kept me from exploring some more was that I found them to weak to support my boobs. I also prefer british brands as they are easier to buy and return for me.

• brasaremean yes I know, I love eBay. There isn't as much there nowadays but one can still get bargains occasionally.

  On Bravissimo new in I found this lilac colorway: https://www.bravissimo.com/products/tango-bra-bluebell-pn53bll/ sooo pretty I always wanted a bra in this color, they call it bluebell, I love bluebells :)

• I love! the new lilac/periwinkle/bluebell colourways!
  Bravissimo also has Stella plunge and CK has the lilac one. Beautiful colours

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  I wouldn't call myself an expert since we are all learning every day, but I have tried quite a few. I wouldn't recommend Comexim unless you want to switch the wires as they will not serve you well.

  With Ewa, I would think her FB line might give you the support you need while still providing you comfort, but would recommend going with one that has the stretch lace to adjust the fit better. dbmamaz has tried a few of the FB models, and her input would be very valuable here.

  From what I've read about the line, the bands and cups run small, so double check the sizing before leaping forward though.

  Aside from the FB, I'd suggest the SF line as it is more supportive than the BM but more flexible with fit than the SM.

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  alisa I remember your EM adventures (which were indeed failures in terms of support) and I would say that it could be worth at least examining cup measurements here or contacting them to ask questions about wire length, wing height etc. in an appropriate size, since they now make more high-coverage cups, which are more supportive on a full AND tall breast shape like your own (perhaps not as tall as before, but you still have some pretty solid, projected boob height that needs support). I think you would definitely want to make sure you were trying the designs with the most robust materials and appropriate height at the gore and on the sides, because those features are very important to get a nice, stable, secure fit.

  Re: changing degrees of "full on top"/"full on bottom"-ness, you can absolutely experience a big change in breast shape and proportions at the same weight if your body composition and breast composition has changed. Let's take an example of a young lady who goes from 65kg at age 18, to 85 at age 22 and then back to 65 at age 25. Same breast volume overall at 18 and 25. Well, if she was like me at 18, a good proportion of her breast was composed of nice soft fluffy fat, which often sits on the upper pole of the breast. Now let's say that her massive weight loss from ages 22 to 25 was related to the fact she took up a strenuous sport (thus increasing muscle mass and reducing her body fat % to at least a little bit less than what it was at age 18, and meanwhile also experiencing further growth of the actual glandular tissue because she is one of those people who gets breast growth in her 20s). Now she is 65kg once again but her boobs at 25 will have a much higher proportion of glandular tissue and less fat. So she could have lost a great deal of the fluffy fullness she had on the upper pole of the breast when she was a teenager, while still having roughly the same breast volume, and she will now also likely find that her breasts now are heavier and denser requiring even more serious support than before--because glandular tissue is heavier than fat.

  (My considered opinion about the Full on Top/on Bottom descriptors anyway is that they are not complete shape descriptors. For a meaningful description, other proportions need to be considered together with those FoT/FoB qualifiers. People use them loosely and interchangeably with various terms suggesting more or less breast height, but if you use them strictly, a person with a very very full upper boob shape may fit into the most closed-on-top, small-cup-height bra if the projected part of her breast is simply not very tall and she has more of a "b" boob shape (round full shape that ends abruptly on top and no tapering tissue going up towards collarbone). Meanwhile another super-full-on-top shape person could be utterly unable to fit any but the tallest and most open-on-top cups (a bit like the blogger BrasIHate who coined these terms) due to the unusual height of the full, projected part of her breasts. So, yes these are helpful terms but they only tell part of the story.)

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  alisa dbmamaz has a few Tangos and she thinks they are good quality in a similar size to yours, so I think it's ok to try maybe?

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  I was waiting for this comment wendybien , you explain it best. I kinda remember having this weight/shape changes discussion before...

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  brasaremean oh yes by now I have a lot of practice singing that tune
  :-D I was a bit afraid to mention it the first time years ago because people REALLY loved having these terms that they thought would be the key to all kinds of fit dilemmas. Fortunately nobody got mad so I have mentioned it again many times since!

• I'm sorry everyone I answer so late. I appreciate everyones comments. :)

  MamaPagan thank you for your recommendations. I have added a SF and FB on my wishlist. I don't know if I would be sized out of SF depending of how it runs compared to UK sizes. THe biggest size they make is 75K.
  I will avoid comexim, the bras were too weak, my boobs would fall out of them. I don't think it's worth it as long as I have other options.

• alisa They often make sizes larger than what's listed. My size is never listed (60KK-60L) as available, not even under custom, but they still make it. It just requires an email order instead of a web order, and of course custom sizes are never returnable.
  @dbmamaz still wears Panache so she could assist with knowing how they compare in this size range. I would definitely speak with her before ordering.

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  wendybien thank you for your comment. It was very helpful. I re-read BrasIHate''s master post again http://brasihate.blogspot.com/2013/02/clarifying-breast-shape-full-on-top-vs.html and with your comment it helped me clear the confusion.
  I still do have a full on top shape by definition of this post. Also combined with tall root but not extremly tall like you described. I can wear a Panache Tango in the right size without overspill and that is not a bra that is recommend for FOT shape. But I lost some fullness with my weightloss going from 34L /36K to 32K which was fluffy fat I had on the sides and the upper boob. (When at 34L I decribed my boobs are full on in all directions :D Also I would fill the cup to the wire and top in 34L selina, no empty spaces ever. ) I think the bras I tried recently were too big in the cups, I don't have so much upper fullness to have to size up 2 sized in Bravissimo compared to Panache and CK Victory is just weirdly sized. I have a 34J on it's way just to satisfy my curiosity and for bra science.

  What you think, should I open a new adventure about weight loss / bra size changed so everyone can share their stories? I think it would be easier to find, than your talk here on a bra review. Valuable information can be found easily by search and we could link the adventure if the topic comes up again?

• I think that's a great idea alisa . Almost everyone deals with that at some point and it's one of the rare fit issues that seems to affect every single size range in terms of the way it will shake our confidence in fitting ourselves. Plus, changes in weight, size, body composition or reproductive situation are FAR from emotionally neutral so we often need all the help we can get in those situations.

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  wendybien I will let you know when I opened the new adventure, so you could add your very imformative comments from here there too. I don't know when I get to it in the next days. I will also do a new adventure of my bra trials and fails so there is not too much off topic stuff on this review here.

• Thank you, yes, reminders are a good idea--the brain cells I wore out thinking about bras seem not to be renewing as fast as they used to hahaha! If I don't post on it promptly, feel free to send me a PM--sometimes I miss a notification if there are lots on the same day.

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Rio Ruffle Bikini Top (CS3001)

Full review on my blog! But here's a summary...

The bikini is a gorgeously vibrant turquoise/deep aqua colour (although this is officially described as 'jade') and the cups are edged in a heathery purple. The ruffle along the edge of the cups is a pretty feature and gives the bikini a feminine touch. The ruffle also continues along the back of the bikini which is a nice attention to detail.

The lightly padded cups are generous and I found the 32K to be a good fit, although the sides came up too high under my arms so it was rather uncomfortable. However the cups themselves were lovely ... and deep, which suits my boob shape very well.

The band fitted really well and I think the 30 would have been too tight for me.

I struggled a little with the clasp at first but soon got the hang of it. I think it must do up in the opposite way to my other bikinis!

The straps adjust fully but I found even this was not enough for me - they really are very long indeed.

All things considered, I will be returning this bikini top for a 32J, just so I get a better uplift and hopefully less digging in under my arms.

Such a great bikini begs the question for me as to why Curvy Kate don't make padded bras in larger cup sizes - surely similar principles apply for bikini tops and bras? Fingers crossed this is something they will look into in the future.
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Bardot Balcony Bra (SG3101)

I found this bra on Zulily and decided to try it after hearing about how narrow and projected it is. I personally don't agree with either of those statements.

I find the wires to be way too wide (almost an inch and a half wider than my Ewa Michalak SM bras). It is also shallow enough at the bottom that the cup visibly collapses and has empty space. I love the look of the bra, and its much prettier than I expected. I'm a bit dissapointed with the fit though.

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• I agree in our size range curvy kate is not narrow and deep .

• Ivp I knew that in general CK is usually wide in our size range, but I had heard good things about this particular model. I guess UK brands version of narrow and projected is still not narrow and projected enough for me

• Darn! It is a pretty bra. Hopefully you can still get some use out of it :)

• I think in the G-H size range ppl have been saying that. oh well, glad you tried so I didnt have to!

• Yes it looks very tall, wide and shallow-based in this size range. I'd be curious to see measurements to compare it to other brands.

• In the 30H it is significantly narrower and deeper. apparently it is not true in different size ranges

• wendybien I added measurements. I'm very short rooted, so I'm not sure if its a tall cup or if it just looks tall because its on me. The width measurement is definitely wider than my other bras but it also doesn't take into account how soft the wires are. The unstretched band measurement is mostly cup, so with the soft wires there's some wire distortion (I even tried it with an extender and that doesn't help). So it fits wider than it measures if that makes sense

• Sounds like the stretchy band and soft wires are exacerbating this problem then.

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Princess Balcony Bra (CK6001)

I have a full review of this bra on my blog http://curvywordy.blogspot.com/2012/01/curvy-kate-princess-in-wine-and-in.html

In summary it is a lovely bra but sadly it was not a good fit for me in band or cup in the sizes I tried. I am hoping to try other sizes though as I think my correct fit is still out there somewhere!

It's a very pretty style with polka dot cups (the dots have a velvety feel to them which is very tactile) and the lower half of the cups is double lined for extra support.

The cups were too wide for me - my preference is definitely for a narrower but deeper cup.

The central gore laid flat on me and the underwires did not poke at all.

Overall a very comfortable bra despite being the wrong size.

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Princess Balcony Bra (CK6001)

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Wonderfull Full Coverage Bra (CK018102)

• Aww, I'm sorry about your bra troubles 😭. This does look really nice on you, though!

• Thanks for the review!

  Have you tried Bravisssimo yet? The one thing I consistently like about this brand is how their wires end about an inch short of the ends of the wire channels so I never have the significant poking that Curvy Kate or Panache give me. I especially appreciate their new narrow wired bras although not all of them work well for me. Their semi annual sale has just started and they have included a few of their narrow wired bras and I see one that is close to 20% off.

• I haven't tried Bravissimo's own bras yet except for their Nova Lounge bra. I've found Bravissimo orders to take up to a month to get to me, and international shipping has been taking even longer since the pandemic started.

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Lola Babydoll (SG1907)

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Lottie Balcony Bra (CK1601)

I will write a review of this bra for my blog in due course but for now here is a brief summary.

I LOVE this bra - it is so simple and pretty. I was longing for it to work for me.

The top half of the cups are made from a sheer fabric with an embroidered edge which is very sexy. The candy pink bows and stitching are a girlie contrast to the elegant black and bring a bit of fun to the bra. The fabrics used are of high quality and feel wonderfully soft but durable.

The band is reasonably firm and the section between the ... cups is not stretchy.

The straps are narrower than some large cupped bras which makes a nice change. They are fully adjustable and have circular rings attaching them to the bra's band. There are three rows of three hooks and eyes.

Sadly it was no good for me in 32K as it was still too small in the cups and cut into my upper breast tissue. Interestingly, however, the cups were too wide, meaning that yet again I had found a bra which was too shallow for me.
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Emily Balcony Bra (CK5001)

I have a full review of this bra on my blog http://curvywordy.blogspot.com/2012/01/curvy-kate-emily-in-black-and.html

The 32K was too small on me in both the band and the cup, but not overly so. The band was fairly tight but wearable - my main issue was the fact that the tight-ish band stretched the cups so they seemed wider than they actually were. They ended up going right under my arms and almost to my back! Not good.

I definitely prefer narrow but deep cups and I am afraid Curvy Kate bras are not like this. They have wider cups which are on the shallow side (but not overly so), which makes me sad as the designs are so beautiful.

The cups did not poke or chafe, despite being so small on me.

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