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  1. Daily Dream Padded Balcony Bra (CK4501)

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    30H

    Didn't fit

    My acquisition of this bra was definitely the result of some advanced bra finagling!

    The first thing to know about the Curvy Kate Daily Dream is that it doesn't work well on full on top shapes. I tried this bra in a 30G initially, and my boobs were /spilling/ out the top. This has to do with shape and with size, I believe, as I would say that the Daily Dream runs a bit small in the cup. I really liked the bra, though, so I had to make the decision of whether I wanted to try a 30GG or 30H next, and my intuition said 30H, so ... that's what I tried.

    I'll be honest: volume wise, the 30H is a bit too big for me. But, with it being just a bit too big for me and with my incompatible shape, I made it work. So, yes I have a bit of quadding in this bra, and yes I don't quite fill up the bottom of the cups or the sides of the cups for more than just shape reasons, I think, but the bra still fits me well enough that I'm going to keep it!

    Anyway, aside from my trying to fit a round boob into a slightly differently round bra issues, I really like this bra! The material is super comfortable from the cups to the band to the straps. The bra is pretty nicely round; though, personally, I might like it to be a bit rounder.

    Something about the band length does feel a bit odd to me. I stretched it to 29 inches, but it still feels a little loose on me. It's not loose enough to warrant me moving on to the middle hook, though. I also think the band on this bra is kind of tall, but keep in mind that I'm 5'2 with a short torso for my height. The wires at the sides don't bother me, though.

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      Thanks for your review! I had the opposite problem of not filling out the top but being snug in the bottom of the cup. Apparently they made this bra for perfect center fullness!

    • Va va voom! That looks lovely! I can't even tell it required finagling!

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      I'm all about the finagling, it's the only way anything molded or padded is ever gonna fit me to be honest--there is no way for me to fill the bottom or sides perfectly in most cases.

      About this one--and don't laugh as I suggest even MORE finagling--I often have that strange sensation with the band when the straps are bearing more weight than they should. I wonder if you loosened the straps a good bit, and then lowered the band at the back to a horizontal position and tightened it by one row, if that might help with (a) feeling more secure wrt band support and (b) easing more of the boob mass into the cups. Then if straps feel TOO loose after all that even once you get the band lower and tighter, refinagle if needed by tightening them back up just a tiny tiny bit. I sometimes have to go through this process a few times to get everything finagled exactly right!

    • wendybien Gave what you said a try! I do sometimes tend to suffer from loosening-straps-a-phobia because of how short I am (I have exactly one bra that's straps don't adjust all the way, and I struggle with it every time I wear it). I also loved your usage of finagling, haha!

      My bigger boob is still not entirely thrilled by the top of its cup (and neither is my smaller side if I move my arm like how I do for side shot pictures), but my breasts do look more contained. The only odd thing is that there's a lot more space at the bottom of the cups and the gore is pulling away a tiny bit more. Oh, the joys of having very soft tissue breasts that seem to flow wherever they'd like. Thanks for the advice!

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      You're welcome bustyand ! I am smaller now thanks to age, babies and life stress (white hair, less boob volume, and wisdom, woohoo...) but for a good portion of my 30s was roughly the same size as you also with a very short torso. My advice with straps on a molded/contour/padded bra is absolutely look for every way to minimize the pull on them, even if it means a TON of fiddling and finagling back and forth to get each bra just right. The difference in fit and comfort is really significant especially if you wear the same bra often. Being projected in shape also makes a big difference-- I have noticed that if I go to a store with fittings, almost all the assistants, even the ones who fit you very competently, tend to overtighten straps on me because they don't expect me to need that little bit more ease, but I do, even now at a much-smaller boob size.

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  2. Luxe Strapless Bra (CK2601)

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    30J

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    I've previously tried the Bravissimo Contour strapless in a 30J, which was laughably small on me, giving both overspill and absolutely no lift or shaping, so I wasn't expecting much from this bra. But, shock of the century, this actually fits me reasonably well (at least based on my quick try-on)! The band seems to run on the firm side (possibly slightly under 30 inches), so combined with the smaller-than-my-usual-size cups and the grippy silicone, it's a little hard to put on properly, and I can't fully scoop and swoop, so keep that in mind for my review.

    My usual CK size is around a 30K (30JJ in Eden, ... 32J in Ritzy and Carmen), so I wasn't actually expecting this to work. As a strapless, this gives me an extremely round, nicely uplifted shape, despite technically being too small. I get minor overspill when worn strapless, which becomes much more obvious when I wear the straps (as the cups are lifted more). Being strapless, it's kind of like when you wear a too-small bra with loosened straps to hide it being too small - except in this case, the shape is still good. One problem I did notice was that the section of the band under the gore quickly rolled and flipped under itself. This wasn't particularly uncomfortable, and may be due to me wearing the wrong size, but I don't think it's how it should fit, and it could possibly lessen the bra's staying power.

    The bottom of the cups are too shallow for me, and I get slight buckling there, as well as being unable to pull the bra right up into my root. However, this isn't really too bad, and is more cosmetic than anything. I also find the sides are slightly too short for me, and I feel like I'm not properly contained, though I think this is exacerbated by this bra sitting slightly too low on me. In 1-2 cups up, I imagine I would be able to fully scoop into the cups, pull the bra up slightly more, and hopefully rid of the overspill. Overall, though, it's much better than I was expecting, so I'm fairly happy with it. It's definitely a very solid bra, and one to try if you're in the size range (or possibly even for those just outside, if you need a strapless and can't find one).

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      "Being strapless, it's kind of like when you wear a too-small bra with loosened straps to hide it being too small - except in this case, the shape is still good"

      This is a very valuable observation. Thanks for including this!

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  3. Victory Balcony (9001)

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    Didn't fit

    This bra is a disaster of scaling. It's tragic really because it could be a great bra, and it probably is in smaller sizes.

    Pros: Firm tts band, soft mesh reinforced at bottom would provide lift in better circumstances, good look as a naked bra and see through material would make it nude on a range of skin tones. It definitely exposes all my fit problems that are usually hidden by opaque fabric.

    Cons: wires are ridiculously wide and tall. Like Panache level stupidly wide and tall. No center room at all, making the gore destabilize at the bottom of the cup ... up. Not enough bottom room. A tent like upper mesh.

    Wearing this bra shows me what happens with wide gores/not enough center room. My firm center tissue pushes the gore away from my sternum. The gore does not tack, meaning the wires are not tensioned against my body properly. The bra sits on my stomach instead. The cups sit on my breasts rather than supporting them. The wires dig in, causing pain.

    You can also see my omega shape clearly. When balled up, my tissue is much taller than my roots, causing that omega fold in front of the armpit. My breasts almost fold back on themselves in this bra because there is not enough room at the apex/bottom/center. That's why I need great apex depth and narrow wires.

    I can't recommend this bra to someone of my shape in this size but I generally love the design. Ironically, my best fit is in 38K - Curvy Kate » Vegas Balcony Bra (CK5601) which works much better for my short roots and long boobs. If only CK could use Victory's fabric on the Vegas model! I would only buy that bra. I'm tempted to make my own when I have time and money to do so.

    Smaller banded and/or breasted women should not be alarmed! The fit looks quite good on models. They just did not test the fit on us big gals, which is a shame because I really wanted this bra to work.

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      That gore! Whoa, it is tall. It us remarkable how well Vegas fits vs Victory. I would have never guessed this fit was Curvy Kate by just looking at your photos. Strange scaling!

    • Oh my gosh. I never would have guessed CK either. Did they just... never try some sizes on real people?

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      What I mean is, why wouldn't you make trying on part of the design process when you put out a new model? Get a couple of ladies from the various size ranges and see what it looks like. To not do it just seems like taking shortcuts. Shame on them.

    • I'm still shocked by the 6" gore. Holy smokers! That is amazing in all the wrong ways for us short rooted bra wearers ; -)

    • calenlass it certainly does seem that they did not fit larger women, just scaled up a smaller pattern. Love4Pollinators you are right, I don't think I've ever experienced a gore this high.

    • Wow that gore height! I am not sure it would even suit someone with a long torso. I do not think CK is that great at scaling up...there are a lot of full busted women on Insta trying to wear CK and it never seems to fit.

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      But my best fitting bra is a CK 38K too! They actually do scale well, it's just this one isn't.

    • I think a lot of those gals on Insta are trying to wear Scantilly which only goes up to an HH cup when they are a much larger cup size. I know Fullerfigurefullerbust and CurvyWordy wear bras too small for them to get into that brand for instance.

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      fabulouslyfullfigure btw I'm not on Insta but I follow all your pics. Love your tummy love! Also really excited to hear your thoughts on that unlined Comexim.

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      Yes you are right cupandahalf ! Maybe it is the Scantilly mostly! Oh thanks on the tummy love...it has taken awhile to be comfy with it. The Comexim I ordered a little too large in the band but I can say I was impressed with the material quality! It is a beautiful bra and true to Comexim it is center full friendly and slightly taller cups. I think if I got the right size it would be awesome!

    • There has to be something off about the scaling on large cups in this bra. It looks like it is 2 cup sizes bigger than your 38K vegas bra. The gore is taller than the wing measurement? Makes no sense either.

    • It’s a crazy bra. I had hoped you would be tall and full enough to fit it, but no.

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  4. Tease Me Padded Bra (SG2001)

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    28DD

    Didn't fit

    First: Bratabase says this bra doesn't fit - the band is a bit too tight.
    I've been wearing this bra with an extender for the first few times. And now it does fit, so it stretched out a bit https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" /> But I think next time I will order a 30D.

    Well, what to say to this beauty?
    I'm in love with the Tease Me design. It's chique, sexy, reminds me of burlesque dance but really beautiful.

    I've always wanted the purple Tease Me and now brastop had it on sale for 10pounds only. My big chance.

    I don't regret it, the bra provides a really nice ... shape. I think this bra looks best when the cups are rather tight. Not too tight https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" />
    Then it does push without squeezing. I like.
    The braids at the cups can be seen a bit through a shirt, so if you don't like this, maybe cut them off or order another bra https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" />

    I don't mind, so I will keep the braids. So sweet, with the satin ribbon details!

    The wires tend to poke a bit in the sternum and on the ribcage. It was worse the first few times I've worn it, but now it's a lot better.
    But if you are really sensitive, maybe this bra isn't your best choice.

    Note:
    Fellow bra bloggers and bra communities have found out that with Curvy Kate you often have to go up one cup in bigger cup sizes!

    (In my sizing range this doesn't apply.)

    EDIT:

    I tried on this bra in the colour pink/black from 2011 and it was overall to small for me. I would definitely need a 28E or 30DD with this colour.
    So the sizing seems to vary with the different collections!

    The cups were didn't go up as high as the purple ones and the cups were overall smaller and more shallow.
    One word: nipplegate.





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  5. Victory Balcony (9001)

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    30GG

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    I know there has been a lot of hate for this bra but I actually quite like it! I like the silhouette it gives, and seeing as I'm 2 days pre period right now it explains the slight cutting in of the cups, but I am so so so in love with the tight band and the stretchiness of the mesh on top of the cups. Even the elastic at the tops is very stretchy and not as problematic as it usually is for me.

    At 30GG I'd say it's pretty true to size save for the band which I think runs a little tight (but really, just a ... little. For me, who is right between a 28 and 30 it's perfect.)

    The wires (as seen in pics) are on the wider side, but more and more I find this to not be a problem for me. My boobs are quite squishy and so the wide wires compensate for the shallowness of the cups.

    That being said, I think these cups are plenty deep--not as deep as say Jasmine, but definitely on par with my Ewa Michalaks... I could be wrong tho.

    One thing that bothers me is that the straps seem to lack any elasticity-- so I need them all the way loose because I don't like them tight, but then they kinda fall off when I move. So yeah.

    I had some issues initially getting the gore to tack but then it magically did...I have no idea what happened there.

    I think if I got this in 30H it would have been too large but who's to know... If I come across a cheap one in that size I might get it just to see. But overall I am very happy with this bra.

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      I love how it looks on you, smashing colour!

    • Thank you! The colour was literally the deciding factor for me!

    • Looks nice on you!

    • Thank you!

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      This looks fabulous on you, and the color is totally awesome. :)

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  6. Vegas Balcony Bra (CK5601)

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    This bra features one of the loveliest and craziest prints I have ever seen and I fell in love with it immediately.

    The bra cup a a three part cup with the bottom and outer part being laminated (though it is not the same fabric as in Gia, which felt smoother and even more sturdy), black with flamingos and colourful flowers. The top part is black mesh with pink elastic on top.

    The bottom of the cups and band is lined with pink elastic lace and there are matching pink bows at the gore and straps.

    Like the Ellace bra, the bra feels like it would be good for nursing ... with the stretchy top part of the cups.

    I am happy with the fit of the cups. Compared to older Curvy Kate models, the wires don't feel as insanely wide and there is more room for central fullness.

    The band fits true to size in my opinion, which means now that I'm in between sizes I sometimes prefer to use an extender.

    I also purchased the matching Brazilian briefs in size 8 - they fit similar to other CK bottoms, which run generally on the larger side in my opinion.

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      That is such a fun print!

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      This is my favorite looking bra. I own two. :)

    • Gorgeous!!

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  7. Madagascar Balcony Bra (CK3701)

    Madagascar is supposedly based on the Bardot, but more open on top and less depth at the underwire IMO. Best for short roots needing decent projection. Band is true to size. Material isn't super soft but isn't scratchy either. Thankfully the animal print is understated as it's not really "my thing" but I snagged it on Zulily for cheap and it's a really good cup shape for me. Full review on the blog!

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      Straps look nice and wide

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      I love the colors on this bra, wish I had ordered one when Zulily had them. I like that the zebra print is kind of abstract looking and looks more like tye dye than animal print.

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      Beautiful!!

    • amandafire thats what I thought about the print too! I never would have tried this bra if it weren't for being so cheap on zulily that one day.

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  8. Unwind Bralette (CK011110)

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    32J/JJ

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    I couldn't resist when the Curvy Kate Unwind bralette popped up on zalando at a sale price. I had very low expectations. I had doubts that a simple bralette without wires could do much for my 32J boobs.

    It turned out that it is much better than I thought. I don't have experience with other bralettes but I was surprised at how nice it looked and what a decent shape I get in it. It does not look much worse under a t-shirt than a regular bra. The support is okay for a bralette I guess. The most uplift comes from the straps. The band fits nicely and is ... true to size in my opinion. The "cups" are a good size for my boobs, I don't think that they have to fit differently. I get slight overspill / cleavage at the center but I expected that since there is no gore to separate my boobs. I really like the stripes on the underbust band, too bad this band just rides up. I only managed to have it look like on my pictures for like 2 minutes, then it started to roll up. It does not bother me when rolled up but it diminished the look. The fabric is lightweight and soft.

    I think I would wear this bra at home, for example when I come home at late afternoon and just want to remove my regular bra but don't want to be braless during my evening. I don't think I would wear the bra to go out or do much in it. Mostly lounging, watching tv, reading, laying on couch and so on. Also I can imagine this working as a sleep bra. For daily activities I wouldn't wear it since I fear that my boobs would fall out if I move too much and I get neck pain from the strap pressure on my shoulders. While a bra with wires and a firm band can and should do 80% of work to lift the breast this bra would do much less.

    A few words on the look. I absolutely love how this bra looks on me. I don't know what it is. It is nothing npecial. I don't even like black very much. But it looks kinda classy and a bit sexy? I don't know but I will keep it and update here once I have worn it a bit more.

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    • This looks really nice, you are right! It tempts me to try it too!

    • Very well defined bra personality !

      You're right. One needs a bra that's just there while watching how cornflakes absorb milk on a saturday morning...

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      Looks amazing!! 😍

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      I wear this bra now for a lazy Sunday morning. It is amazing. No discomfort. the only thing that happens with wear is the overspill at the center, so it shows like quadboob under a Shirt. it is not too bad and since I only wear it at home it does not bother me much. Also I recommend this as a sleep bra. it felt nice when I was laying down.

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      Wow! Looks great on you. They did well!
      I wonder if it would work as a good alternative to my Bravissimo zara bralettes ...

    • martka00 Oh the Zara Bralette… now I want to try one of these too! I love the thick straps on them.

    • alisa I’ve got 4 of the Zara bralettes: 2 in black and 2 in lilac 😍 I wish they’d do one in rose or pale yellow 🤩

    • Does that keyhole at the base of the bra bother you? It looks like it wouldn't be comfortable.

    • I also love this bra. I sewed the top together a little more and I get a bit more uplift and no spillover, but I still get the band rolling up. I want to clone mine and make my own in pink.

      Also, I have worn this on long road trips and it is great. I love the cutout because it reduces boob sweat.

    • martka00 Omg the lilac! I wanted that one but now it is gone, they only have black or neon orange left :( I was worried that it would be too small since the biggest size they do is 32HH/J, so I never bothered. But I think if I only wear it at home quadboob wont' be such an issue. I would also love rose / pink or if they bring back the lilac :D looks like it sold well. Do you wear it instead of a regular bra or just for lounging?

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      Sovavosi No it did not bother me yet. The "gore" part does not lie anywhere close to my sternum anyway (not like on the model) so it just floats. At first I was scared my boobs would "fall out" there but they didn't.

    • cupandahalf I don't think I could sew it together some more on my bra because it's already kinda small fitting. Or could I get rid of the overspill with that? It would be interesting if you could add a picture of your alternation? I'd also love the pink bra. CK has to make it for us.

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      The neon orange is really neon.. personally I didn’t like it.
      Lilac is great and I bought also matching pants. It works okay under some of my white tshirts but not the thin ones so not bad...
      I wear it as a normal bra when I suffer from my reflux and during weekends. Sometimes I do also wear M&S dd bralette but it’s top like so I don’t like it too much
      I’m currently 32F/30FF in bravissimo and 30FF-G is my size to go in the bralette, so the 32HH-J might be on the small size I guess but if you’ll have a chance to try it, you should definitely give it a go.

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      alisa I’ll upload pics of it after I wash it later this week.

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      alisa , It looks comfy, but for a sleep bra, I have to have better separation. I am a side sleeper, and it is painful for me when my breasts flop around or, in this case, just spill out in the middle. :/

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      oooh this looks like a great lounge bra!

    • alisa I added pictures of my sewed up more bra to mine: 40J/JJ - Curvy Kate » Unwind Bralette (CK011110)

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  9. Delightfull Full Cup Bra (1111)

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    Didn't fit

    So...the highly anticipated Curvy Kate full figure bra....has a lot of problems. There are also some really great things about it. It is a complicated bra. Let’s dive in.

    First, the materials are super soft in the hands, really nice feeling. Nothing is hard or scratchy. Neither the band elastic nor the strap elastic has any nasty plasticky loops that are so common on Curvy Kate bras. The bra is lined with a firm but lightweight tulle on bottom and the same mesh as the band on top, under the lace, so there’s no internal quadboob anywhere. The ... design is a pretty typical 4 part cup where one part is a power bar up to the strap. The shape is more of a high apex plunge than a balconnet, although the gore is a similar height to a balconnet I have in the same size- this is not shown in the numbers, however, because while the wires match up, the gores overlapping A shaped bottom shortens the gore at the bottom. This is possibly my favorite part of the bra and others with high stomachs will love this. Most of my bras cut in at the bottom of the gore so I might be doing a new alteration on my bras from here on out.

    The general shape of the bra is good. There is finally enough center and top room and the shape is right for me. The stretch lace is nice and firm. The higher strap attachment in theory allows more centered straps. The cup is plenty deep at the center and deepest part. The gore is not too tall or wide.

    There are two main problems with this bra:
    1. The bra fits about 1-2 cups bigger than other Curvy Kates I own or have tried in 40JJ. It is both much wider and deeper. I wonder if there is vanity sizing going on, or an actual fit problem, as described below.
    2. The bra materials, besides those mentioned, are pretty problematic:

    The wires are probably the worst part of the bra. They are the most flexible I've ever experienced. Combined with a firm band, they stretch back to my back. If I stretch the bra at all they begin flexing back. This may be intentional- when I hook the bra on the tightest hooks, they are really at my back, but the front of the bra is fairly smooth and fits pretty well. The sides of the bra don't gap as much. But the straps are then pulled too wide. The wires are also too short for the bra, causing a lot of gapping and loose floppy material at the top of the cup edge, which is exacerbated by the cup edge elastic being incorrectly sewed without stretching it enough. The wires actually end before the comfort cushion part, which means that the cushion does nothing. However, I will say that I can imagine the cushion would be really excellent protection for the chubbier-sided bra wearer. Certainly I can see its benefit for me.

    The overlay fabric is likewise terrible. It is very stretchy and loose, and because it doesn't match the tension of the non-stretch tulle lining there are a lot of sewing errors and a ton of strange wrinkles. If I were to keep the bra, I would remove this layer of fabric as it does literally nothing except cause problems.

    The straps are not great either. Although I love how wide and soft they are, they are a little too stretchy. I have to shorten them very short indeed to get any lift at all.

    I want to compare this bra to my 40JJ - Curvy Kate » Curvy Kate Poppy Balcony Bra (CK10011) and my 40J - Curvy Kate » Dragonfly Plunge Bra (SG5411) , both of which are really excellent fits and pretty great feats of engineering in my mind, to say nothing of their beauty. Curvy Kate can make a really good bra when they spend the time and effort to engineer a good fit. This bra falls short, but there are concepts and qualities that can be improved on. My hope is that, with feedback, Curvy Kate can create something spectacular for the larger band + cup size that marries the elegance and excellent fit of their last season's best bras and the ingenuity and promise of this one.

    As I typically switch out bra wires anyway, I almost want to try this bra in a 40J and change the wires, cut off the top fabric, and take in the sides where they gap if needed. Maybe when it goes on sale, or is sold used somewhere I could try it. It has a lot of potential, even if I would never recommend it for anyone to try off the rack.

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      I can't believe those looks are an intentional design decision. Looks like they didn't test it :|

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      Oh no! The promo descriptive photo made it look so promising. Sorry it falls so short of the expectations. :-(

      I love how you can still find the positive gems within the bra, and do hope you get the opportunity to try the 40J soon.

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      I'm looking at insta pictures of it, and on all the bigger cup sizes the models have their arms down and their hair in the way, hiding the sides. This may be a case of, tested well in smaller cup or band sizes, not tested at the top of the size spectrum. Also, there may be sewing errors. I don't know.

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      So frustrating when they "hide" the details. ......

    • Wow, this bra is a mess!

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      Uhhh those wires. That canNOT be on purpose. Somebody done fucked up.

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      OMG those must be wires made of pudding… why oh whyyy.

    • Oh wow :|

    • Wow, that is seriously a mess. Not a well designed bra at all, sadly. The idea of this bra is great, the result though...

    • I was looking forward to this review because the whole concept behind it sounded really good... But wow... hopefully they'll get enough feedback to rework it so it actually works in the range of cup sizes they offer

    • I had the same side gaping issue with CK padded bikinis tops, must be a CK grading thing in big cups or because the straps are more centered, there is too much fabric there? I wonder how it would fit if it had decent wires, I hope you can get 40J for cheap sale price and do some alternations and bra science with it...

    • I don’t get this in other bras of theirs but you’re right, one of the bikinis I have from them did the same thing.

    • Have you considered emailing them to show them how horrible the fit is?

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      Wow. WOW. Mine came in today in 34J, so we shall see...

    • Can’t wait! I hope yours is good! Maybe mine is a lemon.

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      So yeah, I just tried it on real quick. I will try and do a proper review in a separate post tomorrow, but here are a few things to note:

      I have the same colorway in a 34J.

      The cushion pads do overlap the underwire by maybe 1/4 of an inch. Not much, but enough to relieve pressure imo. I'd say that's a scaling issue on CK's part (as usual).

      I get the same weird side gaping, but I often have extra fabric there because my breasts are so center-full. There's definitely a lot of it, however, more than I'd expect. I wonder if part of the issue there is because the bra doesn't really have side wings. You know how normally it goes cup/underwire, a little piece of fabric, a seam and then the band? This bra goes straight from cup/underwire to the band. Where I have that extra fabric is about where a side wing might be, but the bra is expecting breast tissue. Maybe a better fit for someone with a lot of side tissue, idk.

      I absolutely get the same wire issue as you do. They're just barely not on my back.

      Despite all that I don't totally hate this bra. I'm gonna play around with it and redo the measurements tomorrow.

    • triumphof I know, right? There are problems but it’s still got a lot that’s good!

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  10. Victory Balcony (9001)

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    When I received this bra, I first noticed how lightweight and thin the materials are. It is a pretty bra with the lace and sheer parts. Usually I can put on a bra very quickly but with Victory I needed quite some time to arrange my boobs for my pics so it looks decent at least.

    The issues:
    (when I put on the bra like I would normally, no extender, straps adjusted but not as short as possible so they don't cut too much into my arms and shoulders)

    Lots of gaping at the top. The cups are very tall and have lots of room in the top section, ... very full on top friendly. Wires are not as sturdy as I like and stretch quite a bit, but they also quite wide already. There is empty fabric in the cups at the sides and the wires almost end at my back.

    Also when I tried to adjust my boobs into these cups, try to escape at the V-part of the gore. The gore is very tall at 13 cm which I cannot stand on my Panache Tango but did not bother me too much on this bra. The gore does not lie flat, it gets pushed away. Center full boobs do not work with bra that I guess.

    On Bottom of the cups I also needed to kinda push my boobs towards the wide so they fill out that part. There was some empty fabric right at the wire I cannot fill. It almost looked like my boobs wanted to overtake the bra and fold over at the Bottom and over the underwire instead of filling the space. I don't know how to explain this better, it was really weird. I think there is not enough room there for deep boobs, also not enough center room.

    The band is firm and short like a 30 band. I could fasten it but it looked and felt too tight. The cups are big for a 32K, I wear 32K in Panache Tango and it's a good fit, and I think Tango is fairly true to size it has been around for years?

    32K Victory appears like 30L to me. The band is so small, you need a really small back for it, on the other side the straps are so seperated that I need a wider frame and broader shoulders to have a proper fit and not cups and straps cutting in my arms! I have narrow shoulders for my size, if I check size charts my shoulder width is 3 sizes smaller than what clothing size I actually wear also my underbust is smaller than my waist. That makes bras in big cup sizes just more difficult to fit and I think the bra could work on wider frame with smaller boobs. Very good bra for full on top, tall wide and somewhat shallow boobs (on bottom?)

    Also the shape from the side is spectacular. I never saw such a round shape in a CK bra https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=":D" />

    I tried it on again today and adjusted the straps to the maximum and wore an extender with the bra. I got rid of almost all wrinkling in the cups, when I also pushed the gore flat like on one picture it looked somewhat decent. But looks deceive as it is not wearable this way, because the shoulder straps would kill me and cut my arms off. Also I felt like there was not much support from the wire and band, the wire was too wide to support by bust on the side and would not do any support at the gore since the gore gets pushed away. The shoulder straps are super thin, stretchy and they slip all the time when adjusted. 50% boob weigh at least on the straps which would give me terrible neck pain. Not a bra for me.

    Is it bad that I think about trying 34J... just for science. I will edit this when I have other thoughts, I wrote very quickly my first impressions here.

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    • I've been meaning to order Victory but I was really discouraged by Dottie's short straps. Their 30 band was fine for me on Dottie, but the straps pull on the band so much it has seriously stretched out and rides up like crazy.

      I do wonder if you would do better with Dottie though! The cups are considerably shorter than Victory (even in stock photos) and not so much full cup.

    • The straps are very wide set on Dottie, though, almost as bad as this. So it might just be a Curvy Kate thing!

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      Dottie is a pretty bra especially that purple color, but looks like it stops at HH cup in all band sizes :(
      It looks great on you btw:)

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      CK was known for wide wires, and wide set cups yes, I thought they changed their shape a bit, like Victory is a new to CK 4 part construction but it has only changed that Victory is very roomy in the top cup and gives a better more round shape compared to old CK which gave me pointy upside 7 shape.

    • I actually stopped wearing it due to the short straps. They were giving me so many headaches and neck pains that I just couldn't bear to wear it anymore. The bra is very beautiful, though!

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      Oh no :( Would longer straps solve the problem? like take longer straps from an old bra and replace them?

    • Yes they would (I usually have strap length issues on pretty much any bra that is not custom made--I pay extra to have straps longer on my EM bras), but the colour is so particular I cannot find a good match anywhere for strap elastic :(

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      Would it help you if I measure the strap lenght on Victory when they are longest?

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      Yes true if you don't want to have the bra look like patchwork bra. Would be easier if it was the black Color...

      I never had the issue that straps were too long… must be so annoying.

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      I don’t know how tall and shallow you have to be to fit these. I don’t get it because on most instagrammers the fit is good! Maybe they are editing their pics or rearranging everything.

      Like, how is this possible? https://www.instagram.com/p/BnJHTyzB5Uz/?hl=en

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      Her arms are up in the air, though. Could also be Photoshop.

    • Guys do you think 34J could work? I don't wanna give up yet. Band is too small so I size up but size down in cups.
      No one writes the size they wear on instagram so they could just pick the one that looks best on pics and in real life wear other bras. For a pic fit and comfort are irrelevant. I also could make this bra look better with adjusting the straps very short I wonder if I could make it look like it fits with posing.

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      Yes, or her hair is hiding that it’s too small. Looks like the gore tacks though. I don’t know it’s so short on her!!! How????

      https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl0PofJBhwF/?hl=en

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      The buying for science is a temptation several of us are plagued with. We must have all the pieces to our bra puzzle!

      Sorry it was such an ill fit. :-(

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      But if it’s too shallow with not enough center room, sizing down won’t help.

    • I think it is too shallow at the centre. Why else would my boobs push the gore away?

    • Oh I love to try more bras for science. I feel like I'm starting bra fitting all new. Everything that used to work does not work anymore. I wanna order some more bras. I have Panache Tango that somewhat works but I don't wanna wear only that one...

    • did you consider EM? lace.de might deliver to you if you don't wanna order direct

    • Ehm yes I had tried a few years ago when I was around 32K like now. I found the bra construction too weak in my size. Also ordering a hassle and expendive with all the paypal snd cudtom fees. At least they sell quickly ln here. I prefer to find british brand bras that work. I don't know could never get into EM hype.

    • Arghh I cannot mention and edit when I type from my phone.

    • That is understandable, especially if you feel it can't carry your weight.

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      I have very soft and heavy boobs. I need a bra that keeps them in and does as much support as possible with wires and band. If the bra just is a bit weak I can get terrible neck pain. Even Panache Floris is too weak now it is too big in the cups. Adjusting the straps very short to get rid of gaping does not make a bra less weak.

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      alisa I am just speculating about a cluster of fit problems that might be working together to create this epic support failure, tell me if this seems possible:

      - cup is so tall and wide that the wires on your side have no ability to brace (or "push back") against the ribcage, thus defeating the purpose of underwire bras -- and enabling the gore end of the wires to just go wherever your boobs push it with very little resistance
      - because CK designers tried to give it a cute bandless look with just a little stick joining the cups down at the base of the gore (instead of having at least a triangle of strong powermesh like a normal bandless bra), if the bracing effect of the underwire is lost due to wire width, the front of the bra loses even more stability
      - therefore the whole front of the bra, including the gore, tips forward very easily under the weight of the bust and the torque effect, even if the cups themselves theoretically have the depth needed to easily fit over the wearer's breast (as you can see when you force it to tack).

      If this is a possibility, perhaps a smaller cup size would allow the bra to at least have some functional stability because the crazy wire width problem might be solved.

      The question is HOW MUCH you would need to go down in cup size to get an acceptable wire width, and would that still allow enough cup depth to actually, you know, fit your boobs!

      I think there may be some hope for making it work in a smaller cup size and 34 band, because here while it looks like an acceptable depth for your breast tissue, in fact there is quite a bit of cup volume that is just not being used -- there is such a big portion of the bra that is being stretched round your sides instead of sitting where the boob is.

      The Instagrammer that was linked above, Fairyboobmother, is also in a FB lingerie group I'm in--she is super nice. If you wanted to ask her what size she wears in this bra and what she has observed about the fit I am sure she would answer, or if you have never talked to her I can go and find her name (which has slipped my mind but I know she has posted about her IG so it's not a secret/privacy thing) and ask her myself in the FB group.

    • I took a picture holding up my arms. I just had to :D I forgot about the hair though which would hide how the straps cut off my arms. http://bra.pe/Imfa/
      My theory is you can make any bra look decent in photos, if the size is not too far off, like only 2-3 sizes too small or big.

    • wendybien thank you for your comment! I love how you explained everything, and I think that is what is going on with this bra… the band even stretches the wire more to the sides since it's so tight. The cup depth of this bra is 39cm which is the same cup depth as in my Panache Tango that fits well. The difference between these two is that Victory is very tall and very roomy on top while Tango is moderately tall and more closed on top. Also the Tango has sturdy Panache wires that can are not stretched to my back.

      So is Victory not really a shallow bra? I also think it does not look shallow but behaved like a shallow bra at the wire and gore. If the wire weren't so distorted I would have even more extra space in this bra.

      I'm also worried about the whole bandless style, I never got along with bandless bras. The bra is a really cute design but they probably only tested in on smaller cup sizes.

      Like I said I find it fits kinda like I imagine a 30L. So if I sistersized that to a 34 band, I would wear 34K, but then I have to go down in cups like 2 sizes which would make me have to order 34J? Oh if only that 36HH that was added here was measured… so I could compare cup width of a sister size.

      Should I order another or should I not? I'm really really curious so no other way to find out. Ha I love to try bras for science. My wallet does not love the shipping costs ;(

    • alisa brastop has a sale going on today..I think ... So maybe that'll help?

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      alisa can you pay via PayPal and use their returns reimbursement option? That’s what I do if there are no free returns.

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      Your arms up pics...wow. I need to remember that when looking at insta. You don’t even need to photoshop, it’s all in the posing.

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      Frazzleberry thanks I got this Victory bra in their sale, now they got even 1-2£ cheaper than last week :)

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      cupandahalf I can use free Returns in PayPal, 12 times a year and no more than 3 times in 1 month. I almost forgot about that. Yaay!

      I'm just not used to buy so many bras, haven't done that in a while so I feel a bit "bad" for buying so much :D

      Yes instagram is not good for bra fitting just promoting sales of the bras by having them look good no matter what. Good that we have bratabase for fit issues. I also think a few popular instragram bloggers are in too small bras, just to fit into a size range of a brand,but would need a bigger cup for proper fit. The bras never look like they are too small though.

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      The only bra fit photos I trust are the ones on btb! lol

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      alisa the way a bra looks to fit in photos is often very dependent on lighting, I think it was MamaPagan who showed her photos in different lighting that were a stark difference in fit despite being taken one after the other.
      In my photos some of my issues are often very hard to see... I quad in near every bra I try due to my freakishly tall roots, despite being pretty FOB, yet it is extremely hard to see that in photos!

    • brasaremean I even try to make my photos so that the issues I describe are visible. Sometimes I take photos where I make a bra look better but then I write it down, like that arm holding up pic or when I strangle my arms with super tight straps to get rid of cup wrinkling.

      I wonder if my roots are really tall for my size? I mean I don't have any data to compare. How tall has a tall root in size 32K to be? :S Back in the day everyone told me I need tall deep cups and they worked. Last week I got 4 bras I couldn't fill the top, I'm confused :S

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      alisa looking at these pictures and the Bravissimo ones I wonder if your shape has changed and you’re now more short rooted. Medium roots?

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      alisa Our breasts are ever changing, and I swear when I think I've figured mine out, they up and change again. I am currently between sizes for the main brand I wear. One cup is painfully small but I get the dreaded wrinkle in the next cup up. Yet it's still better than any other brand for me, as the options are quite limited. :-/
      I feel your frustrations amd pain.

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      That is what I gathered from her fitting help request cupandahalf. Unfortunately with weight loss come breast shape changes and what would have worked before might no longer work.

      MamaPagan those are the ones! Thank you :)

      alisa I genuinely try to make the fit issues obvious in photos but they just won't show :/

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      alisa I just went to look at some of your old bras (I hope you don't mind). So for this photo ( http://bra.pe/IQYl/ ) I would definitely say you lost some upper fullness. This happened to me too after some weight loss over the past year (I went from 83kg to about 74 right now). The more weight I lost, the more FOB I got, which was really annoying to me because I genuinely felt like my breasts were full all over and what worked before (even in the wrong size, as much as that can work) stopped working after that weight loss, and prompted me to actually start looking into this whole a bra that actually fits thing.

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      Wow, comparing those two bras, especially the angled views, really shows your weight loss and shape change! You are still full on top but your breasts start lower on your chest.

      Let me think about what might work well for you keeping this in mind.

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      MamaPagan thanks for the pics :)

    • You're welcome :-)

    • brasaremean No no I don't mind. I had this floris since 2014 when it fitted and it fitted again for few weeks during my weight loss journey. 2015-2018 when I was at my heaviest weight, was my easiest time in bra fitting. I just wore Bravissimo 34L bras. When I wore one to death I just could order another in that size and it worked. I felt a bit sad about it today but I'm also excited to try new bras :) Interesting about how weight loss can change boob shape and how we need to fit ourselves.

    • cupandahalf could one change full on top boobs to full on Bottom? I kinda think it could not be possible? Maybe change from full all over to more full on top / bottom? I have shorter roots now probably medium for my size, I lost a lot of upper and side fullness.

      Today I almost cried when I put on my 30K Tango with extender. I had zero quadboob. I even thought I forgot to scoop in side tissue and did it again 2 times but everything fitted so well I was shocked. I was so thankful for the support of this bra. I made the mistake of wearing 32K floris last week when I also had a migraine and it made everything worse by being unsupportive and gave me neck pain. Tango keeps my boobs in place and holds them up. I thought if everything fails, I can get another 32JJ Tango. But on the Bravissimo website they complain about quality issues and new Tango colors apparently have weaker wires and wires popping out after a few wears. What did Panache do to this bra!? :(

    • You can always order the old colourways on ebay and such

    • MamaPagan you are the expert here on polish bras and Ewa Michalak, would you recommend any of those for me? I had tried 2 comexim, and 3 EM bras years ago, they did not work. (fit was off) but what kept me from exploring some more was that I found them to weak to support my boobs. I also prefer british brands as they are easier to buy and return for me.

    • brasaremean yes I know, I love eBay. There isn't as much there nowadays but one can still get bargains occasionally.

      On Bravissimo new in I found this lilac colorway: https://www.bravissimo.com/products/tango-bra-bluebell-pn53bll/ sooo pretty I always wanted a bra in this color, they call it bluebell, I love bluebells :)

    • I love! the new lilac/periwinkle/bluebell colourways!
      Bravissimo also has Stella plunge and CK has the lilac one. Beautiful colours

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      I wouldn't call myself an expert since we are all learning every day, but I have tried quite a few. I wouldn't recommend Comexim unless you want to switch the wires as they will not serve you well.

      With Ewa, I would think her FB line might give you the support you need while still providing you comfort, but would recommend going with one that has the stretch lace to adjust the fit better. dbmamaz has tried a few of the FB models, and her input would be very valuable here.

      From what I've read about the line, the bands and cups run small, so double check the sizing before leaping forward though.

      Aside from the FB, I'd suggest the SF line as it is more supportive than the BM but more flexible with fit than the SM.

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      alisa I remember your EM adventures (which were indeed failures in terms of support) and I would say that it could be worth at least examining cup measurements here or contacting them to ask questions about wire length, wing height etc. in an appropriate size, since they now make more high-coverage cups, which are more supportive on a full AND tall breast shape like your own (perhaps not as tall as before, but you still have some pretty solid, projected boob height that needs support). I think you would definitely want to make sure you were trying the designs with the most robust materials and appropriate height at the gore and on the sides, because those features are very important to get a nice, stable, secure fit.

      Re: changing degrees of "full on top"/"full on bottom"-ness, you can absolutely experience a big change in breast shape and proportions at the same weight if your body composition and breast composition has changed. Let's take an example of a young lady who goes from 65kg at age 18, to 85 at age 22 and then back to 65 at age 25. Same breast volume overall at 18 and 25. Well, if she was like me at 18, a good proportion of her breast was composed of nice soft fluffy fat, which often sits on the upper pole of the breast. Now let's say that her massive weight loss from ages 22 to 25 was related to the fact she took up a strenuous sport (thus increasing muscle mass and reducing her body fat % to at least a little bit less than what it was at age 18, and meanwhile also experiencing further growth of the actual glandular tissue because she is one of those people who gets breast growth in her 20s). Now she is 65kg once again but her boobs at 25 will have a much higher proportion of glandular tissue and less fat. So she could have lost a great deal of the fluffy fullness she had on the upper pole of the breast when she was a teenager, while still having roughly the same breast volume, and she will now also likely find that her breasts now are heavier and denser requiring even more serious support than before--because glandular tissue is heavier than fat.

      (My considered opinion about the Full on Top/on Bottom descriptors anyway is that they are not complete shape descriptors. For a meaningful description, other proportions need to be considered together with those FoT/FoB qualifiers. People use them loosely and interchangeably with various terms suggesting more or less breast height, but if you use them strictly, a person with a very very full upper boob shape may fit into the most closed-on-top, small-cup-height bra if the projected part of her breast is simply not very tall and she has more of a "b" boob shape (round full shape that ends abruptly on top and no tapering tissue going up towards collarbone). Meanwhile another super-full-on-top shape person could be utterly unable to fit any but the tallest and most open-on-top cups (a bit like the blogger BrasIHate who coined these terms) due to the unusual height of the full, projected part of her breasts. So, yes these are helpful terms but they only tell part of the story.)

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      alisa dbmamaz has a few Tangos and she thinks they are good quality in a similar size to yours, so I think it's ok to try maybe?

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      I was waiting for this comment wendybien , you explain it best. I kinda remember having this weight/shape changes discussion before...

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      brasaremean oh yes by now I have a lot of practice singing that tune
      :-D I was a bit afraid to mention it the first time years ago because people REALLY loved having these terms that they thought would be the key to all kinds of fit dilemmas. Fortunately nobody got mad so I have mentioned it again many times since!

    • I'm sorry everyone I answer so late. I appreciate everyones comments. :)

      MamaPagan thank you for your recommendations. I have added a SF and FB on my wishlist. I don't know if I would be sized out of SF depending of how it runs compared to UK sizes. THe biggest size they make is 75K.
      I will avoid comexim, the bras were too weak, my boobs would fall out of them. I don't think it's worth it as long as I have other options.

    • alisa They often make sizes larger than what's listed. My size is never listed (60KK-60L) as available, not even under custom, but they still make it. It just requires an email order instead of a web order, and of course custom sizes are never returnable.
      @dbmamaz still wears Panache so she could assist with knowing how they compare in this size range. I would definitely speak with her before ordering.

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      wendybien thank you for your comment. It was very helpful. I re-read BrasIHate''s master post again http://brasihate.blogspot.com/2013/02/clarifying-breast-shape-full-on-top-vs.html and with your comment it helped me clear the confusion.
      I still do have a full on top shape by definition of this post. Also combined with tall root but not extremly tall like you described. I can wear a Panache Tango in the right size without overspill and that is not a bra that is recommend for FOT shape. But I lost some fullness with my weightloss going from 34L /36K to 32K which was fluffy fat I had on the sides and the upper boob. (When at 34L I decribed my boobs are full on in all directions :D Also I would fill the cup to the wire and top in 34L selina, no empty spaces ever. ) I think the bras I tried recently were too big in the cups, I don't have so much upper fullness to have to size up 2 sized in Bravissimo compared to Panache and CK Victory is just weirdly sized. I have a 34J on it's way just to satisfy my curiosity and for bra science.

      What you think, should I open a new adventure about weight loss / bra size changed so everyone can share their stories? I think it would be easier to find, than your talk here on a bra review. Valuable information can be found easily by search and we could link the adventure if the topic comes up again?

    • I think that's a great idea alisa . Almost everyone deals with that at some point and it's one of the rare fit issues that seems to affect every single size range in terms of the way it will shake our confidence in fitting ourselves. Plus, changes in weight, size, body composition or reproductive situation are FAR from emotionally neutral so we often need all the help we can get in those situations.

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      wendybien I will let you know when I opened the new adventure, so you could add your very imformative comments from here there too. I don't know when I get to it in the next days. I will also do a new adventure of my bra trials and fails so there is not too much off topic stuff on this review here.

    • Thank you, yes, reminders are a good idea--the brain cells I wore out thinking about bras seem not to be renewing as fast as they used to hahaha! If I don't post on it promptly, feel free to send me a PM--sometimes I miss a notification if there are lots on the same day.

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  11. Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

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    This bra has a lovely dark blue colour called accompanied by a light blue elastic on the bottom of the cups and band and matching bows on the gore and straps.

    It's a three part cup bra. The bottom and outer part of the cups is two-lined mesh that is not stretchy. The top part of the cups is delicate stretchy lace in the same dark blue colour with an abstract floral-like pattern. It accommodates my upper and central fullness really well and feels non-scratchy (unlike CK Princess lace, which is killing me). There is some risk of in-cup quadding with this bra, fortunately, it's not visible on me ... when I am wearing my clothes on.

    With the top of the cups being stretchy, I think it would be great for nursing, as the cups can be pulled down easily, plus there is no risk of cutting in.

    There is slight inconvenience with the bottom elastic curling under the band and hurting me sometimes - this is something that happens in all of my bras, so I guess I just need to accept it.

    Overall, I am really happy with this purchase. Because of my baby pushing all of my organs up my ribcage is 2 cms larger than before pregnancy, I prefer to wear the bra with an extender some days.

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    • This color is gorgeous on you!! Glad it mostly fits. :-)

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  12. Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

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    I tried this model in a 28F (http://bra.pe/XY3C/) already and the cups felt really small and didn't fit properly. But thanks to Calluna and lcl0706 I gave it another try in 30F and this is so much better. Thanks for convincing me! The color looks better then expected. I originally wanted to get a blue one but this was on sale on bravissimo.com. It's a mix between purple and Bordeaux red and it looks even more intense in person then on the photos. I also like the shiny straps and the band at the bottom.

    The cups are filled out perfectly, ... the gore finally tacks and there is enough space at the top in front. I also don't get that weird pressure on the outside of my breasts anymore. The wires are still a bit too wide but they are soft so I don't feel them. The elastic in front of my armpits wrinkles and there is some empty space. It gets worse, when I lift my arms and better when I move the straps towards my neck. But it's completely invisible under clothes. I guess it would fit even better on someone with wider, and possibly taller roots since the sides are quite high. Surprisingly the shape is also more projected then in the 28F probably the cups were indeed pulled flat by the band due to the soft wires.

    Comfort is amazing. I have this for over two month now and wear it quite often. At first it felt way too loose but wearing it to work I noticed that it doesn't shift around and my boobs don't move much. Only when I bend over the gore lifts of my sternum slightly and the stretch lace feels like it could allow my breast to move forward making it feel less secure. Overall it doesn't quite match the support and shape of my super tight 28Fs but in return it is more comfortable toward the end of the day. Also the larger portion of stretch lace provides some room for swelling which makes it a great period bra.

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      I love the color! Thank you for sharing :-)

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      Looks great! Yay! Even though it’s kinda similar to my crimson, I’m looking at getting this colour in a 32DD or 32E, as I find the 30 a bit too tight in this style and need to use an extender. I want to see if it fits more comfortably from the start. I’m leaning towards the E because I might have the band altered to make the tension more even, as the top is looser compared with the bottom (which is one reason I have a bit of wrinkling at the side wire because it’s not flexing the wire far enough back) and the cup might be a little bit taller to contain my super soft tissue better at the seam with the lace better than it does in the 30E. But I might get a wee bit of extra depth in the 32DD that will be sufficient. Anyway...

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      A very nice fit. Thanks for posting the review!

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      That looks stunning on you!

    • Thank you all so much.

      @Calluna Looking at the other pictures it seems like most people get this wrinkling on the sides of the cups to some extend. So maybe this is just a design flaw. Or this bra is made for very wide breast that tend to spread out to the sides.

      I think altering it is a good idea. But maybe we should just remove some fabric and a bit of the elastic from between the straps and the wires instead of making the upper elastic on the band shorter (If I understand you correctly). I had less wrinkling on the sides of my 28F because the wires were pulled wider. But it was uncomfortable to have them sit so far behind my breast tissue. Also you could loose some space in front and the distorted wires could make the gore dig in. But I am just guessing at this point.

    • Yeah, I'm not sure if it's a design flaw or not because my Florence has the same issue. It's probably made for a v shaped chest where the top needs less tension because the rib cage is naturally wider, thus pulling the tension on the wires better. That type of alteration might work too.

    • Gorgeous! Congratulations :-)

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  13. Dreamcatcher Balcony Bra (CK2301)

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    Didn't fit

    Very short-waisted, immediately projected, slightly narrow, shallow apex projection, even vertical distribution, center full, close-set breasts....

    Narrow projected ladies, this is a readily available bra that may fit! Wow. This has better projection than the 65G SM Ewa Michalak I just tried. Although 30F Dreamcatcher is too narrow for me, the immediate and apex projection are nearly perfect. Curvy Kate 30G Bardot is a similar fit, but this 30F Dreamcatcher has slightly better immediate and center projection. You may be able to tolerate a smaller Dreamcatcher than your typical size, if you need narrow wires.

    Center projection. This bra has more center projection than Bardot, Portia, Madagascar and the CK ... plunges. If you have center full breasts, the gore will likely be too wide, but there is fabric to accommodate tissue near the wire. Although it is one size too small, I continue to use it as a baseline for all other bras, because I need center projection. Gorsenia tops Curvy Kate as do some of the disconnected gore models offered by Wacoal. Still, Dreamcatcher is better than most.

    The band is not as supportive as I had hoped. It is a single layer mesh and runs a bit large, in my opinion. But, if you need to narrow and/or overlap a gore, this band has the extra space required for that alteration in your preferred size. Finally, the band has 2x3 fasteners. Curvy Kate adds 3x3 fasteners at 30FF, which I prefer.

    Sadly, the outer materials are scratchy. The fine mesh lining the cups, however, is very soft amd smooth. If you have sensory issues, Dreamcatcher is not a good option. Gia is better, but the geometric material along the top of Gia's cup will irritate some. Still, I recommend Comexim and Lejaby for those demanding the softest materials.

    None of my complaints are significant enough to sway my recommendation: narrow and projected breasts may adore the space in this bra. I like it well enough that I'm searching Bratabase measurement tables to identify the next size. Many thanks to those of you who add measurements!! https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> A 30FF is on its way. The projection is THAT good. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" />

    Thank you, courtnelius !!

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  14. Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

    I've dilly dallied and delayed putting up my review for this bra, but as it's one of my current favourite bras, it is the only one that I had not added pics to or reviewed.

    I got this bra in from lcl0706 who I'm friends with on Facebook with. She's much more experienced in bra fitting and shapes and such, and has been helping me with my shape and fits for a little bit now. When she put her listings up, she asked me if I was interested in it before she put it up because she thought it would be a good shape for me, ... given our similar shapes and sizes. I waffled on it for a bit, at first over the colour and then concerned that it might not fit. This is the kind of friend that she is...she sat with me, via messenger, and stepped me through measuring my current favourite and best fitting bras. Once we finished, she determined that it had a strong chance of fitting...that I *might* need a 30F and that she would toss in an extender with the bra just in case that it was too tight for me in the band. She even sent the extender attached, as I've never used one before.

    Anyway, I bit the bullet and got it from her and tracked that sucker every freaking day, because I was really excited. And one day, I tracked it and it said it was in Canadian customs, which it had been for many days, and then I randomly decided to track it again after work and I saw it had been delivered! YASSSS!!! I was so excited that I put it on as soon as I got home instead of making dinner. 😂

    On to the fit...

    My shape, as best we have determined, is narrow with average to short roots (possibly thin and tall roots but with most of the tissue being lower, and thus, still functionally short ish), even to FOB, center full,and pendulous with soft tissue. So as best I know, I need something with enough projection at the wire that's not too wide.

    When I saw the bra, I no longer had any concerns about the crimson colour. It's exceptionally pretty (but also exceptionally hard to match underwear to in terms of colour) and I think that it's a nice match for my skin tone. It's got a good balance of warm and cool red tones. The extender that was sent is bright red, so not an exact match, but very kind to add one in a similar colour. The material is really light and soft, and the detail of the stretch lace is quite pretty. I'm fairly ambivalent about the strip of elastic at the bottom. I think that it looks alright and hasn't been problematic for me so far. When I tried on the bra and took pics and sent to my best friend, she was in awe and said it looked like it was made for me. That aside, there are a few minor fit issues with the bra that aren't hugely noticeable to the untrained eye or under cloths.

    Although I can do up the band on the loosest hook setting, it's not my ideal comfort setting. After wearing it for a while, I start to get pain behind the gore at my sternum. I have the same thing happen with my 30E Lepel Lilly. I expect that it's a sign the band is too tight, so I'm currently using the extender and it fits more comfortably, so I feel like it would be better to have a 32 band in this. I'm told it is one of the snugger CK bands. I'm getting a slight bit of in cup quadding and more when I've really extended my swoop and scoop and done it more aggressively like I have been lately since I got my Freya Fancies and Kiyoko. If it was not for the stretch lace, I'd probably have more quadding. One thing I've noticed is that the stretch lace sort of bubbles and doesn't lay smoothly over my smaller breast (in particular) so it does look a little bit funny. I'm not sure if going up the cup size would be better. The fear is that going up with the cup may make the nice rounded shape less so. I think that I'd like to try it again in a 32DD and go from there. I think that the 32DD might have just enough extra depth that the cup issues might be better with it. My only concern about going up with the band is whether or not the wire width and the strap placement will be ok or too wide. I'm quite happy to use the extender but I feel like it's a bandaid and that using it means that I am in the wrong band size. Anyway, I am quite keen to try it ok other sizes and colours.

    I'm very thankful to have been given the chance to try this style.


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      The color is gorgeous on you! So glad you tried this one :-)

    • Love4Pollinators Thanks so much! The colour is much better than I thought. I had been afraid it would be too red, or too pink as one of the pics of it I'd seen. I'm glad I got it. I did find underwear that's a close match, though not exact I'm colour, and some that's complimentary and/or coordinates. I think that it's a pretty good fit...perhaps not 100% perfect, but better than a lot of my current bras, so it's a start. Even though the Fancies would have been ok in a 30E, this is a better fit and I would prefer another one of these to the Fancies.

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      This looks good on you! That colour looks nice on your skin tone. I had the same fit issues with this bra, as you know. In the 30E I got in cup quadding, and in the 30F my smaller side had some loose fabric at the top of the cup. The shape was less rounded in the larger size too. Again... It sucks being between sizes! If you end up ordering a larger band, I would get two cup volumes to compare, and just send one back. If you pay through Paypal they have paid return shipping as long as you sign up for the return shipping thing they have. I'm in Canada and I use it every once in a while when I need to send back bras that aren't ordered through Amazon prime.

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      This looks great on you. Your review encouraged me to try this in a larger cup size.

      And if it fits fine with an extender, wear it. Nobody will notice and it will stretch out anyway so you may even get more lifetime out of it.

    • aboobaccount yay! I’m glad you’re going to try yours in a larger cup. I think that will help. As for the extender, I feel sort of the same way. I sometimes feel like the extender creates doubt in my mind as to what size I ought to be starting at. I feel like if I’m using the extender on my two 30 bands, maybe I really do just need a 32 band. But then I think of the 32 bands in the So Free lightly lined balconette (and full cup) and how big and stretchy they are and how I’m able to use the tight hook straight away. My unlined balconette is totally different in the band...it’s much snugger. And I tried a Fantasie Rebecca and it was loose, and the Natalie was snug. And the Freya Kiyoko was probably ok to co to a 28 even though I was not able to do the 28 in the Fancies. So I guess that it’s really up to the companies, styles, and such. And if I use the 30 and it’s tight, and the extender works, I’ll eventually get more use out of the bra. But it does kind of feel like I’m cheating a bit.

      Wilderness1 hi! Thanks so much! I sort of feel like I want to try all the sister sizes, lol, because it’s almost like each sister size has its own size, and not true sister sizing, based on the measurements here. It looks like the 32DD cup depth is larger than the 30E, when it should be the same, and the same should go for the 30F and 32E. I worry about the shape in the 30F and the straps, wires and cups (widths) in the 32DD. Ultimately, it is probably going to be a price thing. If I’m able to get another 30E in latte or white and pink, and it’s significantly cheaper, I’ll stick with the extender. But I think I want to try a 32DD in it next. But yeah, it’s hard to be in between cups and band sizes. As for the PayPal thing, it was mentioned in the ABTF fb group in one of my posts. I’ll have to look into it. Is there a cost for that service? Btw, where in Canada are you? I’m west (aka wet) coast.

      Thank you everyone for saying such wonderful things. It’s definitely one of my favourite bras and I look forward to getting more.

    • I'm in Alberta, where we've been having an awful winter :(
      I think this is the link for paypal return shipping: https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/returnshipping

      It's free to join, and I've used it probably a dozen times. When you return something you'll need the receipt from the post office and a picture of the box with the stamps on it. It's pretty easy actually.

    • Thanks Wilderness1 ! Excellent information! You've used it and it's worked for you well? Sending love and hugs from Vancouver Island. :)

    • Yes I've used it quite a few times. I've received return shipping every time I've used it. I think you get up to 30 dollars per return. I'm not sure how many times/year you can use it, but it USED to be 12/year. You'd have to read the terms to confirm the details.

    • Yeah it says $30 up to 12 times a year. Is that $30 USD or CAD? I'm definitely going to look at this for future orders. Right now, my next bra is a listing from here, from the same user I got the Ellace from, so no return options.

    • it's $30.00 Canadian as far as I know, but I've never needed to use that much for a return. I usually just send things back regular post, because it's like $45.00 to send packages back with tracking (internationally). I'll just take the risk instead....

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  15. Lifestyle Plunge Bra (CK5711)

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    Didn't fit

    Tldr: size down one or two cups, straps are very wide set.

    My boobs: very short narrow root, full on top, center full

    Fit: This bra seems to fit one to two cup sizes deeper than indicated. My best fitting bra right now is 40JJ - Elomi » Jodi Plunge Bra (4190) which fits basically like a full coverage bra on me. This bra is just as deep or deeper, shorter, and more open. In my opinion it's more like a plunge balcony as the angle from the gore to the straps is not very extreme and the general look is sort ... of flat across the top like a balcony bra. The shape is a lovely rounded shape but with plenty of projection. The wires are fairly narrow for this size. The gore height is short to average for this size. The band is tts and fastens comfortably but firmly on the loosest hooks.

    The main fit issue is the wide placement of straps at front and back, a pretty typical problem for this brand in the larger back sizes. On my 40J - Curvy Kate » Cabaret Plunge Bra (CK5111) I had to alter the back straps which made the bra much more comfortable. I like the fit and shape of this bra much better because the cups are more open, so I might consider doing the same surgery on this one. Otherwise they won't stay on my shoulders no matter how I angle them.

    Feel: Besides the strap placement, it feels great. The mesh is soft but strong. Elastics are nicer than usual. The illusion elastic edge on the cup is not scratchy and is tensioned correctly. The wires are softer than Panache but firmer than Comexim. The straps are different than typical CK: a smooth, soft, less stretchy material.

    Look: I love the minimalist stuff coming out of lingerie manufacturers now. The mesh is not doubled on this bra so it is transparent everywhere. The only decorations are a black metal O at the gore and ribbon strap attachmeny to a similar O on each strap. The stitching is not the best on the gore thing but I would just take it off anyway so shrug. The shape is lovely. There is an illusion elastic edge to the cup which is also very nice. This bra was just released in "latte" which is a light medium skin tone so I might go for it as I've been looking for one for quite a while. At $55 it's on the low end for British manufacturers, probably worth it to me to get one and alter it. I'm thinking about it for the summertime.

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      I love the design of that bra, especially the rings. Looks great on you!

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      I love minimalist bra design too - this is so chic! CK straps are annoyingly wide in smaller sizes too :(

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      It is encouraging CK is trying a few new features. Not only is this stunning on you, the features are compelling. This would be heavenly in summer. Thanks for your detailed review!

    • I haven't tried this bra because I felt like the mesh panel would give me in cup quadding like Ellace and Hettie did - basically same as your problem with Ellace before you modified yours. You obviously didn't experience that, do you think it has potential to cause that sort of problem? Thanks.

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      In the pictures I see some in cup quad but I didn't notice it in person. It's definitely nothing like Ellace or Hettie. More like what I have experienced with Envy before- very slight.

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      cupandahalf thank you!

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  16. Cascade Balcony Bra (CK3601)

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      Oooh the color of this is so gorgeous! Looks like a pretty good fit too.

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      Really looks like a great fit. Congats to you .

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  17. Daydreamer Balcony Bra (CK5401)

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    Didn't fit

    This may be the Cleo Lily we've been waiting for:
    -Up front
    -Rounded
    -Substantial straps
    -Supportive band
    -Excellent immediate projection
    -Excellent center projection
    -Short-root friendly

    If you liked Cleo Lily, here she is...improved. Seriously.

    30G CK Daydreamer vs CK Florence
    -The wire channel is thicker, but not wider: I measured https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />
    -The fabric is more supportive, but still relatively lightweight.
    -The immediate projection is slightly better.
    -The lift is BETTER. That was the most surprising difference.
    -The cup width is .25" more narrow.

    I definitely need a 30GG in this style because the cup is especially narrow. And, I'm not a fan of the kitsch fabric. However, this is a well-designed, supportive bra! And, I look forward to a more elegant fabric....soon. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" />

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      It is a great bra. I loved the feel of the fabric: way better than most Curvy Kates. I wish I had bought a 38jj

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      cupandahalf The fabric is so different and wonderful! I thought Ellace was my favorite until Daydreamer arrived. Amazing. Thanks so much for bringing this design to my attention!

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      I wish CK unlined bras worked for me. I've tried 4 now including Cascade (I think the same cut as Daydreamer). The fabric was the nicest part about that bra and I think Daydreamer is similar.

    • letstalkaboutbras I thought Cascade and Daydreamer were the same cut, too. I assure you, they are not. Cascade was too shallow near the wire and I tried in two different sizes hoping to find a better fit. But, Daydreamer has excellent immediate projection. $24 on Amazon in certain sizes.... ;-)

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      Love4Pollinators Aw, darn, I could have gotten it for cheap to try, too. The problems I had with Cascade were that I'm too FoB and narrow for it. I couldn't fill the lace part at all and the band fought with my flared ribcage. Daydreamer looks really nice on you. I don't hate the print that much :)

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      I think I will try the 40j and take in the band. I think it's cheap on eBay right now too

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      Amazon wasn't showing a 30GG anywhere, but there it was when I tried to exchange this 30G. Equal exchange! :-) :-) I'm thrilled because I couldn't find a 30GG on EBay either. And, there is no sign of a different fabric...anywhere. Hoping the 30GG dimensions are perfect. I'm so done with too small bras!

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      Wow! Good to know! Thanks for the review! It looks really nice on you!

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      So the SS17 style that I think will be similar in cut, comparing pictures, is the equally kitschy Vegas, in a neon flamingo print. It is both hideous and amazing and I must have it: http://thepetitecollegiate.com/2016/08/04/curvy-kate-ss17/

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      cupandahalf Giggling. "Hideous and amazing and I must have it." :-) :-)

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      I want a few bras that cause me to smile. And, Vegas with those freaking pink flamingos may be just what I need. ;-)

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  18. Cabaret Plunge Bra (CK5111)

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    Didn't fit

    I'm totally obsessed with plunge bras at the moment, got an Amazon gift card for Christmas, and this was $18 - thus, the Cabaret came to be. It's being returned so fast I'm not bothering with fancy-pants blog photos or a full write up; I took these in my bathroom on my iPhone and did some quick and messy tattoo editing. It's a fail on me but it's my brabligation to add it to BTB and give you the takeaways. My opinions of pros and cons are all my own and relative to my size and shape, so as always YMMV.

    PROS: very short wings (2.6"). ... Shortest I've found to date. All the chafed armpits out there should rejoice - you'll be safe in this bra. Low gore (1.6"). Oodles of immediate projection. Relatively narrow wires (5.1"). Short-root/FOB friendly cups with a closed edge that seems like it would prevent my soft tissue from sliding out of the middle. Firm wires that don't distort on the tightest band setting - could be a con for those with sensitive ribcages. Pretty aesthetics, with the sheer black mesh and barely-pink accents. To be fair, I'm not a fan of the black and hot pink one, just the black-and-blush colorway.

    CONS: True to size band - this is actually a pro for most, but a con for me since it wasn't available in a 28F. Oodles of apex projection - again, could be a pro, however this is a bra too projected for me. There's a sentence I never thought I'd say. There's a lot of wrinkling at the apex of this bra. If the cups weren't so closed off I could do a 30DD, but the cup shape is simply a mismatch for my own. Wide gore (1") - will bother the very close set among us, did not bother me since I am slightly splayed. Somewhat scratchy/rough material reminiscent of Cleo by Panache that feels like it would soften with wash and wear.

    So in the end, the Cabaret came close but just didn't get it done. I wish it did, and perhaps I could pinch the extra apex material and tack it down, but I have so many well fitting bras that for the price of this one and considering the band alteration it would shortly need, it just isn't worth it. This bra reminds me a lot of the Freya Arabella plunge and I adore the aesthetics of both, but the Arabella stabbed my sternum. All pictures were taken on the tightest band hooks.

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      I appreciate this review. I'd also need a true 28, but I need tons of apex projection, too. Checked the measurements and 9.5 may be a smidge too deep. Seems more like an F. Maybe I can find something similar with an opaque cup. I'm trying to find an unlined bra and prefer stiffer materials. I haven't looked at CK in a while...

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      I tried this a few months ago and had similar problems. With all the good luck I've had with Ellace and Bardot I was hoping their plunges would be the same, I had similar issues to what you are having with the wrinkling. I thought I had added the bra, but I think it arrived at a time when I was super busy traveling for work and had only a day or two home.

    • letstalkaboutbras it seems like I measured mine quite a bit deeper than others too. I often think I get a bigger number than most people when I measure depth on bras, and I don't know if it's my technique or what. I'm always careful to measure the deepest part of the cup regardless of where that is. It does look like an F on paper, I guess it's possible I got one that runs bigger. That said, the shape is still wrong for me - I know in a size down it would be too closed off for me.

      amandafire you entered your bra on here because I remember reading your write up of it too and you having the same problems. Unfortunate, I would love some unlined plunges to have around. I wonder if CK's Dare and Desire (or whatever they were called) are cut the same.

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      I've found their Unlined plunges run 1 cup deep. Although Ellace, Florence, and Bardot are good fits volume-wise, 30G Princess Plunge was enormous. I couldn't find my breast in all the wrinkles ;-)

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      I would hazard a guess the newer plunges & redesigned cups are all going to have this same shape which kinda sucks - I'd like to find one that fits me. I've never considered myself to have anything but very short roots so I'm surprised to find a bra that would cut in on me, hence why I'm more apt to call this "too projected at the apex in my correct size" rather than "too closed off in a size down", an example of which I've never encountered until now!

    • One of our users has had incredible luck with the new plunges (center and immediate projection are excellent), but she is at the opposite side of the range.

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      Love4Pollinators that's me! I love CK plunges because of their apex projection which I really need (everyone loves 3hcs but they just don't work for me due to lack of apex projection). As far as closed edges in CK plunges go, Cabaret is the most closed off, followed by Atomic, followed by the Princess Plunge, which is super open on top.

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  19. Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

    In my blog review I break down this bra (the black colorway), the latte bra in 28F, and the white bra in 30E. I review all three at the same time. It's a great shape for narrow and short roots that need projection! This has quickly become my favorite unlined bra. Full details on the blog!

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  20. Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

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    In my blog review I break down this bra (the white colorway), the black bra in 28F, and the latte bra in 28F. I review all three at the same time. It's a great shape for narrow and short roots that need projection! This has quickly become my favorite unlined bra. Full details on the blog!

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      Thank you for the review! I'm intrigued... I tried a couple CKs in my early bra fitting days and the fit was just off for me, so I've been reluctant to try again. How do you find the shape (say...in comparison to EMs SM and Cleo's Marcie?)

    • Wilderness1 I find it more rounded than the SM's for sure. SM's were quite minimizing on me. Ellace is almost as round as Marcie, but the fabric isn't as stiff (in my size) so I'd say it's between SM and Marcie on the basketball boobs scale. I do know that starting one cup larger, so 28FF and equivalent sister sizes on up, CK changes the construction to be more supportive - it has wider straps, a 3x3 closure, and possibly stiffer fabric (?). I was surprised at how lightweight the bra is, and I don't think it's quite so lightweight in larger volumes.

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      Okay, well, I may keep my eye out for a sale on this one so I can try it. I haven't tried EM's SM or BM because I've read mixed reviews about what it does for shape so that's good to know. Thanks for the tidbit about shape change on the bra over 28FF sizes.

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      I just bought this bra today at the boutique near me. The black is gorgeous! I ended up taking home the latte because the black colorway was a tiny bit off in the cup size. The red and latte colorways fit great and had good projection, as you described. Thanks for the review!

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