Short version- Like the standard Porcelain, the band is not continuous, and the cups are seamless and molded. The contour material is a good deal thinner than an EM plunge or Freya Deco or padded half-cup, which has its ups and downs (feels lighter, but less nipple modesty). Fully adjustable straps!
This bra stays in place during the day, and I had only a bit of spillage towards the middle after several hours (so far true of all plunge bras I’ve tried, because my tissue is on the soft side). The band is what I would call an ‘average’ 32, does not come up tight as many Panache bras do, ...but not as stretchy as the Freya bras I’ve worn. The straps did not seem as widely set as the standard Porcelain, but one’s mileage may vary. The cups fit just right in a 32G (what I wear in the majority of bras).
There is fabric at the bottom of the cup where it doesn’t curve out at all, but this seems to be the design to provide support. It didn’t feel like the orange-in-a-glass effect which I get with some bras that have very little room at the bottom of the cup. The fabric doesn’t fold over, just tacks against the skin. It may not be for everyone, but suited me just fine and was calibrated for the appropriate size.
Smooth and sleek, this works great for me under fitted or knit tops. The Porcelain Plunge doesn’t give my breasts a ton of lift or projection, but the shape is pretty round and front-and-center. Read more 155 more words
I made peace with Jasmine https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" /> When I first put it on, the gore wouldn't lay flat, I couldn't tighten the straps short enough, the bra felt really uncomfortable, The wires dug in at the arpit and at the bottom, I couldn't pull the wires where they are supposed to be - I felt there is not enough space for my boobs around them, and the fabric of the cups gave me a rash on my right boob o.O Now, this bra needs to be washed before you even try it on !! Except for the rash, those were all basic problems I ...have with most my bras. HOWEVER
I managed to bend the wires to fit me comfortably, I even bent the gore to lay flat. I realized that wih some fiddling I could shorten the straps even on the padded part. Now Jasmine fits like a dream https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />))
The band Perfect, snug, back fat minimising, 3 hooks and quite sturdy
The straps Too thin if you ask me. Nicely padded, you can adjust all the way with some playing around, but I don't think theye are ment to be fully adjustable.
The wires They are narrower and shorter than most panache wires. I really see this as an major improvement. The gore is also narrower.
The cups 4 - part cups with the lace upper section. The fabric is very sturdy and I think it will last. However, the lace seems VERY delicate and thin, and at the same time it's VERY stretchy. I am courious how this will behave with wear. This type of lace could be at the same time the strongest, and the weakest point of the bra. I feel the cups are a bit deeper than the andorra.
The comfort I am really impressed with cup construction - the lace part is great, it's like spidersweb - very thin, silky and I don't feel it at all. The band is really comfortable and snug, I don't even feel the wires that much now that Ive bent them. The only place I feel the bra is the straps - they digg in a bit, my boobs are too heavy for such thin straps.
The shape This one really does give great shape and uplift. The profile is round - but not the fake round you sometimes get from cleo, but more natural round. I even feel like it slightly minimises the bust without compromising on projection. It's not exactly the green shape, but it isn't that far from it - I don't have any boob bumping with arms https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" /> Not really sure how this is possible https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=":D" /> The side support pannel centers the boobs much more than the andorra
Room from improvement - wider straps!!! - print - not really my cup of tea. - I'd like to have this in some lighter colours also, white or nude.
Conclusion Highly reccomend. I think this bra will work for almost every shape out there. Great everyday bra. I feel this bra is anoucing new era in panache bras and I think it is proof that bramakers really hear our feedback.
Oh please, pictures :) I am very curious about how you bent the wires to make it fit :)
I actually bend the wires while wearing the bra. I bend them in the middle, on the very bottom if cups, and at the middle of the gore. I angled it more inwards to make it sit flat. I think this wires are softer than your usual panache :)
Softer wires than usual Panache :O I might need to try this bra after all if only for the wires. I really hate Panache wires.
We really must have the total opposite in rib cage shapes however :D
Thanks for the detailed review Vlatka! I wore it yesterday for the first time. I still think the 30JJ is a bit generous for my smaller breast, but it's a better fit than I originally thought. It indeed must be deeper in the cups than the Andorra, because the Andorra in 30J really was too small for me. But because I already got a kind of orange in a glass thingie on my bigger side, a smaller cup probably won't work either. I just couldn't send it back;) And yes it really gives a great upfront look under clothes. However I was bit a bit black and blue after wearing it for a while, because the center gore won't sit flat on me either - the wires rest thoroughley at breast tissue. Especially my left boob - the bigger one - was a bit black and blue after wearing it. But I will follow your advise and try to bend it. But how did you manage to adjust the non-adjustable part of the straps? On my smaller side I really I need to shorten them a bit more than now is possible;) By the way, I've encountered a white version on Ebay. So it does exist in other colours;)
Wow, I'll look for that, thanks. Now, the straps - you won't be able to shorten it just by pulling up the plastic thingy - you have to pull the strap out with your finger from the middle of the plastic adjuster and then straighten it down - that way you can pull through the padded part too. Am I making any sense? As for the wires - I had the same problem. After bending the gore, you'll have to scoop your boobs away from the gore :)
I think the next version is a flower print. I look forward to that one, I don't like bird prints at all.
The bottom section on Jasmine is cut much higher than the bottom section of Andorra. That's why everyone think it's deeper I assume. While the Andorra has the bottom and upper sections being about the same height the Jasmine is clearly bigger on the bottom.
That's why it's probably a true bummer for me. I am not full where that bra is full :D
You are right! That explains why my nipples aren't peaking through the lace :D :facepalm:
Since I saw you in that Amourette Triumph bra I maybe should have known better than suggesting the Andorra to you :O My boobs are kind of upside down from yours :D
But you should make a bra adventure about the scoping from the center gore! That was genious. I just did it on my Andorra :D
Gervaise, are you sure that wasnt the elomi jasmine? Ive been looking for it, cant find it :(
Eliza, bratabase also reccomended andorra to me :) it's a nice bra, just a bit more east-west than I'd like but not nearly as bad as amourette :))) hate that bra with a passion :) sid the gore thing work on the andorra? i thought everybody did the scooping thing that way :)
eliza, yes I also think the bottom section is higher than on the Andorra. But still it also has a deeper cup, I am quite sure about it;)
Gervaise, Im pretty sure that is not the same bra, the cut is different - this is a 3 part cup, and our jasmine is a 4 part :) Never saw this bra in my life :)
@Vlatka: Can you add pics of you in the Andorra? I'm curious.
Also the scoping from the center gore kind of works but the wires ends a little bit lower.
Gervaise: It being deeper is an even bigger bummer for me. Damn ;/
@Vlatka, after taking a better look at it, I guess you are right. This can't be the same item. Weird...
eliza, to be honest I liked the Andorra more than the Jasmine. Probably indeed because the Andorra has a smaller bottom section. Although the Jasmine gives a better shape under clothes. Like Vlatka says, indeed less east/west-ish. And also a bit firmer than the Andorra. I think Alisa noticed this too when they compared both styles.
Gervaise: Ah I see. The 34J Andorra on the tightest hook on me is perfectly rounded but my boobs are way closer to my body than yours (if I'm in the right size and shape that is!) so I can understand how it can become east and west for you.
@Vlatka, I read you advice again regarding the strap adjust, and now I also managed to non-adjustable part with my fingers:)
Oops. Sloppy me.. I meant: I managed to adjust the non-adjustable part with my fingers;)
Great review, Vlatka. I have also had problems with the wires (have with almost all my bras) but I haven't bent them because first I wanted to send the bra back. Now I have finally ordered a 30JJ of Jasmine. Can't wait for it :):) Btw. Figleaves has a 20% off offer now ;) That Jasmin(e) in white I think this is an old style of Panache, it looks nothing like this one. The will be a new flower version with navy blue lace for next season of Jasmine.
Yes, Panache has reused the name Jasmine for their bras. Very strange move I think but there is clearly an old model out there named Jasmine. It's available from Undercoverexperience as well.
Thanks for that 20% Figleaves discount notice Alica!
Good news for you! :) Panache is coming out not only with Jasmine in a pale pink color for next season (A/W), but there's a new neutral based off the Jasmine coming out that will come in beige and black. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but they're on their way!
Envy and Dahlia I think they are called :)) I know, I will go bankrupt this fall :))
This is the first bra I've ever tried that actually fits me perfectly. The band is nice and snug at the loosest hook, the wires encircle my breasts comfortably as they should , the cups are well filled out without wrinkling, spilling or cutting in anywhere, the shape they give me is natural but nice and rounded and not too East-West for a change, in short: everything is perfect!
Bra description:
A handsome full-cup bra made out of black stretch lace partly underlined with a sheer, very smooth, non-stretch mesh. The whole appearance is quite delicate and subtly sheer. The 'side support slings' on the inside of the cups ...are made out the same smooth, sheer mesh material that is folded double so there's no rough, bumpy or overlocked edge touching the breasts.
Fit:
As said, the fit of this bra is the best I've ever had of any bra. The band closes snugly without feeling constricting at the loosest hook, a very first for me. The centre gore stays lies nice and flat. The underwires are suitably wide (but not overly so) and they feel very comfortable. Apparently, a correctly fitting band DOES make all the difference https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" />
The cups give me a good shape, nothing dramatic, but I'm very happy with it. It's definitely the best I've ever had from a non-padded bra: supported and nicely rounded. I particularly like how my breasts are finally facing FORWARD, instead of their usual East-West. The stretch lace at the top of the cups is forgiving and does not cut in. Although I haven't worn it for very long yet, I feel can comfortably wear this bra despite my fluctuating size (breastfeeding).
The only thing to watch out for in this bra is to not tighten the straps too much. Pull them too tight ant the 'side support sling' will cause a slightly odd shape in the cups: a kind of indentation at the edge of the sling. My 'pear-shaped' breasts (relatively wide base topped with a puffy areola) actually HAVE an indentation at that point naturally so maybe this is something that isn't very noticeable in other breast shapes, but I though I'd mention it anyway.
Appearance:
On me it is indeed a very full cup. I like the look and I'm not concerned with the lace showing under low-cut shirts as it's definitely pretty enough and I prefer seeing lace over cleavage anyway, but if that is not your thing then this is maybe not the bra for you. The bra is pretty and delicate and I just cannot believe how lovely and round my breasts look in it!
Conclusion:
My favourite bra ever! Okay, so I haven't been around in the proper bra size world for that long as this is only my first 'real' bra, but it certainly is a good start https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" />
Edited To Add: I have now also added drop-cup nursing clasps to this bra which makes it even more perfect. Read more 390 more words
After searching for a bra with the perfect fit, I finally found it! I am so happy, because I don't experience any poking or digging in (unless I let my posture slide!) and I fill out the cups perfectly. There is very little wrinkling and they fit me smoothly with no cutting in. I was wary of the lacy part at the tops of the cups, but it is't itchy at all and the rest of the bra is made out of a nice and silky material.
The quality is really good (at least, from what I have seen of bras) and the overall design is ...incredibly gorgeous and sexy. I just wish that this bra came in more colors, because I definitely want to get more! I don't feel like I am being strapped into some sort of boulder-holder because the straps are reasonably narrow.
Unlike the Freya Rio and the Panache Tango II balconette, the cups do not come up nearly as high, which suits my shape quite well. Too much material at the top of the cup means that I get unwanted wrinkles when the rest of the cup is perfectly filled out. This bra works much better for my low cut tops and I was even brave enough to wear it under a light tanktop without any peeking or seam/lace show-through.
This is my favorite bra so far!
Measurements for this bra (and my other 28Gs) will be coming as soon as I can get the time to properly measure them all! Read more 151 more words
The Panache Porcelain fit me very strangely. It flattened me and looked like I was wearing two clamshells. Just as with the Panache Tango II Plunge (3256), the cups are much too far apart and too wide for this size. It causes the breasts to look low and to the sides -- a very unflattering look.
I did love the thin, pliable padding (just 1/8" thick), and really wanted to like this bra. Unfortunately after trying it in 2 sizes I had to give up on it (and Panache bras in general).
TLDR: Another pretty Panache bra, unfortunately a shape mismatch for me.
QUALITY: Excellent quality from Panache. Sturdy seams, nice fabric. Stiff wires like most Panache bras. I bought this in a Bravissimo store location many years ago.
FIT: This bra never really fit me right. It lacks just enough immediate projection that the cups wrinkle and slide down a little during the day, but also the band always rode up on me. It was probably a shape mismatch. The straps were too wide set for me as well, but the cup tension probably wasn't optimal, therfore contributing to that issue. I haven't worn this in a long time so ...it's hard to give a detailed description of fit. I didn't wear it much because the band always sat wrong on me. Stretch lace was a big plus for me when I wore this though!
DESIGN: This bra is pretty. I've always been fond of floral designs and this is no exception. The pink flowers are sweet little color splashes across the black fabric, and I appreciate that the stretch lace also has a floral pattern. I like the loops of string to decorate the straps as well. There's a bow in the middle of the gore, which is nice since I'm a big fan of decorations at the gore. Read more 109 more words
This bra is a winner if I had ordered it in a different cup size.
I find it more comfy than the Panache Envy, the gore isn't tacking as stiffly. It's more of a relaxed feel with the cups. Feels like it would be a really comfy bra to wear throughout the day.
This bra is cute as heck but I need a bigger cup size.
This is my first time reviewing Andorra on Bratabase but I’ve tried it before when I was a 34HH and found out the hard way that the band and cups run small, so this time I tried sizing up.
Honestly, I probably didn’t need to size up in the cup, but definitely needed to size up the band. This bra was TIGHT. Actually, it was partially my fault- you’ll notice that I didn’t upload a back view picture of this bra and the reason is because when I was reviewing the pictures to add I noticed the reason I could only close one hook was because I had ...it hooked on the middle row. 🤦♀️ Either way, still way too tight for me.
The bra is made of lace and has a neat little side sling, I’m guessing to give more side support and bring the ladies forward.
The overall fit was meh, it was not the right wire shape and I have space at the bottom. The wires were also too wide. And the GORE. Holy hell the gore jabbed my sternum so hard! I’m normally having the opposite problem with bras lately so I was not psyched about that stabbing pain either.
I probably won’t try Andorra again, I’m just not a fan. It actually reminds me a little of Freya Fancies in construction and fit. Read more 120 more words
I recently bought this and returned it after wearing it for 6 hours. The wires are too hard. The non wired version feels better.
Busty_and_Trans they were seriously so uncomfortable! I think Panache is known for hard wires but this one was one of the most uncomfortable bras I’ve ever tried lol.
Another sad fit, definitely too large in the cups but the band was actually okay. I knew Panache and Andorra in particular runs snug so I made sure to size up. Unfortunately I also sized up in the cups and it didn’t work out too well. Wires too wide, cups actually too wide and too separated which gave me an east-west thing going on there. Not a fan of the color either, but this one was already not a keeper anyway.
This is my first time reviewing the Panache Tango on Bratabase, but I have tried it one other time before, though I don’t remember the size I remember it was too small in the band and cups.
This bra is just sad. Like literally, my boobs are growing, can you see it? They always say go big or go home, and, well, I definitely went big on this one. Too big in fact.
The actual bra itself is a nice sturdy construction, but that being said there’s no stretch to it. I’ve always seen this bra being touted as one for FOB folks, so I guess this is ...too FOB for me maybe, otherwise I’m not sure what the deal is here. The cups obviously are way too big, as seen by the gaping and wrinkles everywhere. I liked how full coverage it was, but that was about where it stopped. The wires are too long and pokey, and it’s just so…sad looking. The band was nice and snug.
I won’t blame Panache for this one, as I’m sure it fits great when it’s the right size and shape, but it’s obviously not for me.
PS- I hate the color, but I’m definitely a beige/nude/tan hater anyway so 🤷♀️ Read more 101 more words
FOB/Projected. Pro: I love the color. So pretty and fun! Mesh leaf embroidery fabric also very cute. Cons: Everything else. Tops of the cups gaped on both cups, wrinkles on bottom near outer underwire, gore came up a bit too high, and all in all gave me an unflattering shape. Return to sender!
The fabric is amazing; it's soft, pretty, and supportive. Well-made, as you would expect from Panache. Good projection, rounded shape (on me). The seams don't show TOO much once you've worn it a bit; the most obvious seam is the horizontal one. The straps are set a bit wide, as with most balconnets, but wasn't quite a problem for me. The band rolls out a bit in front under the wires - normal for me because I'm short-waisted and my stomach sticks out. I think overlapping the gore and putting shorter wires in will solve the most urgent fit issues for me.
Back when I was a 32H, I owned this bra, and loved it so much I collected colorways like they were Pokemon. I would literally go to Intimacy/Rigby and Peller and buy the colors they had in stock, then scour Amazon for the ones they didn't have. Then dark days came (i.e. I outgrew all my bras), and I frantically searched high and low for Claras in long-since discontinued colors. I eventually found it on eBay in both plum/silver and emerald/gold, and practically wept tears of joy when I tried them on. Yes, they do fit me in a 32J, which is fortunate since that's the biggest size the Clara comes in. The gore tacks, the wires are comfortable, and I don't get any quadding. The photos I took don't do the colors justice.
It looks great on you. I love the Clara, such a beautiful bra, it hates me though 😂 The 28 band is too big and the wires are agony. I still have it sat in my drawer though!
It is a lovely bra. If you are going to Pokemon a model, this is a pretty good choice. :)
Heck yes I think the Clara is suchhhh a beautiful bra, my personal favorite is the peacock/petrol color with navy blue.
Sadly I passed it on to a friend as it didn't fit me right, but I keep being tempted whenever I see a Clara online.
I purchased the Tango in a 32J in both Pale Jade (light green) and Tiger Lily (orange). To my surprise, the pale jade one seemed to fit perfectly, and the tiger lily was a little too big (wrinkling at the top of the cup). Currently, the tiger lily is a better fit for me. Since the pale jade was an older colorway, maybe the Tango has been redesigned recently? Back when I was a 32H, I owned the Tango in pale jade, blue/gold, wisteria, and forest, and all the colorways seems to fit me the same way back then. I'm hoping Panache brings back some of the old colors eventually, because orange is not exactly my color.
My shape is low set, short and narrow rooted, and soft.
I previously tried a 30E - Panache » Cari Moulded Spacer Bra (7961), but the cups were too small. The band, however, was perfect in the 30". I knew that the band on this 28FF may be a bit tight when I bought it based on how the 30" fit (and from reading reviews), but I wasn't expecting it to be quite as firm as it is. I bought this one off ebay for a bit less than the 30F, so I thought it would be fine. I can fasten it alright without an extender, but ...I find it much more comfortable with the extender on the 2nd or even the 3rd set of hooks. The straps are fully adjustable and they have a J hook on the back, which is a nice feature since I don't have any racerback bras or other J hook bras currently. The detail on the band of the bra is pretty...the bottom of the gore comes up in an upside down V, which makes it look nice. The pattern on the gore and lower band is little circles. The shape that the bra gives is nice and rounded, but perhaps slightly minimized. The cups fit me perfectly! It's a great everyday bra really. I have a feeling I'll get a lot of wear out of this one because the cups fit so well and look great under a t-shirt. The cups have the spacer foam, which is flexible and not very thick.
Overall, it's constructed very well and is of excellent quality from what I can tell (only tried on so far). The comfort is great as long as I'm using the extender. A 30F would have been better of course. The appearance is okay being that it's beige, but this bra in another colour looked quite nice. Read more 207 more words
I keep thinking about getting one of these again. I do have sacrifice fit a bit but it does look amazing under clothes!
confused Same here! My current one in 28F is perfect in the wires and cup volume, but the top edge is just a little too closed off on me and gives me quadboob. But I just love it because it's so comfortable, and I always try to wear it with clothing where the quadboob won't be as noticeable lol
The Panache Idina was one of the few "older" Panache bras I haven't tried yet. But I was always curious about it. It's discontinued now but can be found for low price on ebay, that's where I found mine. It's an interesting bra - but it did not work for me.
First, the Idina is not like other Panache balconettes. I speak of Jasmine / Envy / Floris cut, they have very deep projected cups. Idina has moderately deep cups. It is also not like Tango Full cup cut, as it's wires and gore are lower. I also find the wires to be one of the narrowest wire ...I found on a Panache bra. So it's narrow, moderately deep - sound good, but for my tall shape (+ full-on-top) it is not tall enough. There isn't enough coverage and therefore less support in the upper cup (which I also need at my size ). It kinda looks on me like a half cup. Or maybe it is just too small. As the Idina stops at a J-cup I cannot try a larger size and the band already is stretchy enough so I shouldn't size up to 34J. If I compare the cup height of Panache Idina to a bra that fits me well aka 30JJ - Bravissimo » Lacey Bra (LN486) then I notice that the Lacey cup fabric comes like 2 cm higher than Idina cup. So that explains why I cannot work for me.
I'd recommend it though if you need a shorter cup and all Panache bras have been too tall for you. The fabric is super nice and soft, the bottom cup is lined and the top half is a stretchy lace. The color is a pale beige that works well on pale skin types. It's overall well made and it felt supportive when I wore it... I just had issues with the top part and slight quadboob above the cups. Read more 219 more words
I have this for at least a year but didn't wear it very often so I somehow forgot to review it. But it proved to be really light and comfortable during the last extremely warm summer months.
The design is unobtrusive but very pretty. I like the transparent lace, the shiny straps and the lack of big colorful bows. The cup fabric reminds me of old wallpapers. But it's blue and I'm a sucker for blue so that's fine.
Like others have said, the fabric in front is very scratchy on the outside and mildly scratchy on the inside and it doesn't get better with washing. I don't mind that ...but it could be a problem if it's chafing or if you have very sensitive skin. The lace is made of the same soft and stretchy material used on the Panache Andorra and Cleo Kayla and the band consists of a thin breathable mesh.
The fit is different from my other Cleo / Panache bras that tend to push all my breast tissue to the center. It's supportive but my boobs just keep their natural wide and projected shape. I didn't like this at first but it is a welcome change now that I own so many bra that make a super round shape. Also because my boobs get really achy when I only wear ball shaped bras like my Cleo Meg ( http://bra.pe/XYNg/ ) or Marcie ( http://bra.pe/XYLq/ ) for several days. Maybe they want to express their personality and don't like to be forced into an artificial geometric shape all the time https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />
The wires have the same narrow shape as in my Panache Andorra ( http://bra.pe/XYit/ ). But they are more flexible, so they fit a bit too wide ending about 1.5 cm behind by breast tissue. But they don't poke me and I even find it more comfortable to have the wires sit in a slightly different spot from time to time. The band fits pretty snug but has enough give to remain comfortable during a 12 hour workday.
Quality is great: The color is still really intense and nothing has stretched out after at least 15 washes. Read more 262 more words
I feel you! Still have like 500€ worth of pants hanging around that are just a tiny bit too small. But loosing that last 2kg is so freaking hard.
I'm just not able to wear a Jasmine in my shape. I have tried it in multiple sizes and none have worked. I'm fine with the view from the front, but the side view is pointy due to my soft tissue sinking into the deeper cups. Or something.
But this looks great on you except for the tight band in the back, but I know that it's something that you prefer.
I think pointy look usually means you are more FOB and its a very FOT friendly shape. I mean, its a little bullet-like on me, but I liked that in my shape - i wore it esp under big bulky sweaters to give some shape
Calluna Did you also get the pointy shape in a smaller cup size?
It's kinda hard to predict the shape of Panache bras and for me it also depends a lot on the size. For example the Andorra makes a nice round shape in a 28F but a 30F looks cone like and a 30E is still a bit pointy because the wires are not pulled wide enough. But looking through all the other pictures makes me think that soft vs firm tissue is also a factor.
dbmamaz im only slightly ful on bottom. When I do the leaning over test, my nipples are mostly straight down. They lean towards my face slightly. My 30F Marcie only has a little bit of a gap on my larger side.
aboobaccount pointy in all sizes of Jasmine. Let me compile all the existing pictures of me in Panache bras.
Ok. I apparently didn't get pics of Jasmine in 28F and 28FF or I've already purged them from my phone. I'm sure I had some at some point. In the nude. I'm going to have a second look though. In the meantime, here's everything I have left.
The black Envy is from the time I was first fitted into a 28F. I was surprised when I was able to get it on, but it was hella tight and felt like it was going to ping off any time. I had a valley of flesh under the band. I asked for a 30E. It was more comfortable than the 28F, though the fitter insisted that it was not a good fit (technically). I have also tried Envy in 32DD and 32E, neither pictured, but I can go back to add the 32E which I have still, I think.
Next is Clara. I was pretty happy with the fit in terms of feeling of it though I have a bit of wrinkles at the wire and I spill a little bit in the 30E. I tried a 30FF that day because I was curious about the colour combination. As it was close to fitting, I later went back and tried the 30F. The 30F was the best fit of the 3, but the wrinkles at the wire continued.
Next up is Jasmine in 32DD. Looks great from the front and angle though not the side. I'm sure that I tried it in 28F and 28FF. I'll see I have a valid imgur link for the fit that included one of them or both. I will look through my phone again as well.
From my trip to a shop in Vancouver, I have a 30E Olivia and 30F Ardour. I did try a 30F Olivia and I had a better fit, but I must have purged my pics of it. This one was a good fit but the gore was wide and high. I'm not sure if I could do it all day. I tried a Panache Lois but I was not fond of it. I liked Ardour but worried that it was too shallow. It doesn't look like it is, but I kept feeling like it was trying to or going to slip.
Let me see if I can locate the other Jasmine pics...
Here's the 30F Clara and 28FF Jasmine (and a few other bras). None are the 28F Jasmine but it's not significantly different. You can see the Jasmine is pointy no matter how many sizes I try.
Looks like the Envy and the Jasmine are based on the same cut that causes this pointy profile on you and a smaller band size doesn't change that. So I don't know what the fitter meant by suggesting that the 28F would be a better fit technically. Maybe she was just focusing on your snug and tight under bust measurement that indicate this size. But if the 30 band gives you enough lift and support, and it looks like it does, there is no reason to go tighter.
I only wear a 28F instead of a 30F because it actually gives more support. In most styles the shape is basically the same but in the 28F my breasts litterally don't move at all, which feels more secure when I'm outside or at work.
The Clara looks very nice in a 30F and the seans one the cups are similar to the ones on the Andorra so it could be worth a try but I'm just guessing. The Fantasie Marianna is very pretty indeed. Too bad they always use these stiff ribbons instead of something flexible. I think the Olivia and the Adour are the best shape wise.
I also wonder what the Cleo Hettie or Kayla would look like on you. For me the shape is somewhere between the Marcie and the Andorra.
aboobaccount yes, the styles are similar. Jasmine is a little shorter and the cups are a little bit different, but very close styles. And what she meant was that the way the 28F fit compared with the 30E, it was the better technical fit. The fitter agreed that the style is not right for me though, regardless of size. There were some things that she pointed out that made her feel that way, but some of the things were debunked, for lack of a better word. And the fitters, more than one felt the same way, also said that it has to be comfortable or I would not wear it. So comfort and technical fits might not be the same.
Clara is too shallow with the wrinkles at the wire. Shape is still a bit pointy, but not as bad. But under a work shirt it would not be a problem. I’ve told to try Ava plunge and Andorra...but I’m told Andorra is really pointy. However, since I know other styles work better, I feel like I should get what looks and feels best.
Ardour is nice. I thought that it might be a little bit too shallow but it looks like maybe it’s average projection and possibly doable for shorter periods. Olivia is a good shape but I don’t think that I can manage that gore.
I have keeping my eyes open for a Kayla and Hettie in a 30E at a good price, but I have other bra priorities for now. Im not sure how my soft tissue will react with them since they are known for being deep and projected and that is part of the problem with Envy and Jasmine. I’m looking at maybe getting an Ewa BM in the next month. Or possibly the Ellace in 30F. I have a few in mind...
And yeah...I’m with you on the Fantasie Marianna. I’m curious if a larger size would be a better fit and also if I were to pull the stiff ribbon out if that would do the trick.
Calluna Looking at your pictures again, I think going up a cup size in the Marianna will leave you with even more empty space on the sides. Probably the cup volume is about right in the size you tried but it just doesn't have enough room in the center and the ribbon amplifies this problem. So IMO pulling it out is not worth the risk unless you can get it super cheap.
I have similar problem to with the stiff lining below the lace of my Cleo Zia ( http://bra.pe/Ihd7/ ): It doesn't really cut in but sometimes my breasts decide to swell up during the day and it gets uncomfy. So I thought about doing this alteration ( http://bra.pe/Ig53/ ). But I can't find the Zia in my size anymore and it's one of my favorites which makes me afraid of messing it up.
Interesting. I didn’t think I had a lot of extra space on the sides of the Marianna, but I am center full, so I do lack outer tissue and have trouble filling out the sides in bras.
This bra is gorgeous. It reminds me of a carribean night. The name means "dove" in Spanish. The print is reminiscent of palm trees. There is beautiful scalloped lace across the tops of the cups, and it is echoed at the bottom of the gore. If this bra had the fabric continued around the back it would be so pretty to wear in lieu of a bralette with an open backed shirt. The fabric is mesh, perfect for hot summer days.
This is a bra whose straps do not adjust as short as I need. Of all the bras I have tried this is the first bra ...whose straps don't adjust enough, which I imagine may be a bigger problem for people who tend to need shorter straps. Like other Panache bras, the wires are a bit too wide, I have about a thumb width of fabric beyond where my breasts end under my arm. Related to this, also similar to other Panache bras, the upper edge of the cups are way in to my arm pits. I think this bra is for someone who is more full on top, I am not getting a smooth line across the top. The bra does have enough immediate projection for me, and the gore is comfortable for my close set breasts, although is hovers just barely off of my sternum. Finally, this bra does not give me a very supported shape, the top of my breasts just go in a straight line down like a ski jump. Read more 155 more words
That is such a pretty bra! The shape it gives you looks sorta retro, like a 50's lady, if that makes sense. :) I've always had the same problems with Panache bras eating into my armpits, as well. It's too bad this doesn't work for you! It's really a gorgeous print.
I wonder what that bra would do on someone who already has a pointy shape.
Thank you for the Spanish lesson. :-) Such a beautiful word, fabric, and bird. I wish Panache would try some new design characteristics.....
This bra reminds me of easter. I have the mint and lavender colorway. The spring colors are combined with the delicate feminine touches like ruffles on the straps and thin ribbon edging.
This bra comes close to fitting. The gore tacks, but my close set breasts push one wire overlapping the other. The wires seem very wide, and there is a bit of empty space on my sides. Thankfully the wires do not go up to high to poke in to my armpits. The bottom part of the underwire curve presses a bit uncomfortably into my ribs, I suspect it would bother me more if I wore it all day. The bra is wearable for me, but gives me a rather pointy shape, which is not what I prefer.
So, I had tried a 32JJ red floral floris last year, and it seemed huge and I returned it. But this was a good deal, NWT, and this white floral colorway I had actually bought myself for a birthday present in 32J, and was pretty bummed that it no longer fit, so I was pretty excited to have it. Which is probably part of why i will forgive some problems with this bra!
It is slightly too big. There is some loose fabric on the top - but this happened with the 32J when I first tried it, too - since there is no stretch, there ...is very little wiggle room between loose fabric and quadding. But the loose lace does not show under shirts
The wires on my smaller side poke me in the armpit, esp in certain positions (like driving). I dont remember any other bra doing that so much, and I assume its a combination of slightly too wide wires - I do have empty fabric on my smaller side - and the slightly higher wires in this size.
As usual, its a more projected (almost pointy) shape which I like under more shapeless clothing, to give more definition. The cups give great support. It feels like my boobs are strapped in to a harness with lots of hardware holding it in place - which is not super comfy, but at least it does not require as many adjustments throughout the day as my EMs do.
Its big enough, firm, and I do like the pattern, but no, the proportions in this size are not quite right for me.
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Excellent support!! Wow! I completely understand why you recommend this bra. Gorgeous!
Yes, when I fit the 32J, it was the first bra I'd found that really, really fit! I was so sad that I grew out of it. But i cant seem to stop gaining weight . . . but at least the girls are still supported
Looks great on you .. very good support too
dbmamaz I wonder if the Thea, which is a sister cut with stretch lace on top, would be right fit you in the 32J? It gave me so much lift my boobs pointed up, but there was no cutting in because of the firm stretch lace top.
I have a jasmine in 32JJ, and it fits fine .. similarly to the floris, but slightly better I think, but the fabric is sorta itchy. Mostly, i'm happier w EMs. I need her upcoming purple SF!!
Your Jasmine probably fits better because it's a four part cup instead of a three part cup like this one . I find that the three part cups have that extra room on the side near the armpit and always a bit of loose upper cup lace on me. Something to consider . I am beginning to think I need a purple sf lol
I really, really like this bra on you dbmamaz! It looks really good!
Thank you! I had bought THREE Floris when I was a 32J, but then I outgrew them and fell in love w EMs. I do wonder if I ever lose weight if they'll fit again - you never know how bodies change
Oh please, pictures :) I am very curious about how you bent the wires to make it fit :)