No matter how much a manufacturer pads their wires, .9" gore widths are still too wide. And, Wacoal is not known for center projection. This bra seems well-suited for average root width, average projection, average space between breasts. I would really appreciate an unlined @Wacoal for close-set, center-full, immediately projected breasts. However, the other Awareness features are so wonderful, I'll purchase a used model and replace/trim wires to a suitable size and overlap the gore ...wires for my short-waisted, close set, center-full self.
The lift and rounding are excellent. In fact, this is my favorite unlined shape, to date.
Sincerely, if comfort is important, Wacaol thoughtfully designs bras with comfort in mind. These features are expensive and time consuming, but I now better understand the list price. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />
I'll post an update when I've successfully modified the gore on a used model. Read more 71 more words
Despite how it sounds on paper, this is the best bra fit I've found so far. I suspect that my cup size is actually slightly larger than this, because the similar Wacoal 855170 was definitely too small. The 85567 (of which I have seven, so I feel confident in them) is a little too small in the cup volume and underwire height and the gore doesn't quite lie flat against the sternum, but it gives fantastic support and feels as if it fits (even though it doesn't, quite).
I had a professional fitting at Nordstrom, but she never told me my measurements or size, just threw three 80$ ...bras of various sizes in with me (I had told her I was on a budget and she had sounded sympathetic, maybe she was hoping I wouldn't actually check the prices? I literally can't afford not to check prices); she threw in a couple others after I found her and asked if she had anything on sale, and thus I ended up with a beige Wacoal 85567 34H for 45$ (although there were bras that fit better, I couldn't afford them).
If I'd known then what I know now, I would have written down which brands/models/sizes fit me because I could have looked for them in sales or auctions (20/20 hindsight)
I do have the problem with this bra that I have with every underwire bra I've ever had (at any size) in that it can initially fit very well but after some hours of wearing it, the fabric pulls off the underwire so it starts pinching at the side because I will now have bare fabric at the top of the underarm-underwire which causes the breast to spill over slightly and get pinched.
Despite how this sounds, it feels so good every time I put one on! (and wear it all day)
Gives fantastic support Straps are wide at shoulder so bra doesn't start digging into shoulders Three hooks at back give full support Although can be hard to get on initially due to tight band, band seems to stretch just enough to be easier to put on and not get too stretched out (I have had my 85567s for three months as of November, and I have three pre-owned one of which was fairly used before I got it and all of which have the same excellent sizing and support so I am guessing they won't over-stretch as long as taken care of, e.g. hand-washed in delicate and never machine-dried etc. Pretty good-looking for such good support
After wearing for a few hours, underwire "hides" and causes pinching on breast tissue under arm -- but this may or may not be the bra, as I always have this issue with any bra. (It's like the underwire is smaller than the channel it is placed in) Can be expensive Could be available in more/prettier colors
[ EDIT: the bra I took the pictures of is a Cappucino-colored one I bought new, not the beige one I got for 45$ ] Read more 393 more words
Band a bit loose, need to use tightest hooks new. Stretchy material. Comfortable, good coverage, gore too wide and tall for me...tacks at bottom, floats at top. I like the width of underwire for my wide roots, i also like the profile under clothing
Probably not for everyone, but I love it. On me, it definitely minimizes and compresses. It holds my breast tissue firmly against my body in a way that lets me basically forget I have breasts. I like that feeling sometimes -- all spare and sylph-like. Also my best bra for wearing under button-down shirts -- not only does it help them fit better, I like the way I look better (I only wear button down shirts when I'm going for that kind of gamine look).
I used to have this in 32DDD and it was always a tidge too small (but I loved the compression and was afraid of ...going bigger). 34G is a better and more comfortable fit, and still gives me the held-in feeling I want from this bra.
It's more utilitarian than pretty (though I do like the bright seasonal colors, when I can get them!), and it's not at all compatible with very open necklines, but those aren't deal breakers for me.
Interestingly, the wires extend much further under my arms than the ones on other Wacoal bras I have in the same size. This means that there is about an inch of cup fabric that's just lying flat against my body on the outer undersides. But the cups fit well otherwise and when I've tried going down a cup size, they're too small, so maybe this is done on purpose to achieve the minimization? I don't know! If any of you elite bra geeks reads this and knows what's up, I'd love to learn. Read more 148 more words
Wacoal is using a not-standard sizing system. I usually wear a 34H, but Wacoal sizing chart recommends 38DDD. That is a significant difference to the standard.
I am putting in effort to find a version of this bra that fits because I have an older model and it was my favorite bra. I want a new one, and I'm going to try to find what a 34H means in their custom sizing system!
This bra is a great every day bra. It is very comfortable, even when lounging on the couch. The straps are exceptionally wide and padded, and rest on the bone of the shoulder preventing irritation on the ...muscles. The new version has put padding around the wire to make it even more comfortable. It doesn't push the breasts up, it just lets them rest in a location that is natural and unobtrusive.
This bra, the 36H, has a band that is too tight for someone who generally has a 34 band. The cups are bigger than this model's 34H, so they are sizing up the cup size with the band size. The underwire is wider than the 34H's cup causing it to dig into my armpit.
The 34H was a perfect cup size, but the band intolerably too tight. A 38DDD may be the size that is expected for a standard 34H. Read more 113 more words
IMPORTANT NOTE: Wacoal is using non-standard band sizing, by an extreme degree. I bought this many years ago and wanted a replacement. Today, a 34H is too tight. A 38DDD is the actual clone of my old 34H version. Note that the cup size is a sister to the original.
In summary, this has been my favorite bra for years, and I would recommend it to anyone. I wore it so much I needed a replacement, but discovered the new version uses Wacoal's new band sizing method, making the band size on a 34H too small.
Straps: The straps are wide set sitting mostly on the bone of the ...shoulder and a little bit on the muscle, minimizing muscle irritation. The straps are a whopping 1.25" and nicely padded. It feels great.
Band and Underwire: My first US 34H bra had a great fitting band and underwire. It was easily a casual wear bra, where I could even slouch on the couch to watch TV without being irritated. The new US 34H bra is much different. The underwire digs into my 32" rib cage right way. It was so intolerable, I thought it had to be a mistake and returned it. I've now discovered Wacoal is using non-standard sizing.
Support: Great. Most of the support is on the torso, and the straps are wide and positioned well to handle the little weight they carry.
Comfort: Great. A bra that can be worn for casual occasions and slouch or curl up on a couch with little irritation. A great any-occasion bra. Read more 149 more words