This is a really gorgeous bra, but I am very sad to say that it’s not a good fit for me, and altering it would only fix some of the problems. The gore is too wide, as are the cups, and the cups are too tall and open. The band is fine, I think, and the cup material was nice, as is the colour and embroidery. It’s going back though, along with the Fancies which also does not fit. I almost decided to keep it because it was so cheap but it doesn’t seem to work under my clothes well, and it’s too nice to have under my blah work shirt and sweater. I did rather return them both and try something else.
My shape: tall shallow-rooted teardrop with max immediate projection/depth, very wide full side roots shaped like the Nike swoosh, center-height, forward-facing, very close-set, with very firm self-supporting tissue
The Kiyoko is a 3-part half-cup modeled on the Freya Patsy Padded Half Cup Bra (1223) , but it is not anywhere near an exact replica. I was really hoping it would be, because my 28G - Freya » Patsy Padded Half Cup Bra (1223) is my best fitting bra right now, and this one is so pretty with the black and pink abstract floral embroidery that looks so delicate (and I am a complete sucker for ...embroidery). It is a beautiful soft shade of pink with tiny black swiss dots and a sheer embroidered overlay on the cups.
Sadly, it's just not to be. For one, the cups are not the same: shallower at the base, slightly closed on top (?!) probably due to the black edging which is striking and pretty but has very little give, and a bit of extra room over the apex that poofs ever so slightly on my extremely shallow upper root. The top edge cuts me off a teensy bit when it's not buckling from how far apart the straps are out in my armpits. I wonder if this fits more like a Lauren? I haven't yet tried a Lauren clone by Freya, but I love my Fauve half-cups and loads of them are supposed to be based on the Lauren.
The gore is too tall and too wide, though it doesn't bother me when I first swoop and scoop. It chafes and pokes as the bra shifts down, though, which happens pretty quickly because the band is so big. What is up with this band? Stretchy bands are a Freya Thing™, as we all know, but this is ridiculous. In the photos it's on the tightest hook, and I can still pull it away a good 3 or 4 inches.
The wires are ok. There is maybe a whole cm of space in the channel to play with, if you need to push them out or in to avoid digging. They are fairly stiff, I'd say, but not as bad as some other brands. They are too steeply curved for me, a not-really-a-problem I have with literally every bra I've ever tried, except in this case it is a problem because they are almost falling out of my IMF due to the looseness of the band and the push from my immediate projection. I lose the outer cup support and the wire at the wing is then too low, which means tissue tries to escape and it starts to dig, something I rarely ever have to contend with. None of this is the wire's fault, though, and it's all still in the band.
I'd also just like to say that the straps are gorgeous: wider than normal, matching pink spotted stretch satin, and just very prettily finished with picot trim and symmetrical seams. Very comfy, fully adjustable, super soft. If only they weren't so far apart, but no one's surprised by that.
So basically, in my personal opinion, size down at least one and maybe two bands for this model, and too bad for me there aren't any smaller bands. Between the shallowness in the lower cups and the complete lack of support from the band, I was doomed from the start! It's so pretty I hate to return it, but back it goes. Read more 470 more words
Vertical 3 seamed soft padded bra, very open on top.
Initially the centre gore dug in painfully but after bending them back slightly the bra is much more comfortable. I personally find a bit of quadding in the centre (it seems the gore is slightly too wide for me) but elsewhere the fit is ok. Not sure why but I'm very underwhelmed by this bra, even the appearance!
I find the material a little scratchy but it could improve after washing. Returning due to the too wide centre gore.
This bra is so pretty, so I'm really sad it doesn't work for me. The cups fit well on my smaller breast, but the nipple on my larger side is threatening to pop out the top of the cup. The top of the cups are very open, and I worry that going up a size will result in gapping, especially on my smaller side.
The detailing on the cups are very evident through light/thin shirts.
When I tried this bra in the fitting room two months ago, I thought it was the answer to my problems. It's sadly been a letdown.
After a lot of experimentation a few years back, I gave up and decided to live in a couple of Freya Marvels (which have held up amazingly well), but as I gained a little weight over the last six months and I know the Marvels won't last forever, I took the opportunity while in London to stop at Bravissimo for a fitting. In the dressing room, this hit most of my requirements - open top, relatively closely set cups (not enough, but ...better than most Panache), a firm band, a deeper cup than Marvel, and a low gore that doesn't pinch.
Unfortunately, this band has stretch super powers. I don't think I've worn the bra even ten times since purchase, and I'm already using the tightest hooks (the Marvel, by the way, is still great on the loosest ones). Because the band has become so stretchy and the wires are not particularly sturdy, it just doesn't want to hold the cups in place, and they therefore slide down just enough to cause bubbling over the top of the cup - in one of the photos, you can see this starting to happen. I can't help thinking that some of this would be resolved by three hooks rather than two on the GG+ bands, but Freya seems opposed to that. I don't think a 30H will have enough room in the top, and this bra stops at an H.
I don't recommend this bra in the larger sizes, which is a shame as it's a real struggle to find a GG+ bra with low gores. It's just not structured well enough for a proportionally larger bust. If you want to try it and you're between bands, however, I suggest sizing down rather than up (my snug band is 30.5-31").
I'm off to see if I can find another couple of Marvels.
I'm sure you can find a better fit. I don't have much upper fullness (and I have short roots), and I have a hard time finding bras that aren't too tall on me. Check out my profile if you need ideas of bras to try. You'll see how they all fit me as I have pictures posted.
Wilderness1 Thanks. Because I have soft malleable tissue, it can look like I have upper fullness in some styles, but I really don't. I do think that if this bra was less wide and the cups were a smidge shorter, it would fit better. I'm going to see what works for you. Thanks. I'll check out your profile.
I am in your size range so I couldn't resist reading your review. This bra is SO pretty - it's a shame it's not a great fit. This exact same thing happens to me if cups are even slightly too deep: the cups gape and look like they're not filled at all. Sometimes if I then go down a cup, I "overflow" and get quad boob galore. I wonder if this bra would work if you go down a cup size? I think you could possibly go down a band size as well...the straps are way too far apart for you. My "@Freya Size" is 28DD without fail. It sounds ridiculously small, but Freya seems to have long bands and deep cups. Freya is not the best fit for me, either, but I find it impossible to resist some of their beautiful bras.
ShaniSunAZ Hi! Thanks for your input. I have considered a band and cups change. I think that I might be able to swing a 28 in this one, but I'm not sure if I can swing a cup size down. Pretty sure I would overflow. Besides, two main issues are the gore being too wide and the cups are just a smidge too tall. And I don't think that the size down would affect the cup width enough, because I'm center full anyway, with soft tissue, and not likely to fill the sides still. But you never know, if if find a super cheap 28E/F, I might try it again. But it's not a priority for me right now.