I ordered this bra together with the HM Gold and the PL Onyks -- all in the same size 65E -- on October 2nd. The package arrived on October 5th, which really is exceptionally fast, in my opinion. Of the three bras I mentioned above, this one fits second best. Considering the fact that I completely guessed my size I'm pleased to find that SOMETHING more or less fit, however, it goes to show that there is some size discrepancy between the different models. I will also review the other two bras.
A sleek, black, matt satin bra with black, shiny satin binding along the cup edge. ...Two shiny, faceted, black buttons whimsically decorate the centre gore. the cups are lined with black cotton jersey. The lining contains pockets for the included sturdy foam 'cookies'. The bra comes with two kinds of detachable straps: regular 12mm wide straps and padded, 32mm (at their widest) wide comfort straps made out of the same matt satin the cups are made of and edged with shiny satin bias binding. The comfort straps are, unfortunately, only partially adjustable.
I wasn't looking for a padded bra but this one came up as having similar measurements to my Panache Andorra, so I was intrigued. I was amazed to find that this bra fit me ALMOST perfectly. I was even more amazed at the shape it gave me: exactly the kind of shape I've always wished for -- lifted and round, the way my breasts are when I cup them with my hands. In fact, the bra is so comfortable and soft that it almost feels AS IF I'm cupping them with my hands. This bra gives me a lovely cleavage without being tacky -- The plunge version is sexier, but this one comes close second, yet it's sleek, understated appearance makes it chic rather than tacky.
I find the cups fit better and more comfortably without the thick foam cookies in place. For some reason in this model the pad doesn't help to even out the asymmetry between my larger right and smaller left side -- the smaller side remains definitely worse fitting with the cup edge gaping quite badly (tightening the strap further seems to help a bit, but the comfort strap does not adjust far enough). My larger breast on the other hand fits absolutely perfectly, BETTER than in the plunge version, so I'm not sure what's up with that. On my larger side, this bra gaps much less that the plunge version when I reach forward and also doesn't produce quad-boob when I pull my shoulders back.
In contrast to the same size PL Onyks, the band on this 65E Padded Half Cup is too loose for my 69cm underbust, as I can comfortably close it at the tightest hook. I definitely have to go down one band size and go for a 60/28 band in this model. It is also quite stretchy, so fingers crossed it won't stretch too much too soon. However, there are four hook positions to fasten it, so it shouldn't really be much of a problem.
The straps placement is very wide, although I somehow don't experience the problem of cutting into my arms the way other bras do. I have wide and straight shoulders, so they stay very well put, but I think that on someone with narrower shoulders they may slip.
The band of this CH Onyx 65E is at least a full size looser than the band of the PL Onyks of the same size. The cups of this bra fit more or less the same as PL Onyks, size-wise. Shape-wise I think they are better for my wide-set, high-up-my-chest and wide-based breasts than the cups of the plunge version. I don't really know why, it just feels that way. It may also be that I think the half cup style fits me better, I'm not sure.
I am considering returning this marvel of a bra it and exchanging it for a smaller band and possibly size. I'm thinking 60E (according to the EM measurement table here http://www.ewa-michalak.pl/Size-Calculator-chelp-eng-10.html). This would put me into custom-made and non-returnable territory though, which is a slightly terrifying prospect. However, this bra is just so freakishly lovely and comfortable that I just WANT it to fit me. Of the three it is, at the moment, my favourite and definitely a style that suits me and will be worn IF I can get it to fit.
Edited To Add: I've tried all the three bras on again this morning and for some reason MOST of the fitting issues I noted yesterday evening have disappeared. I think my breasts are fuller in the morning than in the evening (breastfeeding).
The CH Onyx is STILL a full size too loose in the band, but the gaping is quite a bit less so that one could possibly be exchanged for a 60F, IF I can muster up the courage to enter into custom-made territory. Maybe for good measure though I should at least TRY a smaller cup size first, if only for comparison, as the gaping has not TOTALLY gone. The thing is, I THINK this one is essentially a better fit than the PL Onyks, as it doesn't produce quad boob when I move my shoulders back, nor gape terribly when I move my arms forward (only a tiny little bit, compared to the plunge). Dilemma, dilemma ... Read more 796 more words
*** The fit is set without extender, ergo the 'doesn't fit'. With extender this bra fits absolutely perfectly though. ***
I ordered this bra as an exchange for the 65E CH Onyx I tried earlier. That one run too loose in the band and the cups and wires too were a less than perfect fit. In a conversation following a fitting help request for a different Ewa Michalak bra it was mentioned that instead of 'true' sister sizing, Ewa Michalak cup sizes differ by half a cup. 60F would be half a cup size up from 65E, which indeed seemed what I needed, hence my decision to have ...this bra custom-made.
A sleek, black, matt satin bra with black, shiny satin binding along the cup edge. Two shiny, faceted, black buttons whimsically decorate the centre gore. the cups are lined with black cotton jersey. The lining contains pockets for the included sturdy foam 'cookies'. The bra comes with two kinds of detachable straps: regular 12mm wide straps and padded, 32mm (at their widest) wide comfort straps made out of the same matt satin the cups are made of and edged with shiny satin bias binding. The comfort straps are only partially adjustable.
First of all, I've fallen in love. With my breasts. They're perfect -- as long as they're in an Ewa Michalak bra Seriously, this CH Onyx I had custom-made in 60F is just the kind of stuff dreams are made off. The cups and wires fit me like nothing has ever fit me before and the shape the thing gives me is just UNBELIEVABLE. Really, I thought I hit the jackpot with the HM Gold, but this CH Onyx is just MINDBLOWING.
The difference with the 65E I tried before is striking: the cups and wires are just ever so slightly roomier, but the fit is a thousand times better. Also, the cookies work wonders in evening out the asymmetry between my larger right and smaller left breast. There is the tiniest bit of gapping when I move my arms/shoulders forward, but it is nowhere near as bad as with the plunge version (PL Onyks), which confirms my 'theory' that this is simply a better shape for me.
The straps placement is fairly wide, although I don't experience the problem of them cutting into my arms the way the straps on other bras do. The comfort straps are, indeed, ridiculously comfortable and although they are only partially adjustable I find I don't have to tighten them much, which doesn't often happen. Again, I guess this confirms the shape and size of this bra is just right for me. The entire bra is ridiculously comfortable: it almost feels as if I'm cupping my breasts with my hands, so gentle, soft, and supportive! And the shaping is just jaw dropping: very lifted, round and up-front -- I never knew I had such 'assets'
Anyway, so far the good stuff. The not-so-good stuff is that the band on this thing is really tight. I mean REALLY REALLY tight. The band on the 65E I tried before clearly was too loose and also in other ways it was not as good a fit, but this otherwise perfect 60F I can barely close, especially if I also want to continue breathing. Luckily I had the foresight to include a bra band extender in my order, but seriously, what's up with the sizing of these things?!
I LOVE this bra. It's perfect, except for the band. I measured this 60F and its stretched band is indeed a full 10 cm shorter than the stretched band of the 65E I tried before. This explains why it is too tight for me: the difference is 5 cm too many! Now, the question remains whether I happened upon a particularly loose 65 band or is this 60 band particularly tight? For this bra it doesn't really matter -- besides, it fits PERFECTLY with the extender -- but it would be nice to know for potential future orders *sigh*
Edited To Add:
t_maia has informed me that the bandsize discrepancy is due to the 65E I tried being 'old stock' and the 60F (obviously) 'new stock'. 'New stock' items run more true to size and are therefore tighter in the bands. Pity that one cannot know whether the item one receives is old or new stock, but I suppose that is just part of the 'game'
In my case it would not have made much difference anyway as the cups of the 65E didn't fit as perfectly as the cups of the 60F. In the discussion that followed from my PL Onyks fitting help request (find it here: http://www.bratabase.com/troubleshoot/dhker/) it already became clear that true sister sizing doesn't work in Ewa Michalak bras (from scouring the internet I've since found that the same may be true for other brands/models too, such as the Panache Andorra). The cups of the 60F are, in fact, half a cup size LARGER than the cups of the 65E. Likewise, a 70DD would be half a cup size SMALLER than the 65E. Extrapolating from this logic, a 60E would be half a cup size SMALLER than and a 70E half a cup size LARGER than a 65E. In addition to this the cup shape changes too: smaller cups are relatively shallower and wider, whereas larger cups get deeper and narrower. Read more 799 more words
This is an absolutely amazing bra. It's about one cup size and one band size too big for me, unfortunately. However, because the band is really stable in the back (it doesn't ride up despite being loose) and the bra comes with removable pads, I decided to keep the bra. I have a 31" ribcage and definitely need the 65 band on this bra (I'd say this band runs about a size too big compared to the other Ewa Michalak bras that I've tried).
The comfort straps are really wonderful too. Unfortunately, they don't adjust all the way (the other straps do adjust ...all the way) so that might a problem for more petite women but this bra comes with two pairs of straps so it might just mean that you'd have to stick with the other pair.
I have to say I love the shape this bra gives too. Hands down my favorite in this respect too. It also seems to add about an inch to my bust due to the lift so that's something to be aware of when dressing.
As for comfort, I have zero complaints there. I feel like I could wear this bra all day every day. Read more 109 more words
Cups are very rounded and forward projecting. I like that it puts all of my breast well above the bottom edge of the underwire. Underwire doesn't poke or rub, and seems to be well-enclosed in the fabric to be comfortable. The cups fit well if you like this shape and don't cut in across my full on top breasts, but the band is very stretchy compares to other Ewa bras I've tried, and I would reccomend sizing down from your normal band size to start with.
The straps are convertible and it comes with several straps to use depending on occasion (straight, criss-cross, halter, etc.). I found ...that I can't use the padded straps at all, though they feel really soft and nice to the touch. I need to extend them to their maximum length, which then puts the end seam of padded area right on the apex of my shoulder to cut in, and the padded area is in front of my shoulder and not doing any of the work of padding because of placement. Not comfortable. The other set of simple band straps it comes with fit me ok, almost fully extended, but they rub at the front of my armpit just a little bit. (Bothered me a lot the first wear or two, but not really an issue once the fabric softened.)
The contrast materials - shiny and matte finishes - are really nice touches. Read more 132 more words
Pro： - It gives a fantastic lifted, up-front and rounded shape. Push breasts to the front and give nice cleavage - Comes with extra removable padding to correct my slightly small right breast. - Removable multiway straps and it has extra padding on the straps to reduce the strain on shoulder. - Low center-gore, about only 4.5cm which is good for me as it doesn't dig in. - 4 hook positions so this will extend the life of the bra.
Con: - Slightly small in cup size compared to my other Ewa Michalak bra （i.e. CH Toffik) - The seams shows thru if wearing a light material and tight clothing in the summer.
The shape is really great, the cups are comfortable, it's overall pretty nice. But on me the band was way too big. The straps that I measured are the padded comfort straps, it also comes with 3/4" straps and it is convertible. It comes with removable chicken cutlets (is that the right word for them?) in case of assymetry, which is a nice touch. The band is a little weird, it swoops up to the middle in the back, I'm sure there's a reason they designed it like this, but I don't know, haha. I want to love this bra, but I think I'll need to go and order a custom band size (smaller) So... Pros: Shape is great Comfortable Underwire isn't too wide Convertible
Cons: Larger band than I was told to expect (They say Ewa Michalak is supposed to run tight, I did not find that on this bra at all)
The CH Onyks is a multi-way black bra in my beloved CH cut. Mine is matte black, but it seems to have been made in a satiny fabric at times. The Onyks comes with three sets of straps and I've included pictures of all said straps. It is not actually a strapless bra, but I have been able to wear it as such as long as the clothing I'm wearing it under is tight enough to help hold the cups edges against my body.
The straps on the Onyks are very wideset. They dig into my armpits and drive me nuts. The straps are the reason why I do ...not wear this as a day to day bra. It's in my drawer for its use as a halter and as a pseudo strapless and that is the only time I wear it. The comfort straps are stretchy in the back and nicely padded in the front. I do like the comfort straps, but the loops for hooking them are too far into my armpits. The regular straps are very stretchy, and not very long. I'm able to use them as a crossback, but they have to be adjusted almost the whole length. I'm relatively high set, so if you're not, it's possible they will not be long enough for you to do that same. The halter strap is a good length for me and is pretty comfortable on my neck and traps. I'm prone to tension headaches and sensitive to pressure on those areas, but this strap doesn't bother me at all. I'm aware of it, but it seems to distribute pressure and weight evenly and I find my purse more bothersome than this halter.
The band is nice. It's snug and comfortable, but stretches out fairly quickly. I start out on the loosest hook then end up moving in one or two sets at some point during the day. After it goes unworn, the process starts over again. As long as it continues to snap back after wear I won't worry about it.
The cups give a great projected and rounded shape like other CHs. They're also more closed off and the ribbon edging can and will cut into FoT tissue. Most of my other CHs are 65E, but I would not want an E in the Onyks.
Overall I'm pleased with it. It certainly has its place in my bradrobe. If it weren't for the horrible armpit eating strap attachments I would wear it more frequently, but they can't all be perfect. Read more 311 more words
- runs large in the cups, lots of projection - removable inserts - 2 pairs of straps - multiway (racerback/neckholder) - 4x2 eyes closure - sturdy and (relatively) narrow underwires, not compatible with wide root shallow boobs
CH Onyx is a great everyday bra, it fits really well for my close set, firm, full on top, deep projected, narrow rooted boobs, although not perfectly so.
The band is really stretchy for a 26 band, tbh it's more like a 28 band so I will be taking it in - it rides up on the tightest hook and it's new! Though usually I find this model with true to size bands (I used to have this in 55H and the band was true to size) so I think this error is just in my bra, not the bra model as a whole.
Cups are a little too ...wide but at this size it's probably going to be like that with the current bras in the market.
The straps dig into my armpit since they are set a bit too far apart but this is doable, it's not a major major problem although it is a bit annoying.
The comfort straps are amazing, since my shoulders are bony the extra padding really helps however since it is only partly adjustable, the straps are too long for me so I will be taking these in too.
It's made out of an incredibly soft material and gives a really nice projected shape which matched my projected natural boobs Best bra I've ever owned. Read more 115 more words
This bra runs very wide in the band and has very large cups.
My other two 70G Ewa Michalaks (CHP Cappuccino and HM Gold) are much snugger and the cups are too small. In the CH Onyx, the cups are definitely big enough – almost too big, even, but only almost.
The band is a problem. In addition to being wide, it is also very stretchy. I was able to fasten it to the innermost hooks straight away, and I will probably need to make it narrower in the near future. If I had know this, I would have ordered a 65GG.
The straps have pros and cons. The comfort ...straps are, as they promise, comfortable! However, due to the comfort pads, they aren't adjustable all the way, and may I say they are ridiculously long. I wear them as short as possible, and still they are way too long, glide off my shoulders and don't give the little but essential support they are supposed to. Will need to shorten them.
The normal straps are adjustable all the way, but they, on the other hand, are very short, and it is impossible to wear the bra straps as an X. To do so, I will need to buy another pair of straps, meh...
The appearance of the bra is very nice – plain and stylish with a tiny detail that just finishes it off (the buttons on the front).
CH Onyx gives my breasts a slightly "out there" shape, at the same time pointy and round – not bad. Still, I would maybe prefer an even rounder and closer-to-my-chest shape with this cup size, now I don't feel it's quite as supportive as it could be. Although that probably has to do with the too wide a band and the too long straps.
All in all, this bra needs it fair amount of tweaking to fit me perfectly, but after that I believe I will be very satisfied.
Edit (17 March 2013): I've now narrowed the band and shortened the straps. It's better, but still not perfect. The straps still don't cut in but are very comfortable, which is a BIG plus. This of course has to do with the band being firmer, but nevertheless I don't feel it's firm enough. The band rides a bit up the back and respectively glides down at the front, although definitely not as much as you'd expect with a band that is this much too big (e.g. compared to the CHP Cappuccino in 70GG, with which I had to give up).
As also the cups are now bordering on too small (no quad-boob yet, but almost – nothing to blame EM for, probably just the last bit of breast tissue remigration), I decided to order this bra in a 65H and leave this one as an at-home-bra – it's still far from perfect, but thanks to its comfort its still a keeper. Let's hope the 65H turns out to be the true catch Read more 389 more words