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Bras » Claudette » Dessous Mesh Underwire Bra (CD2000) » 28E 28:6

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Fits ribcage69.3
B. perimeter20.8
Stretched Band70.8
Band Length54.7
Cup width11.7
Cup depth19.7
Wire length20.7
Cup height13.2
Cup separation2.2
Gore height5.3
Wing height7.4
Strap width1.3
Hooks2

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    Didn't fit

    Disclaimer:mostly huge rant. Would not recommend this bra to anyone unless you love to have your heart broken and feel full of regret and disappointment.


    What can I say? I did it again. This model is a mess.
    Extensive/comparative review of my (2-3) Dessous bras coming up tonight as long as weather stays nice enough for me to get some decent/accurate photos.


    My 30E was too FoT, 30DD is a 34C and wrinkles at the gore, and this one perfectly encloses my inner and outer tissue, and is a true 28 band, but makes me quad like nothing I've ever tried. I am on my period, but I tried a ... bunch of other bras on and nothing fits me this way. The quad is reeeeally bad. I unscooped a little for the photos, and it was still bad. I mean, almost entire boob out of bra, bad. Wtf? Sister size up a band(erm 6") and I don't have this problem.


    On a side note, there is bottom wrinkling in the photos, which I suspect is just from extending my arms to take pictures or not adjusting.
    It wasn't wrinkling at all before.

    I just wish this had worked. My 30DD cups were fine, and the original owner said this one had a TTS band, so I thought, "score! Finally found one that will work!"

    Ugh.
    And the sandy beige is the perfect nude color for me.
    Claudette, why you no work???!?

    Well, but I said this was the last colorway I'd try. There is a new one that is a similar beige with a pink I believe that I really liked, but no way in a million years am I ever dropping $60 on one of these bras.
    If I find it for $5, maybe. At this rate that is around all I am willing to ever drop for one of these again. Simply because it's always a mystery and I may or may not get one worth more than that.

    Firstly, the elastic on this one is a lot better than my "30DD", which is great, but then I have other fit issues.
    But then the elastic on the mauve 30DD is so cheap, it actually reminds me of the broken elastic on a pair of underwear I purchased when I was about 12(about half my life ago) at the $1 store. No exaggeration, it is literally that cheap.
    My mom has a tendency to hang on to clothes that I put in donate and throw away bags, I found that pair of undies, and the elastic was all stretched out, had no stretch left, falling apart. That was my immediate thought when I even just picked the 30DD out of the bag. I knew just holding it that something was wrong with the band.

    No bra new from a manufacturer should ever feel that way. Especially something that is so expensive at original retail price.
    If I had to guess how much these bras were brand new, I would place the mauve at around $5-10. Which I believe it dropped down to on sale, thankfully.
    I would place the 28E and 30E at around $20-35.

    Also just the general inconsistencies..would not ever recommend anyone paying the highest retail price for this, or anything over $15-20, unless you don't care about band stretchiness or possible cup inconsistencies as well. I feel like the Dessous is like Mystery Gum, and I hate that just as much.
    It always looks good, but ends up awful.
    Dessous is Mystery Gum.

    It's going to take a lot for me to stay away from a 28F in this colorway because the sandy beige perfectly matches my skintone, and I love the navy; I love the look of the Dessous, as always. But I hate imagining ever spending another dime on one of these bras.
    If I do find this in 28F, around $10, I might just to see just how inconsistent they are (for science, really), but I hate even imagining it. This model has been full of disappointment. I would probably end up with a 32 band that is too FoT in 28F. But that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't even make sense why a sister size doesn't have the same cup depth or shape or why, for instance, someone owning the same new colorway may not have the same band stretch as someone else, as I've now experienced with this one being TTS (a good thing) and the mauve being crazy stretchy while I've seen others TTS.
    Ugh this bra.
    It's like a good looking guy, full of promise but can't follow through on anything. Don't break your heart. Don't break your wallet. Don't break your boobs. Don't buy a Dessous.

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      My sincere condolances. You are not alone in this - I feel the same. None fit me so far. What's even worse, I still keep looking...

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      erispe The Dessous struggle. I will probably keep looking too. >_<
      Or at least to swap this out for 28F in the same color.
      It's just such a pretty bra. And would be so nice for summer.

      Makes me want to make my own bras even more. If I was better with my sewing machine, I would totally try for this design in a better fit.

    • arent there a coupla ewa michalaks that look a lot like that?

    • dbmamaz I'm not sure, but that would make me a happy lady if there are :)
      The Mgiełka kind of reminded me of a black Dessous. I meant to order one from them last year but missed out.

      I'm more a fan of the SM than 3D which would fit me, but comparatively, I'd assume the 3D would fit me a lot better than the Dessous has.

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      Ladies Queequeg0925 and erispe I too have had my heart broken by this serial offender. I did contact Claudette a couple of years ago when I ordered 2 older colourways in the same size as each other and they were RIDICULOUSLY different, and I sent them a big ranty email with photos and measurements explaining how frustrating it is to find bras that fit and that this difficulty shouldn't extend to WITHIN one style....and Bok emailed me back and offered to replace the item I'd bought (it was from Brand Alley, a site with no returns) which she did for free. So maybe drop them an email with your frustrations? I was very pleased with how responsive they were. I know it's still a pain in the arse but I've written off Dessous and probably Claudette as a brand now as their inconsistencies are not just within Dessous. Maybe I should take my own advice and email again to moan about the EPIC fail I had with Bardot/Odette...bah. Oh no, the rant is contagious, haha! :-O

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      Ladies Queequeg0925 and erispe I too have had my heart broken by this serial offender. I did contact Claudette a couple of years ago when I ordered 2 older colourways in the same size as each other and they were RIDICULOUSLY different, and I sent them a big ranty email with photos and measurements explaining how frustrating it is to find bras that fit and that this difficulty shouldn't extend to WITHIN one style....and Bok emailed me back and offered to replace the item I'd bought (it was from Brand Alley, a site with no returns) which she did for free. So maybe drop them an email with your frustrations? I was very pleased with how responsive they were. I know it's still a pain in the arse but I've written off Dessous and probably Claudette as a brand now as their inconsistencies are not just within Dessous. Maybe I should take my own advice and email again to moan about the EPIC fail I had with Bardot/Odette...bah. Oh no, the rant is contagious, haha! :-O

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      Oh, yes, they are SMs which start at 30F, and the beige ones are both mostly sold out, there's only the pink one (with strappies)

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      I also dislike the dessous inconsistency but I've only experienced them in different color ways and not huge differences like that. This does make a great nude for you. This color way was too light for me. I prefer to order Claudette only when I can make returns or if it's not a large investment. I felt like this color way ran a little smaller in the cup than most others.

    • emsiepie I'm sorry that you've had issues with these too :( Thanks for letting me know about emailing them.
      I think I will try that actually. I'm not sure if I'll have luck having sister sizes, but the fact remains that sister sizes should only be different in the band.
      :(

      I just took photos for my comparison review and oh my goodness, I am not crazy. I considered that I may be :p They really are so different. The 30DD measures 8"(maybe give a little) in depth, while 28E is about 7.5-7.7" in depth. I didn't take other measurements yet besides comparing the gores, but that was enough for me.

      The wires are also very different. At the center gores, the one goes down further before curving, which explains why I get wrinkling in one towards the center but not the other. They are simply different shapes. The beige is more rounded and is also more demi shaped, which doesn't work for me, while the mauve is a full cup as advertised. That and depth ecplains the quad.
      Didn't imagine I would get as much proof as I did. I suspected that my 30DD may not even fit, but tried it on again and then took measurements and yeah, it does.

      That is really sad, but good to know that their other models have just as many issues. I suspect they have a big quality control problem(actually noticed the brand tag on the mauve isn't even fully sewn on), which is pretty off-putting, again considering that anyone can get a Comexim or could have gotten an AP at much higher quality for about the same price that Claudette starts their bras at. It's just good that they have had a lot of these for $10-15, though atm they are back at $19.99.

      I am sorry to compare everything to Comexim, but I just feel they are a perfect company to be modeled after.

    • *explains

    • Are the two color ways from different seasons? I misunderstood originally. I thought you'd meant sister sizes in the same color

    • dbmamaz Aw darn :( I think I know which ones you are talking about. I was considering the beige/black. That was one amazing looking bra *_*

      @revisa Thank you :) I agree. The cups are very different from the other two Dessous bras I've owned.
      This one seems a little less coverage, by measurements and everything. Wires seem to be more narrow also.

      I'm not sure whether they're from the same season or not, but they are two different colors(beige/navy and mauve/black).
      On their website it says the beige is from Spring/Summer 2013, but nothing on the mauve. It has them both listed as "CD2000" but admittedly I have no idea what that means xD

    • I too am on a quest for a beigey Claudette Dessous. They're so pretty :( I was totally going to buy this on reddit, but you beat me to it. Looks like it wouldn't fit me either though!

      If you keep searching, I was surprised at how well the "orange soda" color worked as a nude for me. It was just too big.

    • This is how I feel about the American Tan Dessous. It is THE perfect shade of nude for me. But it's so small. :(

    • annabellynn Aw, I'm sorry =( I'm considering keeping an eye out for this color in 28F used so I can make sure I'm getting a true 28 or almost 28 band, but I'm not sure. The cup shape in general might just not work for me. Part of me thinks I should just stop trying haha.

      Do you think you'd be looking for about the same size then since this one wouldn't work for you either? I have really no life right now, so I can keep an eye out for you also =)

      Prettyncharmeuse Aw, yeah it really sucks =(
      Such pretty bras and perfect, rare colors, but the fit.. >_<
      I hope someday it will be easier to find sheer bras(well, and non-sheer even) in various skin-tones. And that someone else will make a Dessous-like bra. =(

    • Queequeg0925 i think if you do find a 28f, you may have the issue of the wires being too wide, or the cup coming up too high on the sides.

    • Queequeg0925 Sure! I'm eying a gorgeous 28E that is beige and hot pink. Knowing the brand it could be a totally different fit than this colorway .. cause of season and whatnot. At least that's what I'm telling myself, haha. The seller that had it left until June though. 28F would probably be best for me, realistically. Maybe if you find one and it doesn't work, I'll buy it from you!

    • Prettyncharmeuse Yeah, those are some of the things I was concerned about =( The cups on the 30DD are just a smidge wider and I believe that's what causes wrinkling in the center. If they're any wider it may also be painful.

      annabellynn Ok ! =) And yeah! I'll let you know if I find one and it doesn't work out. I honestly don't think I will have much luck with these at this rate, but I am not sure that I won't be able to resist trying if I find one haha Good luck if you end up with the beige and pink!

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      Queequeg0925 thanks for this review. I think your ranting is completely justified. Most brands that aren't, say, at Prima Donna's price level have inconsistencies in fit, but what you've experienced with Claudette Dessous boggles the mind. The elastic quality is especially disappointing to hear about.

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      Fellow Claudette sufferer here! After seeing the Claudette fishnet bra reviews from bloggers, and ordered the beige and pink colourway from Herroom. When I got it, which was quite quickly, the fit was not really good.. The size was ok, but the wires were very pokey because the rest of the cup didn't really do anything for the lift. Ok, it doesn't fit, that's not too bad. The problem is that after trying it on for maybe 20 minutes..the seams that connect the straps went half undone, on both sides, and the seam from the wire channel as well (?!)! Now there's no way to send it back, especially with all the stories regarding Herroom and returns.. Sigh.. Much quality..

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      JulieCS thats really awful!

      My first was an American Tan / black (30F.) It fit well and lasted really well. I'd get a little in cup quadding as the day went on and couldn't wear it at the wrong time of the month but that had to do with my tissue instead of the bra. The second I had was a Seafoam / khaki. It was too shallow but fit for the 30 minutes it would stay in my imf. Then from here I got a 28G sandstone/navy. The cups were really too big so I didn't wear it much and the coloring was too light to be a nude for me too. And the band was loose but it was used and I don't know how used. I also have two paramours in 30F. The black fits beautifully and the garnet unfortunately is just a little too shallow. The black is .2" deeper. I tried a cool cotton the first season and I found the cups smaller and band bigger. I've also tried Bardot (fits in sister size of 32E) but it's too wide to be comfortably and the Sophia Icon (30FF) where I'd read about the shallow cups but sizing up one cup was not enough... But I'm on the cusp of being too big for 30fs in the others. I do find the cups more triangle shaped than they look on some of the models but I don't have a lot of firm upper fullness even though I have tall roots. Idk. I feel like Claudette hasn't been a bad brand at all but i think buying them somewhere like here is the best because you can get the actual measurements for each bra. I wish the dessous bra measurements on here could be broken into colors or seasons but I understand why they aren't.
      I'm not trying to minimize the issues people are bringing up here, but I'd hate for someone to write them off completely if it's a brand that could work for them because a lot of their bras are pretty cool and they've change the face of non matrix bras. Since they started I've seen a number of other companies start making similar looking bras. And the company is still a baby and hopefully working out the kinks.

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      revisa one of the things I think will help (in terms of putting the Dessous on Bratabase) would be for people to add what color any it is that they have. The option is there, but a lot of people don't use it.

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      I just wanted to add on that I totally understand your sadness at this bra. It seems like Claudette has quality control problems on the whole - with different color ways having entirely different fits and potentially different materials used altogether. The only Dessous that has been somewhat successful for me is that red/olive one I have listed, and even that, it really isn't that great: I realize that I just find the mesh they use scratchy/uncomfortable. I do think they'd benefit from better quality elastic.
      I feel your heartbreak. The Dessous has one of my favorite designs in the world - simple, clean, sophisticated - but the construction has made it basically unwearable. :'(

    • learningaboutbras I know, I was so disappointed. Luckily the elastic in the sandstone/navy and black was better, but I've heard different from others.
      And yeah, I assume the original owner bought this on sale and I luckily bought my mauve on sale also. I'm just astonished with the original pricing. I got to thinking that perhaps they left their questionable ones for the sale bras, but I think that may be a bit of a risky thought and possibly overly optimistic. I haven't read through all the reviews, so I am really not sure. Just a thought that popped into my head.

      @JulieCS That is such a shame :( I was reading PetiteCollegiate's reviews on her Claudettes and saw that the one (don't remember about the others) had issues with the seams. And my mauve started pilling, which I find really odd. Most of my bras don't pill until I've had them past a year at least.

      @revisa I totally agree that buying their bras here is really the best decision. I didn't think to ask the person I bought my sandstone and navy from for the depth, since I assumed because the 30E was too big and the 30DD fit besides the band, that it'd fit.
      My mistake. Always always ask for the band, cup depth and width on these.
      I would also recommend always asking about where the seam lies and for cup height, as my sandstone and mauve are very different.
      I do also agree with you and Prettyncharmeuse that breaking these up into colors may be more helpful.
      Speaking of which I have to add the color for this!

      @kerniss It really is such a beautiful design. I'm sorry that you too have had problems with it :(
      I agree that it seems like they have some quality control issues. I'd really like to keep trying, but I think I'm going to wait for a few years before buying directly from them again and hopefully quality will be better.
      Also wanted to mention that the mesh on my 3 have been different as well! The black seemed the best quality, the mauve is very stiff and a little itchy, and the sandstone and navy is somewhere in between. I hope at the very least that they use the same materials for the same colorways, but I couldn't say myself.

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    Used to fit

    Near-perfect fit! I'm thinking a 32 band would be more ideal, but that's getting nitpicky - omg, the cups on an unlined bra ACTUALLY FIT ME!

    After muddling through the "diagnostic" bras (Marcie and Lucy) through Amazon for a few months with no luck back when I was figuring out my proper shape/size, that's a revelation - I thought they just didn't make unlined bras that looked good on my boobs. There's a slight bit of wrinkling, but I didn't even notice until I looked closely at the photo.

    The fit reminds me of what I love about Comexim - the rounded, gently lifted to center silhouette. This is the ... size I wear in Comexim, too, even though I'm a 30D in most brands.

    Edited, about a year later: Wellll, I've had a body transformation this year (bad injury & weight gain/muscle loss, then big weight loss/muscle gain in different places than before; that'll happen when you go from bed-ridden to daily swimming, I guess), and the cups are wrinkling on me now to where I don't think this looks good anymore. Breaks my heart, because I love this colorway and you can no longer buy these. Sigh.

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    *angels singing from above* "Hooooolly Graaaaaail Braaaaaa"

    Look how smooth the cups are?!?!

    Stretchiest of them all! Most forgiving fabrics of the 4 I bought together. Unfortunately, because this was the bra I wanted to wear on an every other day basis, it's already stretched out since August to needing the 2nd hook. Originally didn't stretch to 29 inches when brand new, probably closer to between 28 and 28.5. I prefer firmer powermesh, but hella comfortable.

    Underwire shape is perfect, straps are nice and stretchy and highly adjustable and comfortable.

    Gore is a taaaaad too wide, it's an 1/8th of an inch wider than the norm. But I guess I can't really feel it with the band being more relaxed, so doesn't matter? Cup depth is 1/4 inch deeper, but cup height is slightly shorter so I guess the overall depth works out for me?? Looks the best in pictures too.
    This is one of my regular go-to bras. AND, I made a pattern from it.... Foreshadowing?!?! https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />

    Twilight colorway

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    • Looks great on you. Glad you found such a good fit!

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    Didn't fit


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    Didn't fit

    In comparison with a SS14 model, the SS15 Dessous is more shallow and the straps are wider. The band is less firm as well. The quality is still good. The straps are wider in the SS15, which is kind of odd and unnecessary at a 28E. For the first wear, the straps creaked in the rings, but that seems to have stopped now.

    Periwinkle and Cream Soda colorway

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    • I'm thinking about buying this bra in 28D, so thanks for the review!

    • runs_with_scissors No problem and good luck!

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    Didn't fit

    Hmm there's some things that are different about this Dessous in comparison to the rest that I have! The underwires almost appear to be... Put in backwards?? They are very gradually slanted in the middle, and very hooked with a steep incline on the sides. While this different underwire fit gives more of an uplifted and rounded shape from the front view, it doesn't fit very comfortably under the arms, plus almost all my side view projection is gone! Very interesting.

    The other major difference is how more high coverage this feels and looks. I'll admit I purposly loosened the straps on this one after reviewing how much vertical ... strain some of the cups looked in pervious pictures, yet this bra still covers more of my breast. It did measure the highest of them all across the middle, and it's even taller at the sides where the straps connect. Overall, a more full coverage fit!

    Since this is a preowned bra, the band is pretty dang stretchy, and I can easily hook it on the last, tightest set immediately. I could always try to attach another layer of powermesh (but on how many bras have I said I could but then never did?).

    I will cautiously open the underwire channeling and investigate what's going on with the strange backwards underwires. Then add more fit info. For now, it's too uncomfortable.

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    Didn't fit

    Needed an extender to get on first time, still use one. Tightest by far of the 4 I got, plus least forgiving materials. Can't even stretch to 27 inches!!

    Cup depth was a bit deeper than the others at the apex. A quarter inch larger in both depth and height. Probably is what gives the cups a bit of wrinkling. (Looks more like extra fabric wrinkle than strain lines. But with an extender, straps are wide in back, so I tightened them. So maybe vertical lines are both wrinkles and strain lines?)

    Center gore has some flaws, being much wider than the others (1 and an 1/8th inch, wow!), and ... channelling very assymetrical with the left higher than the right and slanted.

    My least worn of the 4 because even with extender, the bra is a made a bit uncomfortable with the too-wide center gore, and cups slightly a touch too big.

    Would be good for a squishier 28-band-wearing ribcage, or a firmer 26-band-wearing ribcage.

    A note to add: I did buy this from a Liquidation shop on Amazon, so this may be one of the slightly flawed ones that no one bought yet/bought and returned. (Would explain the wonky gores on a few of them.)

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    New Classic Elsa Pink colorway

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    Didn't fit

    Third in line of the 4 I got from Amazon, in order of most to least tight. I was able to get it on without an extender and can strerch it a tiny bit away from myself, but I still need an extender for now to be comfortable breathing.

    Appears that left cup has a bit of lower cup wrinkling with horiztonal lines, so it might be a bit shallower at the bottom than the others.

    Otherwise, once again, underwire shape is great. Straps are stretchy and comfy, despite being a bit wide with an extender.

    Tiny bit of uneven underwire channeling at gore, but not too bad.

    Sun Kissed colorway

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    Didn't fit

    Seriously needed an extender as it was the second tightest when I bought all 4, it hurt. Wing powermesh is extremely firm with very little give. Good for long term wearout, but it means it's too tight for now.

    I added pictures of both without and with an extender, including the ugly painful marks it left after digging in for only one minute of wear. It didn't fit like a "second skin," it wanted to BE my skin!!

    But speaking of skin, you can see it's a very good "nude" color for me. If it's light pink color and the more yellow Sunkissed bra colors were mixed, it would be ... even more ideal. My bra for cream and white blouses right now.

    Some in-cup wrinkling, which I thought was from it being too tight, especially considering there's also major in-cup quadding when I didn't have an extender. In the front view, it looks like it's almost trying to smash down the lower half of my breasts. After adding an extender the quadding was reduced but the wrinkles got larger. Maybe still straining but vertically instead of horizontally? I had to tighten the straps a small bit more with the extender, as they sat further out on my angled shoulders. The strap elastics are nice and stretchy, which always makes it difficult for me to tell if I have then too tight. It could also be slightly more inner full in cup shape than I am, as the wrinkles are not there on the sides of the cups.

    Otherwise, the underwire shape is a perfect match for me, the gore doesn't dig (with an extender), and it's very pretty overall.

    There's a bit of a weird gathering at the center gore when the bra is relaxes, but ot stretches flat ao I don't think it effects fit.

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    Allure colorway

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    Very surprising bra! Deemed the most sexy bra by DH. Extremely comfortable. Doesn't show under clothes. Shocked that it doesn't, because initially, it seemed to not fit. This bra has elastic across the top of the cup so the top was both loose and quad boob at the same time. A little pulling on the elastic has relaxed it, resolving both issues. Mind you, it didn't show under clothes even before the elastic relaxed. Trim and straps are nude. Color "Twilight" is a beautiful, extremely sheer mauve.

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