I'll start by noting that I've purchased 5 of these bras over the years, in 3 different cup sizes. It was my first bra in a sub 32 band (which I hadn't known existed prior), and I absolutely fell in love with it at the time. It's not available in a 28 band, which is why I first started looking elsewhere.
It looks fantastic under clothes, at least in the smaller cup sizes. It is very comfortable and supportive. With care, it lasts for years.
The molded cups are fairly thin (much thinner than a Deco or Neve) but quite stiff. Therefore, ...it does not mold to your shape, you mold to it. Unless you overfill or your shape can't fit in the cups, its great for hiding asymmetry, jiggling, and time spent in coldrooms at work.
Its positives for me contain its main negative. It has a fairly high gore, which combined with the stiffness of the cups means it doesn't move with you the way a less stiff bra would. When the band begins to stretch out, it literally feels like you are wearing a (comfortable and less supportive) boob shelf. However, I like this bra so much that I altered the band when it reached that point.
I find myself reaching for this bra when I want an absolutely smooth line under clothes, or, oddly, when I'm doing ridiculously hard physical work. It's more comfortable than any sports bra I've ever owned and nearly as supportive.
The criticisms of this bra that I've seen tend to be that it is very plain (yes, that's why it's invisible under clothes) and that the cups give a pointy shape. I suspect that the pointy shape may be more of problem in the larger cup sizes. I would describe the 30DD and 30E as uplifted round, but I think my 30F was a little pointy. I loved it anyway.
Pros: Durable, comfortable, supportive and great under clothes. Cons: Probably not great for shallow or very firm breasts that don't conform to the cup shape. Might be too pointy for some. Not available in a 28 band.
This bra was a very comfortable, very functional everyday bra. The balcony style fit well under all but the widest square necklines (the top corner of the cup would show) or lowest plunges (center gore showed). The cups are a smooth molded style, giving great forward projection and pulling in breast tissue from under the arms while keeping a nice, rounded shape--it looked very natural for me. It's certainly not the most attractive bra (very basic, no-frills), but it was very, very comfortable and went well under everything from white to black (I've got very pale skin, so black bras sometimes show through black shirts if the material isn't thick or completely opaque, like a jersey material or a thinner dress shirt).
Please see my review under Fantasie 4510 32F [white folks] beige aka "nude". Just a question: when are manufacturers going to stop that silliness? We took the "flesh" crayon out of the box a long time ago. It's beige. Well, this particular one is black, but I mean the one where the 4510 review lives.
My absolute, absolute favorite bra of all time. Looks great under everything, keeps them up and in front enough for my waist to be defined when I'm wearing something that isn't clingy, but doesn't have the effect of "push up" being obvious. I'm obsessed, I've owned four or five and I wear those bad boys out; even after it's time to replace them, they tend to be better for me than a brand new bra of a poorer shape or quality!
Pros--very comfortable and secure, gives you a fantastic shape Cons-- very date-night under an outfit, but doesn't look all that fancy once your top comes off.
This bra fits pretty nicely on me, with two minor exceptions. 1)The underwire of the cups is a little wide for me, and sometimes seems to dig into me because of this. 2)My ribcage is much closer to a 28 than a 30 band size, but this particular bra only starts at a 30 band size. I already ended up fastening the bra on the shortest hook in order for it to fit me, but this isn't a big deal at the present moment.
Other than that, I liked the bra... Very nice lift. It held me up exactly where I should be and provided plenty of separation. I'm ...not bulging from the ups, it's a good shape under clothing, and is seamless under thin shirts. As to the appearance, it looks very functional--not sexy (at least in this size/color). It's very full coverage, so I don't think it would work with many low cut tops. Also, I may be imagining it, but I think I notice a bit of a minimizing effect. This would make the bra a good choice under my button downs. Overall, I'm very satisfied. Read more 80 more words
The perfect t-shirt bra! Like many here, I have relied on the Fantasie 4510 for years and it remains my all-time favorite workhorse of a bra. Pretty/cute it ain't, but my first "fitted" bra (34D 6 years ago) and still the only one that suits my shape. It disappears even under thin knits, stays comfy all day, washes & wears like iron without stretching out, provides a slightly-minimizing yet lifted, good-for-work coverage profile, has low cups in a balcony style so doesn't show under a bunch of necklines, relatively narrow wires but a high enough wing to pull & hold side tissue etc. etc. When I went to ...replace my old 34D after finding my ABTF size, I tried at least 8 other popular t-shirt bras and even tried different sizes. All of the Freya Decos, CK, Wacoal, a few Panache, Parisa Fe, Chantelle....every single one smushed me flat or squeezed me in/out and plus did some other horrid thing, like orange in a glass or quadding. The gore did not tack in a single one of them and it looked like half my torso was a uniform broad tall wide undefined bulge. Apparently (or so I was told by the lingerie salesperson) that is the 'American look', and yes you see it everywhere, don't you? For research purposes, I tried a number of sizes in the 4510, and my opinion is that the band is true to size with very little stretch but the cups run a tad off. Since the moulded shape is so firm, you can get away with going either way. The 32FF gapped a little in the center, the 30FF was tight in the band and skewed the wires a bit, the 32F has a bit of space at the bottom, the 34F had a little too much cup to the sides - but all were wearable under clothes and totally comfortable. Plus! In the 4510 I have two breasts that I can be proud of! Projected & close-set ladies, listen up! Try the 4510. It may be the beginning of a long and rewarding relationship! For reference: 32F/FF; narrow, close & high-set, even 2/5 shape, average root height, immediate projection. Read more 259 more words
It looks better in promo shots than on me at this size, but it's a great anytime bra. Received one well-loved from another member and purchased one new so I feel comfortable saying the band size is consistent, true to size and doesn't stretch out much with wear. I really need a 32 - but I am finding that to be the case of late. I prefer a tighter band, and am becoming more aware of irritation from miniscule movement of many of my 34's. Cup size seems pretty accurate. I could use a half-cup larger on one side, but moving to a GG would result in unacceptable gaping on ...the smaller side. Cups are a bit wide for me - another reason I don't think moving to a 32GG or H would help. Support is excellent, particularly for such a skinny band. Lift is subtle but good. Straps aren't quite as wide-set as many balcony styles, so they're less likely to show w/sleeveless tops and wouldn't slide off as readily on narrower-shouldered ladies. Gore is quite low, which is also very versatile. The sides/wings are also quite low, so suitable for me & my under tall friends. It is wear-all-day & sleep-in comfy. Looks are very plain. It shines brightest when covered up. Cups are firmly molded, which is a love or hate feature. I love it for smoothness under clothing & disguising size differences. Bottom line: great basic if it fits you. Read more 127 more words
This one runs at least one cup size large for me. It's very comfortable, nothing pokes or digs, and best of all it's smooth! The padding is very thin but stiff so it doesn't add size at all but there's no way anything will show through it. To give an idea...I can manage to comfortably breastfeed in Cleo Juna and Ewa Michalak HP but there's no way I can fold this down enough, I have to unhook the back which is a pain. But the other two have seams and there are times when I need a smooth bra...this is awesome for that.
I have ...it in nude, very plain but it does have a few bows on it. Shape is pretty rounded but not flattened / minimized at all. I am still getting used to my proper bra size but it seemed very tight in the band at first, loosened up a lot within 4-5 wears though and I'd say it's a true 30. I wish it came in a 28 band. Extremely comfortable, I can forget it's even on although that may be because the band is on the looser side. Shape and support don't seem to suffer because of this.
I have gotten some wrinkling in the bottom of the cups with wear...doesn't show at all under shirts and doesn't affect shape or support much. Would definately buy again...the best seamless option I've tried. If I get a chance I will try one cup size up though, I do get slight quadboob at times (my size fluctuates a lot at the moment).
This bra should be in the top ten list of the Hall Of Fame Of Bras. I love it. It's incredibly comfortable, the shape it gives is OMG fabulous and it's really supportive. Also, the colour is a pretty universal nude, unless you're vampire pale. Sure, it's plain, but I think the sexy factor in this bra comes from the shape it gives and the comfidence you get wearing a first class bra. As it's a balconette, the straps are wide apart - not a problem for me, but could be that to someone with narrow shoulders. The center is quite high in H cup, so no deep v-necks with this bra. Those are the only cons I can think about. Sheesh, I wish Fantasie would start making this in HH and J cups. Hey, it can't be that hard...?