Emelie Longline Navy (BAW17-AT0002-023-28H)

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  So pretty! I am glad you got the correct size. Thanks for the detailed review.

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  This looks like a waaaay better fit. Also, I think more bra companies are doing a disservice by putting their strap attachments all the way out to the side. I need the most lift in the center where I have the most tissue, so why not move those straps in? Lovely and what great customer service!

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  Nice review on an original bra. In my understanding, a longline is much has a deeper, much deeper band, quile like a basque. Some had hooks to unite with a girdle ;)

  Nevertheless, this model shows an audacious and daring mix of materials. Part classic, part modern. Good to have item.

  And yes, I mean, if you are happy with then treat yourself at work too. Statistics say that we only live about once.

  The kind of secrets that make a day. Looks like the upcoming winter could be terrible. Any positive emotion is a good catch to better face grey skies and frozen landscapes.

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  veggiechic thank you! It’s so much better! I’m wordy with my reviews a lot because I am mindful that I have the privilege to see and read and connect pictures with words, but some people don’t have the ability to see and do that, so I aim for my words to create the pictures for those who would not see them otherwise.

  cupandahalf yeah it’s so hard, especially if you’re petite like me. My shoulders have a little slope to them and I am far from broad shouldered. I have a 65J Ingrid with the straps moved in. It’s still too tall, but it’s so much better with the closer straps.

  femineaaeterna ”statistics say that we only live about once “ ha ha ha! So true! I might wear it to work sometime. I’ve worn pretty sexy and fancy bras under my uniform before, but this, being a longline, somehow feels different.

• femineaaeterna I see we are like-minded. I ALWAYS wear my nice bras and panties - even when I am working (I cook for a living). If it is comfortable enough, I wear it.

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  AGBras ,
  And sure there's that "keep straight" effect as that's how these good huggers work best for what you have. A self insurance even if no one will ever see what causes it, permanent reminder of the privilege of their support and shaping.
  I almost always wear a chemise or slip to protect them from outerwear fleece contamination.
  Bottom line, can hardly explain, it is just what it is.

• I think it’s more like the longline aspect and not so much the fancy aspect. I wear my Sekret to work and it’s a fairly sexy and fancy bra. Same thing with my PL Milady and matching bottoms. I’m not opposed to wearing fancy or sexy bras and underwear under my work uniform. This one though, I have not shifted it to day to day use mentally yet. I recognize that it is not really that much fancier than my other bras but mentally I am reserving it for non work days. Perhaps til I feel more comfortable/used to wearing a longline under my regular clothes. I’m sure my mentality will shift as I wear it more.

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  This looks like a great fit on you, and it gives you a nice shape. ..very pretty bra. I personally don't like to wear longlines all day at work because the band flips up and I can't just reach my hand under my shirt whenever I want to unflip it. Maybe it's just my specific anatomy that causes them to do that, but it drives me crazy.

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  Wilderness1 I think I have the same problem with my body shape with longlines flipping (which is why I’m interested in the sister bra Lily which is shorter), however, my job is primarily standing, and I find the flipping is more often when I’m sitting so it should be ok at work. So it *should* be ok at work. I might try it for a Sunday pharmacy shift which I’m with the pharmacist only. I’m not sure if the stretching to get things on tall shelves or crouching to the narcotic safes on the floor will be problematic in a longline or not. For now, I’m just going to wear on my days off and get familiar with the longline aspect for all day wear.

• Calluna ,
  Same here. IMHO, longlines are divided in two families: -The Real Deal and everything else.

  The real deal will not roll. Our milleage can vary anything else.

  Remember those magnificent longline Doreens ? With the industrial strength more than 2 inch wide elastic band at the bottom ? Those won't roll. As wouldn't anything with strong bones. Carnival Creations inclusive.

  Historically longlines and girdles were worn in complemenary collaboration. Overlapping at the waist.

  I prefer "girdle over bra" as it allows the bra to anchor whie the girdle can slightly slip up / down with daily movements.

  Some girdles had eyes and longline bras hooks. Or vice-versa, anything to anchor the bra to the girdle was attempted. And it works very well indeed.

  An all-in-one girdle solves the problem by design. However finding one that fits well at the bust and hips might be an ordeal.

  A set of longline bra styles/colors plus a fleet of girdles was a logical method to feel well. How do I know ?

  Full drawers of such goodies. With decaying or terminally ill elastic portions. They are hard to get nowadays and the original ones lasted that much.

  However good, even firm all-in-one's are stil available. An unique one of a kind experience one should consider. Nothing moves, nothing slides or rolls.

  Yes, I wear those as well. With regrets for the relatively limited variety of bra portions they offer today.

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Emelie Longline Navy (BAW17-AT0002-023-28H)

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  That is seriously cute. I love the floral on the band. I'm worried about trying it because of how long those wires are. 12 inches on this size? Oof. I need like 9 or 10 max. I look forward to your second review though and if the next size down fits you I might reconsider trying them some day. their customer service sounds amazing.

• Does that band roll up on you? It's an interesting aesthetic, it just doesn't look practical for sitting.

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  It's really lovely. It just looks a little big so hopefully the FF will work.

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  gratiat they have amazing customer service! Alice and Fleurette have emailed back and forth and worked with me on the 7-8 hour time zone difference (was 7 hours the first time because it was after our time change but before theirs). My last FaceTime call was 1:30pm my time in western Canada, and 9:30pm there. So it wasn’t til 11pm that Fleurette and I finished chatting. I’m in agreement with you on the wires but somehow, despite the measurements, I didn’t notice it as a huge problem while I was trying it on.

  Sovavosi I only wore it long enough for the initial try, the FaceTime fitting, and once again to assess the fit for my profile. I didn’t wear it any longer than necessary to ensure it was as pristine going back as I received it. I don’t have a sit down job so I’m not sure if it’s going to be a problem. Maybe if I wore it out to a dinner? I don’t know. I’m short waisted though, so it might be once I wear it long term. The Lily is shorter and it’s possibly that it’s a better style for me. We have to see what the 30FF fit is like first.

• Oops, didn’t finish my comments before hitting add.

  Sonya I am hoping that you are right. I think that it’s partly the taller cups and the softer and less full upper tissue that is why it’s a little bit bigger on me. But then again, cup depth was closer to 10.5” if I remember correctly, which is bigger than I need. It’s probably big enough for you. You could probably do a 28GG or 28H. thelingerieprincess has both Emelie and Lily and is about your size too, so she can possibly give you feedback.

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  Gorgeous bra! I love the floral band and details on the bottoms. Too bad this one didn't fit, but hopefully the next size will be perfect!

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  Wilderness1 yes!!! It’s really beautiful! I was so excited to have my friend get it on her trip and bring it back for me. I’m really hoping that the 30FF is going to work out.

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  Thanks for the info.

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  Wow, I am so excited for you that you get to try this brand because their styles are really cute! But I admit I am shocked that given they had whatever measurements they asked for, had done a Facetime fitting, etc. they did not predict just HOW excessively big this would be on you. Did they request vertical measurements to get a sense of your proportions? From stock photos as well as the Big Cup/Little Cup review it seems clear this is designed to be a distinctly low cut style whereas the 30G comes up sky high on you... it looks more than 1 cup too big IMO. It's a construction that reminds me a bit of the French brand Aubade--basically it uses a shallow, blunt-profile shape to smmmmmoooosh the breasts forcefully in and upward into a mounded cakes on a plate shape. But the cup height still has to make sense for this to work, and this cup is just so tall on you! And a 12 inch wire and 4.5" wing is... kind of a lot of bra?! That is more what I'm used to seeing on a traditional full cup bra for people in a whole different size range. I don't mean to undermine your confidence in the brand, they sound like lovely people but maybe their remote fitting approach needs more data points?

• wendybien the initial FaceTime fitting was basically what size I was wearing and how it fits. They often deal with people who have been in the wrong size bra so when speaking with me, we confirmed that I was pretty knowledgeable about bras and knew what a good fit should be. We also determined that as I do wear some 30FFs, per the general rule of sizing up a cup put me in 30G. This is also what I got when I did the calculator on the website. There wasn’t enough time in the initial fitting for me to try on my existing bras and gage fit, shape, etc. There was always the thought that I might need something smaller, based on my shape, but either way, it was a 50/50 chance of fitting or not fitting. I think that given the time we had, we got a good guideline to start. Would a little bit more information about my particular characteristics have helped some? Yes, possibly. I did mention some shape stuff though, but not specifically vertical height or anything. BCLC did say that she ordered her normal UK size and it was a bit shallow, and she should have sized up per the guidelines. That said, she’s also quite full on top, and I am not. I can’t speak for the models, but I does appear to be lower. I can’t tell if the height of the cups is a size thing or a style thing. For the time being, I cannot judge anything as a shape mismatch until I try the 30FF. I did try it on for the follow up fitting and I tried on other bras and gave sizing on them, so I do think that the 30FF will fit better. It’s possible that it will still be a taller cup, but I think it will take care of the extra room. My assumption on the taller wing height is that it is a longline. I’m not sure about the wire length. I assumed it was also partly the longline construction and partly the size. We’ll see what the 30FF stats measure up to. If you have any suggestions on what could be asked for in the initial FaceTime fittings, I’d be happy to pass on the suggestions. I think it’s always going to be educated guessing, but more information is always beneficial, and as a fairly young company, there also always room to progress and evolve. As always, appreciate your feedback.

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  Just to provide context to wendybien’s statement, the wire they are using for this bra is similar in size (length + width) to Cleo T-shirt bras in size 36G. I hope the smaller size has better graded wires for you!

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  Calluna ok I guess it makes more sense if their usual Facetime fitting "script" (so to speak) is geared to figuring out a size from scratch because they assume a typical customer profile of someone who doesn't really know much about fitting and is usually wearing a wildly off-base size in the first place. My advice to them, I guess, would be that they need to acknowledge this bra in particular has a construction that deviates significantly from the typical proportions of existing full bust bras (at least in your size range). So I'd tell them, no matter how knowledgeable your customer, if they do not routinely wear and buy styles that you know for a fact have comparable proportions to your own bras, then don't rely on the size they wear in their other bras since your design is quite an outlier. They should eyeball the customer's shape and ask for a lot more measurements if they seem to deviate from (whatever the easiest-to-fit boob shape/body proportions are for their brand).

  My immediate thoughts in terms of advice to you would be to just measure all and any half cup or quasi half cup (very open at top edge) bras you currently have that fit you decently, and compare with this one. You could even do a Bratabase comparison. And then send them those figures and get them to just check their patterns and see if the Emelie is close enough to the measurements you gave in ANY size. If not you may need customizations or you might need to try one of their other designs once they get it back in stock.

  Oh and sorry meant to start with this, on the topic of the wires and wings etc., but I have no brain today: what cupandahalf said! Their design has very very unusual proportions, at least in your size range. In some ways that's a bummer for people trying to find a fit based on what they can wear in other full bust bras but I guess it means they're probably the one indie brand telling the truth when they claim they designed this because they couldn't find anything comparable on the full bust market! It is definitely an outlier in how tall and shallow it is. Wide and shallow is a shape we see here and there but rarely so tall. So, presumably it's a strength in terms of appealing to customers who have never managed to get the cakes on a plate look but will be able to get it with this bra. However, it does also mean that size troubleshooting can sometimes require more work.

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  * and post scriptum because you know I am NEVER done yapping: I don't think you should be concerned about a 2 part cup construction. If they know what they are doing, which I assume they do, it is absolutely possible to make a 2 part cup in your size range very supportive and aesthetically appealing. A lot of the old school French brands that have been doing lace or embroidered tulle demi cup bras since the 1960s use a single seam for their biggest cup sizes, it's really not a problem if the materials and pattern are good!

• wendybien thank you for your ever valuable feedback. I appreciate the time you have taken to help me evaluate the fit of the bra. I’m actually wondering if I should maybe message back about the measurements for the 30FF and see how they compare while I am waiting for them to receive my 30G.

  I do know that per the website and in speaking with both owners 1) the wires and everything are a bespoke design and 2) they are made in Europe. This does mean that perhaps there is a French influence in the design. I’m not sure exactly what the proportions are for the Lily in comparison with the Emelie, only that it’s a firmer band and it does affect the fit a little bit. As a petite person, maybe I need a Lily instead.

  I’m worried about the 2 part cup vs the 3 part cup in terms of immediate projection. It’s stated that part of the reason for sizing up is because the cups can be a bit shallow. And I feel like a 3 part cup is more likely to give me the immediate depth that I need. I feel like I have decent projection at the wire in this one, but size is possibly part of it. Going to 2 parts, I might have it slip down/out from my IMF, though hopefully the longline will help reduce that.

  The 6” cup height doesn’t really seem to be that far out of line in comparison with other bras to be honest. The 65FF CHP Xoxo was about the same, but the cup depth was a full inch smaller. Freya Pop Art was also about the same, and again, smaller overall volume. The CHP immediate depth was fine though the bra bordered on small, yet the Pop Art seemed a little bit too shallow despite being 3 parts, and the cups seemed to be a bit taller but should not have been. Both were padded/molded.

  I’m going to pass on the feedback as I can, as you have offered some valuable and positive input. And as mentioned, I’m going to see if I can get measurements for the wires, cup depth and cup height of the 30FF to see if I can judge in advance if I am likely to fit it better. I mean, I feel like it looks bigger on me than it really was. My initial message back was that I thought it was 1-2 cups too big, but 2 cups seemed out of line with the size structure. Fleurette did see the amount of gapping via video in the follow up fitting and did not seem to think that I would need a 30F. And in judging the fit of my other bras, her mind did not change. I think that if the 30FF is 10” depth or less, I will be ok. I’m honestly ok if it’s a little bit tall and the lace rests a little bit over my boobs as I have a few bras like that already. I’m kind of used to it. I know that Lily fits a little bit different, but it’s a very similar design. It’s very possible that I might just do better with that. I wish I was closer to them so I could try in person and get fitted in person, but I’m still very happy with the customer service and the fact that they even offer some kind of visual or video fitting. Maybe it is not perfect, maybe it’s got room to improve, but I am glad that it exists. I’m going to send my email soon so hopefully I’ll have some answers soon. Thanks again!

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  Oh you're welcome! I hope I don't seem like I'm being mean or harsh about a small indie brand and I do think it's awesome they try to offer fitting. I just was really puzzled about how this apparently more personalized process didn't help more, but after you explained it definitely made sense. They've had MASSES more exposure in mainstream media and fashion outlets than your typical indie full bust company so the bulk of their clientele is probably people who are quite clueless about bra sizing, and that's something I hadn't really thought about.
  Honestly my own experience with unpadded, no-foam seamed 2 part cups is that if they are designed well, with the right curve to the seam and materials that allow good projection, they can have plenty of depth... so I'm crossing fingers that will not be an issue.

  Re cup height I am basing my observation on 2 things: height vs. width and wire length, and overall cup shape. For the height vs. other dimensions it's just unusual to have a shallowish bra that is so tall, yet not particularly wide. Many brands run shallow but they'll usually be both broader and taller than average for a given depth. For construction, yes it is true that there are lots of other bras in this size range with a similar total cup height but that height usually also includes a full upper cup element (even if it is a smallish piece of fabric) that is either molded to curve inward, or attached with a horizontal or diagonal seam orienting it so it curves back in and follows the curve of the upper boob for quite a way. So it may be a 6" tall cup but the apex will often only be 4" from the wire. This construction they have is effectively a half cup and while they may try to curve the vertical seams to bring the cup edge inward, it's still gonna be a super open cup edge. So basically to get a workable fit you need a size where your natural breast apex is pretty high up in the cup, otherwise the cup just stands too far away from the body. Not sure if that makes sense...!

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  I appreciate the review of a little known indie brand, Calluna !

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  Thanks for your explanations wendybien. Stay tuned for more updates learningaboutbras for when I get the exchange.

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  My 30FF review is finally up for those who were curious about the exchange.

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• Good information to know once I am ready for a Lily. First I have to exchange my Emelie for a smaller size.

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