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Fits ribcage0.0
B. perimeter0.0
Stretched Band104.1
Band Length87.6
Stretch ratio1.2
Cup width19.4
Cup depth38.1
Depth ratio2.0
Wire length43.2
Cup height0.0
Cup separation2.2
Gore height11.4
Wing height12.7
Strap width1.9
Hooks3
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Index38:12
EU85HH
US38HH
FR100HH
AUS16HH
UK38HH

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Didn't fit

As I learn more about breast shape, and my own in particular, I've come to understand why some things I thought worked in the past "worked," and what actually works better.

About me: Full on bottom, relatively firm, very projected, very narrow root. I used to think I needed very wide wires, since "standard" width wires would poke me so much, and at least the wide ones would go behind my arm and not cause pain. (And finding narrow cups with enough immediate projection to avoid "orange in a glass" syndrome is its own special hell, as you all know.) I'm saying this now as a sort of disclaimer on any possible review history I may have on this site. Don't trust past me!

Moving on.

I bought the Panache Andorra and Envy, both in 38HH, black, the same day.

Notes:

The wires on the envy are almost exactly 5 mm narrower than the same size in the Andorra. Also, at the gore, where the Andorra's wire channels are basically stitched together, making the gore as narrow as absolutely possible, there's a roughly 6mm gap between the wire channels on the Envy, making the gore as a whole a bit wider. (This doesn't account for the difference in wire-width, either, I double-checked.) Envy also offers slightly more immediate projection; I get some wrinkling in the bottom of the cups of the Andorra. The Envy uses the same stretch-lace concept that Panache started with the Andorra and then spun off into the Jasmine and now the Envy (I don't have a Jasmine, so I can't compare there), but the fabrics used for the Envy feel slightly firmer and give just slightly less. (On me, this results in the gore on the Envy not tacking by just a smidgen, even though the bra fits inarguably better.) The Andorra's side-slings are a separate piece of fabric sewn into the cups, while Envy's side-support comes from the hounds-tooth fabric used in the bottom panels being extended up the side. (So the stretch-lace is only the inner 2/3 of the top-half of the cup) This DOES give less push to center, so if you have any east-west tendencies and don't like that, Envy probably won't offer enough "correction" back to center for you.

So if you're looking for a narrower, more projected cup than the Andorra, and don't mind a slightly wider gore, or less side-support, Envy might work really well for you. It has a very firm band, with the same X going across the bottom of the gore to give stability.

For what it's worth, I really didn't enjoy having to take it off to take the measurements to put it in the database. Envy is really comfortable, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more colorways soon!



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    Did you see its in purple now?

  • I did not, thank you!!!

  • But now that I see the black runs smaller than the beige, I'm wondering how the purple will fit. I think in retrospect my black might be small. I'm probably going to buy one in beige and see if it fits better, and wondering if I need to go up a cup - mine is a 32J


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Fit information

On Feb 2013

Strap separation:
Not a problem
Cup's width:
There is empty fabric on the sides (Cup too wide)

This bra didn't fit her, but these did