Matilda is in my opinion Elomis greatest hit. It's their besteller and they make in a bazillion colours. I got the plain black because it was the only one available from a local online shop and I needed it quickly. I had a few Matildas in my old size 32JJ and they were a good fit although a bit wide and the only plunge that worked for me in that size range. I was surprised that the 32GG also works in my current size! It's actually a good width for my fairly wide root and has a good cup height. The gore is low enough to not pinch ...my close set boobs. The wires are fairly hard and it needs to be worn in. At first the gore would press into my sternum but it gets better with wear. The fabric is mesh, it's quite thin and feels a bit cheap. The cute embroiderie does elevate it from looking boring and cheap though. I would recommend this bras as it's very widely available, does fit a good range of sizes, is supportive, sturdy and longlasting. It's most likely to work for someone who likes a lower gore but still good support, wider wires, tall cups and overall a sturdy supportive every day bra. If you need more space on top and softer wires, go for the Charley plunge with stretch lace. Read more 123 more words
Maybe if you try the bra with an extender it’ll help with the gore pain. Since it looks like the band is pretty tight.
Ok I gonna try that. I found the band quite stretchy and it's on the tightness level I am used to. So I did not think it's too small.
Also, you know what helps me. You can manually bend the wires to curve to your rib cage. It’s like “wearing the bra in” to make it more comfortable. I think HerRoom had a video tutorial on how to do it. Watch the first 30 seconds: https://www.herroom.com/how-to-bend-underwires-for-better-fit-video
This bra is comfortable for me. I found the band and straps to be comfortable. The lower gore is better for my close set breasts. The wires feel like the right width for me and the cup provides the right amount of coverage. My only issues with this bra are a slight bit of quading at the top and some wrinkling along the wires. I'm not sure if it maybe isn't projected enough, causing the creasing at the bottom, or perhaps I need a size larger. I think the quading would be solved, if the cup were slightly more open on top or had a stretch lace on top.
Fits amazing, especially with the J-hook! The gore fully tacks, and everything is filled out but not spilling over. I feel comfortable and supported. My only concern is that without the J-hook, I don't fill the cups as much at the top, not as well as I do with the Elomi Brianna.
Update: It fits much better, even without the J-hook, if I tighten the straps and use the tightest band hook. So, I'm ordering a new one in a smaller size (one size down in the band).
Yes, you can see the difference with the J-hook. I wonder why....
Fits so good! The gore fully tacks and everything feels secure. This one and the Elomi Matilda in 40K are my best fits so far.
In case they help, here are my notes and measurements from A Bra That Fits: I'm a size 40K (UK) / 40O (US), full on top (FOT), center-full, splayed, and I have tall & wide roots.
Interesting. I decided to compare Elomi Charley to a much lesser known "UK brand" (well, it's sold in the UK)called @Gemm, and the funny thing is: the Gemm bra's actually a better quality (see pics) The Lingerie Addict told me not to believe everything I read on the internet. For sure! there are lots of shills. Upon inspection, my impression of Elomi is "planned obsolescence," I would not pay $62 usd for this bra (I paid $18 at a website in the U.S. with deep discounts, they ship to Canada as well), you can get better for your money.
Interesting! I just throught the same when I compared my Elomi Matilda to the Luvlette bra I wear now heavily. While I still think Matilda is a good bra it's way too expensive for what it is! The band is flimsy and stretchy, the whole bra is made of the thinnest cheap feeling mesh! My 32GG Matilda band also measured 34 inch stretched when I got it. I always wanted 30 bands in it because that band was so stretchy. I have to say though that I wore my 32JJs a lot and no wire popped and they look decent still but I had a rather big bra rotation.
alisa Interesting! I have a 32GG UK Elomi Matilda to try on at my home away from home (aka, my mother's house); I'll have to report back to you!
I don't think it's gonna stand up to some of my favorite brands though.
Ooo, this is a bra frame I probably would have settled for if I hadn't already seen the difference Ewa Michalak bras make with the size of their wires. These wires are too wide and tall for me. The straps also don't adjust all the way, which feels weird. High roots beware. This colorway is very cute. The cups aren't quite deep enough for me. I'm still getting the tissue fold over issue on the outer side. I really don't like how all these "side support" style bras just shove tissue to the sides. Seems like the intent is for the opposite to happen. I know it's a cup depth issue.
This bra is so close to fitting, and something I would have settled for easily before I tried polish bra maker Ewa Michalak. The cups are close to the correct volume, but the distribution doesn't fit my shape. The band and the straps are comfortable. The gore almost tacks. The wires are too wide and too tall, so the side wrinkles and my tissue is folding over on the edge because the cup is not deep enough for the amount of projection I have. This would be a decent safety bra if I hadn't found Ewa Michalak bras. The fabric also comes up too high under my arms because the wires are so tall. I can see the fabric chaffing my tail of spence region. Good to know this one exists as a backup if I get in a bind. If you have decent projection, but not polish manufacturer levels of projection, this bra frame may be the one for you!
Has J-hooks. That's pretty cool for the narrow shoulder havers. High roots and narrow shoulders, get a buddy to help you adjust the straps because otherwise, it's gonna be a lot of taking it off and putting it back on. The wires are too wide and tall for me. There's a decent amount of projection at the bottom of the cup, but it's hard to tell if it's enough, because this cup doesn't have enough volume for me, anyway. It's kind of a shame that the longline version doesn't come in the higher band sizes that the plunge version comes in. It's kinda confusing. Usually I love the fabric on Elomi bras, but this one is a bit on the scratchy side. Sensory issues beware.
This bra is a life saver! I’ve been missing *real* bras since having my last child. I’ve been wearing Panache Sophie and Naomi bras and they’re great, but they’re now waaaay too big (I’ve lost weight and bust volume) and have 0 support.
This Molly bra has given me back so much happiness and confidence! I can only review as someone who uses wearable pumps (my baby stopped actually nursing around 5 months old), but this bra works great for wearable pumps! It has the usual Elomi comfort and quality. Reminds me of the Morgan bra, only with a little bit of spacer foam to form the nursing part.
I’ve read that the pink one runs smaller in size than the black. Now that I also have the black, I will say that IME, they fit exactly the same in both colors.
This bra is a life saver! I’ve been missing *real* bras since having my last child. I’ve been wearing Panache Sophie and Naomi bras and they’re great, but they’re now waaaay too big (I’ve lost weight and bust volume) and have 0 support.
This Molly bra has given me back so much happiness and confidence! I can only review as someone who uses wearable pumps, as my baby stopped actually nursing around 5 months old, but this bra works great for wearable pumps! It has the usual Elomi comfort and quality. Reminds me of the Morgan bra, only with a little bit of spacer foam to form the ...nursing part.
I’ve read that the pink one runs smaller in size than the black. My current size is somewhere between 32GG/32H, so I would say that the pink does run on the small side. The 32H almost fit, but was slightly too small on my larger side. The 32HH has a little space in the top because 1) the cups are a little tall and 2) all of my breast tissue volume seems to be on the bottom now. I’m definitely planning on getting another one in black! Read more 89 more words
Thank you for posting this. I wasn’t really sure what exactly was causing cup wrinkling on my other bras, tried sizing down then back up. I got a pretty close fit in Matilda but noted wrinkling despite the cups being filled. I think we have a similar shape and I saw that EM bras work really well so am going to try giving them another go
Wires are a bit too wide, so they're not perfectly in my IMF after the first half of the breast, but they don't hurt in my armpit. I think I have roots too short for this bra, because there's a little gap between my breast and the strap (2-3 cm), but the cup has no other empty space. The straps are well placed for me and are comfortable. The gore tacks and doesn't hurt.
This bra was immediately comfortable. The gore is a little wide for me but doesn't hurt. It's probably the most comfortable bra I have ever put on. I'm thrilled.
I'm going to try a cup down just in case, but I'm keeping this one so I don't lose out on it.
Wires are wide enough, immediate projection at the wires is present but the cup isn't too pointy/deep. The top of the cup and the lace do not cut in. The band isn't any more stretchy than my other 36's but I found this to be most comfortable on the second hook, not sure why.
Also love the color.
Edit: Discovered that I ...could only wear this for a few hours before it became uncomfortable and I had to tear it off. Buuut, there's a lot of play in the wire channels, so I pushed the wires out of the gore, so they're higher on the sides but the stiff part of the gore is lower, then sewed that down to keep them where I want them and it's perfect. I can wear it all day and then be surprised I still have it on when I get ready for bed. I literally forget I'm wearing it now. Read more 95 more words
It is not the perfect bra for me, but it is really comfy to wear when anything doesn't fit.
Pros: — really comfy, it gives the right pressure to hold everything without trying to murder me because the wires can't keep their shape — stays pretty well in my inframammary fold (mostly in the centre), I don't need to re-adjust every 2 minutes — straps don't try to merge with my shoulders
Cons: — the wires are too wide, so there is a bit of empty space around the armpits — I think my roots are a little too short to perfectly fill the upper part of the cup, but the gap is really tiny
Conclusion: Elomi Matilda has too wide wires for my breast and not enough space "in the front" (projection?). BUT I can keep it all day long without pain, and that's a good point for me!
This is a really close fit for me in terms of projection. I am very projected and pendulous shaped with center fullness (so plunges are a big no) and the lace top is what sold me on this. Normally I fall out of a plunge! The gore almost lays down which is a miracle. Due to my shape I never fill in the bottom of a cup and top tissue is extremely soft from breastfeeding twice. So my right side is about 1-2 cups sizes smaller than my left which often represents a challenge. I've been looking for a replacement for my Elomi Tia because it's discontinued and now I'm spilling out of the top of the old Tia's. My only issue is that (I think) due to the extra fabric I'm getting some rubbing under the arm front of arm area rubbing. Not armpit. Now I'm super sensory sensitive to clothing so am I just hyper focusing and it's a correct fit or what?
close? It looks too tall under your arm pits though. Would you consider it wearable? If this were me, I think the chafing would be an issue. I wonder if it could even be altered. the gore doesn't tack as if should, but that's hard to do with some bras. Hmm, "Fit tips for soft breasts" http://butterflycollectionlingerie.blogspot.com/2014/01/bra-fit-tips-for-soft-breasts.html Her blog has lots of interesting info. Interesting how she says make sure you have a medium to tall gore. That's hard to do if a person has close-set breasts though.
After wearing for a few hours I can concur that this is not the bra for me. The projection is better than others I've tried but the excess cup just causes too much chafing. I never know how much is *normal* or if I'm just super sensitive.
BraOdyssey I can't do a high gore at all. It pushes me very east-west and it's uncomfortable. Usually a 2-3 inch is good but then I need something like a lace or foam to put some distance between but not push, I can't stand if they are touching in the center. I didn't realize how close my breasts are together and how slim my ribcage is for my breasts! It's incredibly difficult to find something that fits all the boxes. I also usually will give on a few areas because I have to!
This is a stab in the dark, but what about trying a bra like Empreinte Cassiopée Underwired Seamless Bra (07151) They're *not that expensive* if you know your size (so you don't have to exchange it) & you buy them directly from France on sale. Esp. b/c you're in the U.S. and you won't have to pay any duties for imports, like we have to in Canada.
Something to consider, of course I'd probably try them on in the U.S. Unless you wanted to try on while buying them directly from France, and using PayPal "Returns on us"
I wonder if they would work for you because your breast root on the side doesn't look that wide! Looking at the pictures from the Dalia bra. Even though I know you said your "Holy Grail" bra was Elomi, which is known for having wide wires (not sure if they do that in every style).
It's my understanding their G cup is like a UK H cup; that's just from reading reviews. They run deep in the cup (allegedly), I can not comment about their bands though. I have no first-hand experience with the brand a.t.m.
BraOdyssey the Tia isn’t perfect by any means and the cups are too wide (much side boob) but it was better than what I was wearing prior 2016ish and I’ve always had a chafing issue So I just gave up and kept on with it. Lol
This bra seemed to fit pretty well at first, but I lost a lot of weight very quickly after buying it(I weighed about 203lbs on the day my order was delivered, as of about a week ago I am 188lbs). Even when I first got it there was some puckering towards the bottom of the cup, and I could tell the stretch lace on the top of the cup was hiding some fit issues. The wires are super wide - I've continued wearing it despite my weight loss for lack of other bras to wear, and I've had to use the tightest hook already and the wires go all the way to my back, which causes some awkward fitting. I would have to try it again in a 30JJ or 30K to comment better, I feel most of my fit issues with this bra are due to rapid weight loss changing my measurements noticeably, though the wires my extend a bit wide still.
At first I was very excited about this bra, seemed to fit very well and was comfortable. But then I noticed theres a bit of a shape mismatch, i had minor quad boob in the lower part of the cup but gaping at the top where the strap connects. Overall, I'll likely keep it because its very close, and supportive without underwire stabbing. I also do like the side panel shape.
The bra is very pretty, and looks much less sheer on than it does out of the box, which I appreciated.
So, I initially thought this bra fit really well, almost perfect. Well, I wore it for several hours - and the issues kept cropping up. Firstly, the band is tight - yet it creeps up in the middle to make a reverse U shape. It’s tight though so it digs in under my breasts. My best guess is that the wires are too flexible, so they don’t support the construction, which leads to the straps having to hold up my breasts, thus putting a large strain on the band in the back. I’ve tried this bra with a looser band, but it simply gives the same issues, just even ...worse upwards creep in the back. Compared to my Freya bras, the wires are just useless - I’m currently trying out a Freya Offbeat (75J/34GG) and the wires are much stiffer and supportive. I wonder if I could replace the wire in this Elomi Morgan with my worn out Freya Viva ones (the bra size in those is 32GG though)?
In conclusion, I will be returning this Elomi Morgan, as the bra’s wires can’t hold up my breasts without pulling very badly on the shoulder straps. Read more 84 more words
Did you do a band test. (Putting bra on back to front, upside down, under bust. Band should only be able to be moved/stretched bout an inch and no more then an inch and a half. I am over a K cup and even squeezing into a K I don't get this issue on the shoulders. Straps appear to be done up too tight. I wonder if you going up a cup would help. The wires curve further back at the back under my armpit on this one.
KatrinaKatrina thank you for the feedback - I noticed the straps were quite tight, but it’s not possible to make them longer. I think that’s what’s making the problems. They might just not be long enough for me ~ I tried buying the bra in a band size smaller (32H in uk size) because I thought perhaps the band was not tight enough, even though it’s way stiffer and less stretchy than my Freya bras. The band in that size is just a tad too tight for me and the straps are still not long enough. I’m pretty sad about it, I’m not very handy with sewing. Just incredibly annoying that the straps are too short grr
I would have kept the one in 34GG if it wasn’t for the fact that in that band size it seems to be loose, so when I bend over you can get your hand beneath the band in front, it’s very disturbing haha
Remember that when you go smaller in the band size from 34 to say 32 you need to then up the cup size. A cup size in 34GG is not equal to the cup size in 32GG. There is a good sight called boob or bust to explain this. I would go onto this sight or their facebook page as they have some good images to explain this. Band is sounds too loose from your description. Hope this info will help you.
Hi. Sorry I didn't read the comment saying you tried the 32H already. Band test is first thing you focus on before even thinking about the cups. You do this with the band back to front. Band should only be able to pull out by an inch. If the band passes this test then you can then focus on the cup. If the cup is still small in this band size the breast tissue will push into the band making it to feel tight. In this case you would need a bigger cup size so a 32HH. Remember to scoop and swoop also to get all your breast tissue into the cup.
What happens when you loosen the straps (or are they already let out as far as they can go)? A lot of women with fuller busts are in the habit of overtightening straps at least slightly. Elomi is not particularly known for flimsy wires so if letting out the straps does not solve the issue, I agree with you that the band may be too firm.
KatrinaKatrina that "test" is not a good one as manual pulling does not represent an elasticated band's performance on the body faithfully enough. Depending on cut, construction and materials, bands that can be pulled out quite far with the hand will anchor very nicely on the body for years of regular wear, while other bands that seem impossible to pull out more than an inch could be flapping in the wind in 2 months' time because they are cheaply made (or are just too tight for that wearer).
A more reliable, and far simpler test is to turn the bra upside down just as you suggested, take a few steps, lift arms, do a couple stretches while breathing naturally-- and see if the band stays where it is or not.
This is probably the best fit so far, though I wish there was a balconette. The straps are close enough for my narrow shoulders. The band is too tight, but with an extender I can wear it. The cups are a tad too small and give me a bit of quad-boob, but not too noticeable under clothes. Wore it for a day and it was so comfortable I forgot I was wearing it. The edge of the band didn't irritate my skin like the Panache Jasmines do. I think I will try a 38J and 38HH to see if the too small cup is band related or not.
I initially thought this bra fit, but I have since learned how to properly understand what fit looks like and know it is way too big! This is a great example of what a too-big bra looks like on large breasts. Notice the following in my pics:
1. Wrinkling in underarm area 2. Unsupported, unrounded shape in cups 3. Wrinkling under cup 4. Wires lower than breast root
If your bras are fitting you like this, especially under the cup, your cup size is too large. Keep sizing down until the wire is fitting your roots perfectly, even if you start to get quadding as you go down. It feels counterintuitive, I know, but the quadding will often go away when you hit exactly the right size!
Looks lovely!! Congrats!