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Bras » Panache » Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) » 30F 30:7

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Fits ribcage74.3
B. perimeter27.0
Stretched Band75.2
Band Length61.2
Cup width13.5
Cup depth24.3
Wire length25.5
Cup height16.5
Cup separation2.3
Gore height7.2
Wing height9.2
Strap width1.4
Hooks2

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    Hasn't set fit

    I’ve tried this bra on in probably half a dozen sizes and colours over the years. The last time I tried it, it was a 28G which was too tight of a band for me. I initially pulled a 32E in a purple shade and tried it and, as I expected, it was a little bit loose in the band and didn’t offer the proper band/wire tension. So I was brought this one.

    Nude is not really my colour but I can do some. This is one of the shades I seem to be ok with. It’s not anything really amazing or special. I definitely preferred the purple. ...

    The fit was comparable with the Jasmine of the same size I tried just before this. But this was more visibly shallow at the wire. It’s possible that it would be better if I had a 30FF, but I had already been there trying things in for quite some time, and since it is a taller gore like Jasmine, plus the firmer wires, I opted to skip trying a larger size.

    The stretchy upper lace is nice and I love the houndstooth print, but ultimately, it’s not quite the right one for me.

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    Didn't fit

    I bought this bra, along with the 30F - Freya » Gem Balcony Bra (1361), mainly as a fitting experiment. Both were recommended for women with short torsos. Panache is supposedly the widest wire width, good for wide root breasts, while Freya is generally the narrowest wire. I am not sure whether I have Broad Root Breasts, or just a lot of migrated tissue under and around my armpits on a very small rib cage due to 20 years of wearing a bra with a cup two sizes too small and a band two sizes too loose living in Orange in a ... Glass hell. I wasn't really enlightened about root size by comparing the two, but I can say this was a damn uncomfortable bra for me!

    EVERYTHING rubbed in this bra: strap edges at connections in front and back, gore and armpit poking, the lace itself, the edges of the wings, the bottom edge of the band... Aarrrrggghh! Both bras actually felt like my ribs were pressing outward at the bottom of the band, causing the top of the gore and the armpit end of the wires to dig in. Because the Panache is so much more heavy duty than the Freya, the problem seemed more extreme. The Panache Envy wires are long, rigid and flat, almost like a metal picture frame. They felt heavy, intrusive and unforgiving. They did not want to bend around my body, even though the industrial strength mesh band forced them to (note my underarm picture - the wire extends all the way past the midline to my trapezius muscle). The deep "U" shape at the bottom of the Panache wire made them dig into my ribs right at the lower corner. I even got the jewelry pliers out and bent them to go over the rib at the edge of my sternum they were pressing on, to no avail. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_sad.gif" alt=":-(" /> I did this with both bras -- the Freya Gem became slightly more comfortable, but not the Panache.

    What is the definition of "wide" versus "narrow" wires, numerically speaking? I laid the two 30F bras on top of each other. Both were exactly 5.5" wide inside between the wire ends. The biggest difference was the shape of the curve and the fact that the Freya was .5" longer than the Panache, and spread open more as I stretched the band.

    For those with small ribcages and wider roots, the distance from one outer wire tip across the frame of the bra to the other outer wire tip is 12.25" lying flat.

    As a 46-year-old who breast fed two for two years each, I'm a bit deflated on top (think of a hardboiled egg laying sideways in a short sock). Although the four-part cup seemed like it would offer great uplift, the "U" shaped wire and stretchy lace fabric did me no favors. I cringe at the pictures I've posted. I think my petite frame, short height, and very sensitive, stretchmark-scarred skin just couldn't handle this bra.

    On the other hand, my 20-year-old daughter who is also a 30F (though with a 26" underbust and plenty of all-around fullness), LOVED it and looked absolutely stunning in it!
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    • WELCOME TO BRATABASE :) your envy review helped me a lot

    • WELCOME TO BRATABASE :) your envy review helped me a lot

    • Sorry, but thats a funny review! Bra are so personal . . . Panache's older models apparently were wider, and also some models are considered wide in the smaller range, and narrow in the larger range.

      Because a 30F is going to be narrower than a 32F . ..

      Anyways, Panache's wires are the firmest - which is why I prefer them. By way of introduction, I'm 49, nursed my 3 kids a total of 10 years, so I'm also very soft - but also more full-on-top (the top of my breast rounds up above the apex), and a 32J.

      Getting used to Panache wires was really hard, esp because I'd been wearing unwired bras for decades. There is a break-in period, and also washing helps with the itching. BUt . . . the envy slides down slightly and hurts my ribs, while the Panache floris does not.

      finding your right size range is a start, and fine-tuning is a process. You may even want to try using an extender while breaking in bras, or even trying a 32 and see if that is more comfortable.

      Good luck!

    • Panache no longer has the widest wires. That is information from several years back. The envy doesn't have wide wires. The bra IS very firm, though! Sorry you are having a rough time.

    • Do you have Amazon prime by any chance? If you do its a great place to find a lot of bras to try. Also Asos USA - free shipping and returns, same with Journelle. Sorry I don't have any good advice with the wires outside of if its poking too much I wouldn't keep it!

    • Thank you for the feedback, Ladies. It sounds like I really need to try many more on before drawing any conclusions.

      So what is an example of a particularly wide wire model I could try to help me get to the um...root...of the shape question?

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      Curvy Kate's older models tend to have pretty wide wires, and softer/more flexible than the Panache torture wires. Their newer seasons like AW2014 and SS2015 have somewhat of a changed shape, more narrow and projected. Possibly their Princess or Dreamcatcher bras could help you determine width - they're pretty budget-friendly on Amazon right now. They're also unlined so you won't have a molded cup interfering with shape-diagnosis.

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    Fits

    I got my first Panache Envy back in 2014 and this bra turned out a real workhorse for me. The cup construction with side support pannels and stretch lace upper cups gives my FoB breasts a nice centered natural shape without looking droopy beneath higher cut necklines.

    The fit of this peacock colourway is consistent with the other colours (black and cassis) I've tried. Peacock is a rich warm teal and works very well with the characteristic texture mixing of this solid coloured bra.

    Peacock colorway

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    Fits

    Basic side support balcony bra. The cups are made from semi-sheer houndstooth fabric with floral patterned stretchy lace in the upper part. The contrast between the menswear-inspired fabric and the more feminine elements like the floral patterns and the little bows on straps an center gore give this otherwise unpretending design a little extra twist.

    I find this bra very comfortable and I like the soft touch of materials used. The shape is rounded but more in a tear-drop way. It's a perfect everyday bra which is pretty even if not as stunning as some other Panache or Cleo designs. But it works well in situations were support is more important than looks. I just did a whole moving wearing this one and everything was still in place afterwards.

    Black colorway

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    Didn't fit

    This is the first non-molded bra I've tried, so still figuring out my actual shape.
    I also bought this in a 30E, and in both sizes there is wrinkling at the center of the cup and pronounced wrinkling along the sides. The wires feel about 1/2" too wide. There also appears to be a little gapping at the bottom of the cups towards the sides. This bra feels more comfortable than the 30E, but the puckering is worse and I don't feel like I'm getting as much support on the bottom of the cups. I don't like the pulling and pyramiding towards the center, or the pointy rocket bra profile under clothes

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    Didn't fit

    This is a great fit in terms of cup shape. No wrinkles anywhere. Good projection, just the right amount of openness on top, and decently supportive. The Envy give me a rounded shape. The band is pretty standarad Panache TTS.
    Unfortunately the gore seems to be an issue area for me and for a lot of people. It's a bit too wide and tall. It presses into my sternum a bit after wearing it for a while. Though I still think the Envy is a bra that fits, despite the gore.

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    Didn't fit

    This bra seems very well-constructed and comfortable, but the wires are too wide for my narrow roots. Otherwise seems true to size.

    Nude colorway

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    Didn't fit

    When I initially try this on and do swoop and scoop, there is definitely an improvement in the fit, although the problem is only temporarily fixed because if I move at all the stretch lace falls back to where it wants to be. When I do this the tops of the cups are now filled out a bit better, but there still is lots of wrinkling - loose wrinkling on top from not being full, and wrinkling at the bottom of the cup from being pulled too tightly. As well as the wrinkling at the bottom, I can see and feel my boob forming a "shelf" inside the ... cup. The cup isn't forming to my breast, it is instead being pulled tight to make a flat part just above the underwire. I understand this may be because there is not enough immediate projection. I didn't expect this bra to give me these problems since it is recommended for people who have FOB breasts. The wires are too wide for me and they stretch too far around my side. The band is a teensy bit tight, so the underwire is a bit painful. Overall this is a poor fit for my shape, and is very uncomfortable for me to wear. The cups spacing is good though, and the gore hugs my body.

    From the front this gives a very rounded shape, but from the side it gives a fairly pointy shape. This may be due to the fact it does not fit though.

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    Fits

    I love this bra. It is a miracle worker for lift and shaping. I tried two other sizes before landing on the perfect fit and I'm glad I persevered. THis bra just feels grown up without being stodgy, perhaps something Katherine Hepburn would have worn.

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    Fits

    I loved my black 30F - Panache » Envy Balconnet Bra (7285), so getting this pretty cassis colorway was a no brainer. For me the natural but centered shape with side support panels and stretch lace in the upper cups is perfect for an everyday bra.

    Lookwise the texture mixing in an otherwise solid bra worked great in black and looks even richer in this warm purple shade.

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