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• Sorry this is not entirely relevant to your entry, buuuuut since you said that very tight bands are typical of cleo bras, I was wondering if you think that they are just very tight or perhaps just very uncomfortable (fabric etc). I ask because I literally just (like 10 mins ago hah) made my own extender for my Cleo Maddie 28D. When I first got it I thought that the band fit well, like pretty tight but maybe that was how it was supposed to be, but when I went to put it on the next day it immediately hurt. So I just made the extender thinking that that would help with the underwire pain. Seemed to at first, but after 10 mins I'm already uncomfortable again!!! And making the band any looser would be ridiculous (can already fit a whole hand).

  Is it Cleo? Is it the Maddie in particular? Or is it just me?

• betty2 Thats totally fine! This is for the Cleo Natasha. Some people do find Cleo bands uncomfortable because of the fabric (kind of scratchy, I guess), and others are uncomfortable from the tightness of the band. I don't mind the tightness, as I prefer really firm bras, but it definitely was tighter than I expected lol.

  Where is your discomfort coming from? Maybe the wires need to be more padded to suit your ribcage? Are the cups staying in place or are they moving out of your inframmary fold? I had a bra that refused to stay in my inframmary fold, which made the underwires

• (cont.) hurt pretty badly. betty2

• It's beautiful, and it does look like it's fitting you properly from your photos.
  Try bending the gore and report back to see how it feels!

• KariNicole Interestingly, it does look like it fits better in pictures than I think it does irl. The top lace part really does some crazy stuff in reality!! I will let you know my new opinion of the bra next time I wear it, haha

• tiggaren haha okay!
  I hope it fits Better next time you wear it!

• It looks 100% better on you than it did on me!
  wow! :) I don't remember bending the gores wires but if I did, it's because I was getting stabbed probably. :)

• or it might be because I moved the wires to the outside of the wire channels. :)

• It looks gorgeous on you!!

• Thanks for responding tiggaren ! You know, I think it's both (the tightness and the fabric). Before using the extender (after one day of wear) the underwires were really hurting me at the gore and my back was kind of itchy, and I assumed that both were due to it being too tight. After using the extender, I noticed that the underwires felt slightly better but still kind of hurt, and the itchiness was still there. I think maybe the lining on the underwires isn't thick enough for me and the fabric is just uncomfortable. Both would make sense since I have kind of a bony rib cage and sensitive skin.

  Loosening the band definitely did help a little though. I actually read that women with smaller busts (me compared to you) often prefer a slightly looser band. The logic being that a tight band's purpose is to offset the weight of the breasts and distribute it more evenly around the band. So if there's less weight, the band isn't counterbalanced in the same way and just digs into the wearer. This made a lot of sense to me when I read it and I think I've decided to stick with 30 bands since they provide adequate support for my smaller breasts and are far more comfortable for me to wear.

• Haha thanks Nayanya!! I will check on the wire channels, that didn't even cross my mind. The weird lace gapping at the top didn't show under the shirt I wore yesterday, so I think it will be part of my daily rotation :D

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