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Bras » Panache » Clara Full Cup Bra (7255) » 34GG 34:10

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Fits ribcage85.5
B. perimeter33.8
Stretched Band88.1
Band Length72.1
Cup width16.0
Cup depth29.5
Wire length34.1
Cup height20.9
Cup separation2.1
Gore height9.9
Wing height10.7
Strap width1.8
Hooks3

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    Fits

    The fit of this bra isn't perfect, but it's pretty darn close. I have a fun backstory with this bra though (sorry it's a bit long)-

    I've been breastfeeding continuously for 3.5 years. During that time I've been pretty prone to clogs anytime I even LOOK at a wired bra, so I've been mostly wearing bras I affectionately call "stretchy beige tarps." My youngest baby is a little over 1 year old and only nurses twice a day now, so I was VERY excited to make a trip to the local fancy bra boutique (Breakout Bras!) and have a proper fitting. Even before I got pregnant, I was wearing ... super old stretched out bras. I honestly can't even guess what size they were. In preparation for my fitting, I measured myself and followed the directions on r/ABTF and come up with a size somewhere in the neighborhood of 34G/GG. That seemed about right to me, I knew my band was 34ish but I couldn't find cups big enough in stores. I planned a girls' luncheon with my friends to try on bras, and off we went.

    When I got to the bra boutique, the clerk (fitter? salesperson? I don't know her actual title!) gave me a once over in my stretchy beige tarp and declared me a 32HH. I was skeptical I'd be able to breathe, but figured she was the expert, so I eagerly waited while she brought me some bras to try. She brought a mix of Elomi, Fantasie, and Panache bras... everything was VERY full coverage. Not that I really requested super sexy/plunge stuff, but I'm very petite and have a short torso, and full coverage bras always feel like they come up to my neck. (I've since determined that my shape is very short-rooted/high set, narrow, and projected. I'm 5'2" and my bra band in the back is usually only 4-5" above my pants... super short torso.)

    So I started trying on these bras, and I could BARELY fasten them... as in, if my ribcage were even 1/4" bigger, it wouldn't have happened. I was worried I was going to break/rip the bras. In hindsight I am certain the wires were probably distorted in everything I tried on. To say I was uncomfortable would be putting it mildly... my "break the tape" measurement is 32.5" and most 32" bands are painful. I told the woman that was helping me, and she dismissed my concerns, and said I'd get used to it. In all the bras I tried on, the straps had to be adjusted as small as they could possibly go. I realize now this was a sign that the cups were probably a bit too big and she was pulling up the slack (and they all still gaped a bit on my smaller side); it didn't actually make the straps too short. What it DID do was pull all the cups straight up into my armpits (I'm sure the super tight band and wire distortion played a part as well). The upper/outer sides of the cups were digging into my Tail of Spence and armpit and the area was red/raw feeling after about half a dozen bras. Again, I was told it was just because I'd been used to nursing bras, and I'd get used to it. She never took any bras back to try a different size, and according to her the band looked great.

    Despite these red flags, I really liked several of the bras she brought me. My very very favorite was this bra - the Panache Clara in Duck Egg blue. When it came time to pick one to purchase, I picked a Fantasie Rebecca (basically a beige t shirt bra) and this one in a 32HH. The last step at the boutique is that a manager/supervisor has to come over and "approve" your fit. Well, the manager didn't care for the fit of this one. Not for any of the reasons I would've cited though; she said it looked like the gore and armpit wires were too high on me and even if it were comfy then, it would bother me within a couple of hours. She did not approve it for purchase. (I think I could've bought it anyway, but forfeit returns? or something, I didn't push it.) So even though it was beautiful and I'd made all my friends that were with me come look at it in the dressing room because I loved it so much, I didn't take it home that day... which is probably for the best because it was a 32HH.

    I spent the next month obsessively reading bra blogs and reviews and measurements on Bratabase. I ordered a bunch from Amazon Prime just to try different sizes. And, lo and behold, I determined that a 34GG was a MUCH better fit for me in Panache bras! So I bought this one and am very tempted to wear it to the bra boutique, just to show it off. The fit is great now, the band is comfortable, the wires are comfortable (for Panache), the cups fit perfectly (it's like a second skin!), the straps are adjusted properly, it encloses all my tissue, and the cups are not up in my armpits/ToS. It's a bra miracle. I even posted a photo here in Bratabase, I was so excited about the fit. When I opened the package from Amazon and tried it on, angels sang. I lounged in it and read a book in bed, it was THAT comfy.

    It's not quite perfect - I am still a short person and it does have a tall gore (it comes higher than the majority of my breast tissue), but I think I can bend it just enough to make it work. I also think I could use just a smidge more projection near the center (just below/beside the gore). The bra fits strangely in that region (it's that inner triangle of fabric near the center), and it creates an oddly flat area, but you can really only feel it, not see it, because of the location. My only other complaint (if you could call it that) is that the wire swings a bit wide under my arm, and ends up about 1" past the end of my breast tissue. It doesn't bother me comfort-wise, just worth noting for others that have narrow roots. The lace around the band is a bit stiff but I fully expect it will soften up after a few washes/wears.

    Moral of the story: Don't let someone else tell you what bra you are comfortable in!

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      Way to go!!! Inspiring story :-) :-)

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      And, beautiful!!

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      Awesome! I have a fancy shop 3 miles from my house. I've been there twice. once just to buy extenders. The other time I tried on bras, but hated it. I hated their snotty attitude and how difficult they make everything. I called once asking if they'd be getting a specific bra in in my size, and they said no but they could special order it - yeah, they have NO returns under ANY condition for special orders so why on earth would I do that?

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      I have a love/hate relationship with that store right now. On the one hand, I don't care for the whole fit thing I described above. Who does that? Like, I am trying to give you money. Don't say you won't allow it because you don't think I'm comfortable enough. How condescending! Who can really be a better judge of my comfort than... me?

      On the other hand, it's very convenient to have a great selection of bras (including Comexim!) I can try on within a 30-minute drive. And they do surprise grab bags a few times a year, which is super fun, and they constantly do sales and things for locals. And their fitting tips on the website are great, I see them mentioned all the time! I did complain to a manager about my experience, and they gave me a really good coupon.

      Sigh. Bras are hard.

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      Well, to be fair, when I was a 32J (UK) they only had like 3 bras that fit. Now that I'm a 32JJ it'd probably be even less

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      I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience at Breakout Bras; I order from them occasionally and the fit notes are indeed helpful. But I'm glad you went with your gut and spoke with a manager about your experience. That fitter did not have the right attitude, nor was she very helpful. Hopefully she got the additional training she needed after your conversation with the manger, and it doesn't dissuade you from trying them again in the future.

      It seriously irks me when I read about folks who go in for a fitting and deal with snotty, high and mighty fitters who may know more about fit than you but also don't listen to your concerns or back down and change gears when they're found in the wrong. "Oh, this band is uncomfortably tight?" should be followed by "let's try the next one up" or "let me bring you a different size" not stubborn deflection.

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      They didn't really address it, in that they STILL insist I'm a 32 band and I have to really nag them to even let me try 34 bands. But I do still go there, partially because it's the only option, and partially because I like to support local businesses. I buy most bras online from Poland now, but I also encourage busty friends to go there for fittings (with the caveat that they seem to have reverse letterphobia and you shouldn't hesitate to tell them something is uncomfortable)!

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    Didn't fit

    Even though I went up a full cup size it still doesn't have enough depth at the wire for me and because of the bigger cup it poked me in the armpits to boot. I haz a sad cuz it's so beautiful and I had to return it.

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    Lovely round shape. I wear a 34GG in this but a 32H in Cleo Lucy.

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    I already have one of these and love it, see my review of 34GG - Panache » Clara Full Cup Bra (7255) for a longer review!

    The color I already have is the duck egg blue, and when I saw this one on eBay for $15 in beige (which should work as a nude for me), I couldn't resist.

    Takeaway: Stretch lace is forgiving, materials are soft/stretchy and comfortable. Functions like a minimizer on me, which I don't mind; everything is still very rounded. The elaborate all-over lace makes me feel beautiful even if it's not the most stunning silhouette.

    Fit: Just like my other Clara, this one ... has very tall wires, both under the arms and in the gore, but it doesn't bother me somehow. I am beginning to think I might try a 34G (one cup size smaller) in the next unlined Panache I buy, simply because I've noticed the Envy fits me much better in that size and these are fairly similar/based on the same model. There's nothing here to actually indicate I need a smaller size, but I also think the stretch lace is so forgiving it might be hiding an imperfect fit and I might get slightly more uplift with a smaller cup. I hesitate because I know the G-GG jump is where the construction changes (goes from 2 to 3 hooks, straps get wider), and I'm not sure if I'm willing to risk the comfort of the wide band and straps I get her just for slightly more uplift. On the other hand, this is the absolute tallest gore I think I can wear comfortably, perhaps a cup size down will scale down enough to reduce the gore as well. We'll see.
    It's kind of odd, in my other Clara there is an odd spot of tension on the lower-center cup area (the triangle panel nearest the gore) that I took to mean that this bra doesn't have enough projection for my center fullness, but in this one it's the opposite. There's some wrinkling in that same panel, whereas in the other Clara it's almost too taut. It seems like it might also be an issue with the construction; there are 2 layers in that spot, and it seems only the top layer is wrinkled. I am revising my theory - I think there is enough projection in that spot, but I think the shape of the wires/gore isn't quite right for my IMF in that region; like the wires are wider at that spot than my breasts so they are resting on breast tissue and I have a hard time filling it right there. Regardless, it's not an issue with comfort at all, and since that area is on the underside and in my cleavage, no one can see it, so I choose to ignore it because this bra makes me feel beautiful otherwise!

    Appearance: The lace is beautiful, just like my other Clara. The color is a very yellow-peach beige... It's not the same color as, say, my beige 32GG - Fantasie » Rebecca Spacer Moulded Bra (2024) or my 34GG - Panache » Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) . It reminds me of the color of vanilla ice cream that has that bright pastel yellow color. It's not a true nude on me by any means, but it'll work under light shirts. The shape it gives is very round. My shape is very projected, and this bra handles it just fine, but somehow gives me a very shallow/minimized appearance. I don't mind this at all - I have my 75G - Ewa Michalak » Sf Gładzioch Beż (849) for days I want some real "oomph" with an unlined beige bra. I actually toyed with the idea of converting this one to a nursing bra (I'm always in search of more pretty nursing bras), but I won't, because the stretch lace portion actually extends up to the shoulder area which would put the nursing clip on top of my shoulder. The lace is flat enough to not show under clothes, even thin clingy shirts; the seams show more than the lace does, but it's all pretty smooth.

    Construction: Stretch lace EVERYWHERE. There's a non-stretch mesh layer under the lace on the cups that actually does the heavy lifting. The straps in this size are wide and padded with some felt underneath. The back has 4 sets of 3 hooks/loops. There are side slings (double layer of the mesh), but I'm very center full with narrow roots and don't really need side slings ever so these just kind of sit there.

    In summary, although this bra doesn't give the same stunning silhouette some of my Polish bras do, it still does an admirable job lifting/rounding. If I hadn't found Ewa's unlined bras, I'd probably love this one even more. This bra does make me feel like a very grownup classy sort of person when I wear it, and it's very comfortable!

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    Didn't fit

    How I wish this bra had fit me! So beautiful, but once again - way too small in the cups! Great forward projection, but half of one breast is trying to escape on the top. Too bad - I really love the look and the side support.

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    • It doesnt sound like you have your size figured out yet

    • According to brat abase full measurement scale, I'm a solid 32HH. Grabbed this bra in GG, as Panache bands usually feel tight on me. Should have looked for HH :(

    • Of course, some bras fit differently too. I try to look at the cup depth to make sure they are consistent.

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    Didn't fit

    I tried the 'Moonlight' colorway, which is a purplish blue (like periwinkle, but darker) overlaid with grey lace. It has crossed elastic in the front, similar to the Panache Dahlia (7291)](model:10616). The straps are half adjustable and padded. It has a side support sling of doubled mesh fabric. Like the Dahlia, which I observed was comfortable for me in a 34 and thus looser than I am used to with Panache, the Clara also fit me in 34. I got slight wrinkles in the bottom of the cup; it didn't have enough immediate projection for me.

    Band: runs true-to-size, loose for Panache
    Cup: true-to-size
    Depth: similar to Andorra, not as deep as Jasmine or Dahlia

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    • I have this bra too and it's definitely not bandless. Maybe you are confusing it with Sienna?

    • It looked bandless to me. It has elastic that crosses over in the gore instead of running straight across the bottom.

    • The Sienna does not have elastic crossing across the gore. I own a few Siennas but did not keep the Clara.

    • Ok, I think there's a misunderstanding of what "bandless" means. When you look at your Sienna, can you see how there is no elastic or band under the cups? The wings attach to the cups, and there is a bridge between the cups, but there is no band under the cups. That is what "bandless" means. Another example is the Cleo Lucy.

      Jasmine, Tango, Andorra, Clara, all have a band that goes continuously around the whole bra, under the cups.

    • I don't think it is a misunderstanding about what bandless means, so much as inability to see the difference visually.

      I don't have the Clara anymore, but I looked at the Dahlia, which has the same crossing elastic as the Clara. It still looks to me as if the elastic starts under the cups, instead of running the whole length of the band. I compared it to the Sienna, and they both have a similar construction as far as I can tell.

      About 90% of all bras I look at are indistinguishable from bandless to me. If it isn't a longline or something with pronounced fabric under the cups, I really can't see the difference.

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      Elastic under the cups and crossing the center gore equals a band. The Sienna has neither of those things. The elastic on the Sienna begins at the outer edge of the cups, it doesn't continue under them. When you compare the Dahlia and the Sienna, can you see that bit?

      I hope you know that I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just wanted to make sure that the right bra was reviewed here and that other people didn't get the wrong impression about the bra in question.

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      I see elastic crossing the center gore in the Dahlia but in both the Sienna and the Dahlia I don't see it under the cups. They look the same to me. I'll remove the reference to 'bandless' in my description here. Now you know why I don't like to add bras that haven't been added yet: they almost all look bandless to me. Some people obviously do see a difference, but I really don't see it unless the band is highly visible.

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    Didn't fit

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    Added on Nov 07, 2015