MY SHAPE: round, projected, even, tall roots, close set, on the narrow end of average root width.
THE TAKEAWAY: Elegant plunge style gives a more natural shape with low apex. Good for those who are wider set and/or outer full. This bra wants more separation than you'd think for a plunge! Ladies who are centerfull, look elsewhere.
DETAILS: _Love_ this elegant gray number with contrasting cranberry bow! So very pretty. I'm a fan of plunges because I'm so close set, and the gore on this is super low and comfy (the underwires overlap at the center), but unfortunately this is otherwise a shape mismatch for me. There's an internal side ...sling in the cups which pushes my breast tissue towards the center, but not only does the side sling awkwardly indent into my breasts, there's also not enough cup fabric towards the center to adequately contain my already centerfull breasts. Thank goodness for stretch lace because it partially hides this fit issue from the front; however, I still get some minor quadding out of both cups. Sizing up won't help because the cups are already about 1/4-1/2" too wide for me.
Shape-wise this is similar to the Cleo Piper, a less lifted, more natural shape. It's very slightly pointy, but no torpedo boobs like the Jasmine due to a lower apex. No cleavage to speak of. Those who are FoT might get slight cakes-on-plate if you don't quad out of the stretch lace first...
I had a feeling this might have a stretchy band, so I sized down to a 28F. It's not crazy stretchy; I'm on the lower end of a 30 band and this wears like a slightly loose 28 (stretches to about 29"). I would not recommend sizing down unless you're in the bottom of your current band size. Read more 190 more words
Dear Panache, your plunges need to be plungier. See: Elomi's killer plunges. On your model the gore looks much lower; at my size it's 3.25," or at least 1.25" more than I like to see in a plunge. We sacrifice coverage (and maybe some support) at the center to be able to wear deep v necks. PLEASE PLUNGE MORE.
Also, this band is super stretchy! I bet the combo of soft stretch lace and I having 2 hooks instead of 3 is the key. Wore for half an hour, did light chores, lots of band movement. Went to second hooks, still some movement but not nearly so ...bad.
I should add I have been losing weight and it's possible I've lost enough to be in SUPER AWKWARD between band territory. So first I'll order the 34H, try it, and keep the one that fits best.
SOFT! Based on the model I was expecting something like the Jasmine, but the lace is much softer, even more so than the Envy. I was hesitant to buy the matching bottoms because Jasmine bottoms just do not work for me, but... now that I have to exchange anyway I am going to give them a try.
Partial transparency. Also based on the model I was expecting the more opaque appearance like the Jasmine, but the two inner panels have a slight transparency, I love it.
Oh yeah, the straps! They're thinner than average for my size, which is GREAT! Usually I'm looking at .75-1" for straps, and tho' these straps are more like .6" it's a noticeable and welcome difference.
The grey is darker than expected, so those of you with darker skin tones looking for a good "nude" should consider this. Read more 176 more words
The color of this bra is very ordinary grey, not too light, not too dark. The band and the cups are true to size. Ava gives not perfectly round but more natural shape. My breasts are supported enough, but I'm not sure about bigger size, as the lace is very soft and elastic. I like that it's a plunge stile, so the gore is quite low and the wire channels are overlapped, but Ava doesn't give cakes on the plate view.
By the way, undies run bigger. I usually wear S in cleo's, but here S was way too big for me, so I reordered XS, and it still is not a perfect fit for me. I'd prefer XXS ( that doesn't exist)
The gore is too wide on this bra. I ordered a 30DD earlier but it was too small in the cups and too big in the band, so I got 28F instead, which is my usual size. I don't know why the 30DD came with an overlapped gore, but the 28F didn’t, so I took it apart and narrowed the gore. It gives a more comfortable and better fit when the cups are less far apart. There is some quadding along the centre at all times of my cycle. My boobs are bulging out the cups along the edge of the cups. There is also some wrinkling near ...the wires, but minimal and not a big problem. The wires are too wide, but every UK bra does that on me. The band is quite lose. I've only worn this bra a few times and already on the tightest hook. And it still feels like the wires are riding up or sliding down sometimes. I think this bra would be great for someone who has top and centre fullness and projected boobs like mine. Size is the major issue for me here. Read more 83 more words
I wanted to try this bra in 28F but couldn't find one that is reasonably priced and not hot pink, and 30DD is the closest size I could find cheap. The band is too loose and the cups are too small, but the stretch lace accommodates my top fullness / tall roots. The gore is low and narrow - it's even overlapped, which I've never seen in a mass produced bra. The side support seam also brings things centre, which I like very much. I think a 28F would fit me perfectly, but it's been discontinued and mostly sold out
A lovely and comfortable bra! In this size it has enough plunge for me although it's not the lowest. I love that the wire channels overlap at the gore - heaven for my close-set boobs.
The cups are made of stretch lace which provides a forgiving fit. The lower cups are lined with non-stretch tulle for support and there are side slings made of a double layer of tulle. These aren't problematic for me but might be if my tissue was softer than it is.
Straps are fully adjustable. They look a little unfinished where they join the cup. Maybe some kind of lace ...detail at the junction would have been prettier.
The back is one layer of mesh which promises to be pretty stretchy over time. I wear a 34 or 36 band. I'm wearing this with an extender currently, but only need about 1/2" of it so I'm glad I got the 34.
I agree with others that this is not the most center-full-friendly bra. I am slightly center full and I get a little bit of quadding at the gore. It's barely noticeable though.
I don't have monthly fluctuations in size, but this would be a good bra for those who do. Just make sure the cup really fits, as the stretch lace can mask a cup that fits too small. Taking pictures and posting them here helped me see that the 34FF I tried first was not as good a fit as I thought. Try your usual size and a size up if possible. Read more 160 more words
Ordered a 34H since the 36GG - Panache » Ava Plunge (9396) was so stretchy. Overall fit remains the same for the most part. Band is much more snug on the first hooks (naturally) but not uncomfortably so. I get a little bit more quadboob at the gore because of my centerfullness, tho' the cup depth on both sizes remains 12." I imagine this will relax a little as both the lace and the band stretch out. Thankfully the stretch lace helps mask the issue, and I don't think it'll be a problem under tops.
I forgot to ...mention in the review for my 36GG that the gore overlaps slightly where the wires meet, which is awesome. At both 36GG and 34H the gore is a half inch wide because of this.
I will be returning the 36GG. I do recommend sizing down in the band for the Ava.
I did pick up the matching bottoms this time and they are the same cut as Jasmine briefs. However, the different materials used makes a huge difference in fit and comfort. If I pick up the blush Ava (SS 2017) I will grab the matching bottoms.
Later update after wearing a few times and thoughts:
So one thing brought up to me on reddit was how it was unfair to compare a full banded bra (Ava) to a partial banded (Tango) or one like the Elomi Betty Plunge Bra (8170). This is true. The gore ends at about the same place, but Tango's plunge seems shorter. That said, I would still like to see a plungier gore.
Overall I'm happier in the 34H but the bra is some combination of stretchy and I'm not used to 2 hooks anymore, I felt like I had to adjust the band down just a little several times a day. Right now I can't see myself picking up the blush Ava next year unless it is either a bit firmer or I can alter the band not to stretch so much. (There are some tutorials, I will try them out.) Ava does not come in HH, so I could not go down one more band to try that out. (Which blows my mind anyway, the possibility of fitting into a 32 band.)
The stretch lace is rather accommodating and so ridiculously soft tho', I REALLY want this bra model to work. And the stretch lace does mask the slight quad boob, which is not noticeable under tops.
I know plenty of wearers who are comfy and happy in extended size 2-hook bras, maybe I just am not one. Time will tell. Read more 376 more words
Unlike other Panache bras I've purchased, the band is looser so that I am wearing it at the innermost hook from the get-go. The cup is made entirely of stretch lace. There is no elastic at the top of the cup, just stretch lace, so it's more accommodating of various breast types. That said, my upper tissue must be so soft that the lace pushes into the tissue to form a false quad boob at the top that disappears when I wear a nipple cover. The inner side sling brings the breast forward. It is not as supportive as the Andorra bra, but that's alright. My primary problem ...is that the sides of the bra's cups are so high that it cuts into my arm pit, making the bra rather uncomfortable. The wire height isn't the issue; it really is the cut of the bra's cups. It's less of a problem if I maintain THE most proper posture, but I am not a ballerina. The gore is too wide and hence the cups too apart for my breasts that, though the cups are the right size, I'm finding myself constantly shifting the cups. No matter, the cup separation results in inner quad boobs. This bra is not for me. Read more 101 more words
Shape: projected, average roots, slightly narrow, close set, even fullness
Overall I love this bra. It offers a good amount of projection and the gore is low enough not to sit on my close set breasts. The wires are wide on me, so there is some wrinkling at the side, but personally its negligible and dosn't seem to be affecting my comfort or support. The top of the cup has a stretch lace with a stretchy mesh underneath. It does however feel a little closed so it may not be good for very full on top shapes, but it works well for my even fullness. The side support in ...the cup is a nice addition. I find that it gives me a slightly pointy shape, this may be a concern for some but I don't mind the shape it gives. Like most Panache bras it comes with 2 hooks in 3 rows, and while 3 hooks would have been nice I still find the band to be supportive.
The look of this bra is lovely. Its lacy design and pastel lilac colour are very pretty, and the gore has a nice matching lilac bow with a small shiny bead sewn on for good measure. I would recommend this bra to anyone with a similar shape to mine but it would work even better with a wider root. Read more 123 more words
I was only a little disappointed by this bra, and it has entirely to do with the look and not the fit. I was hoping it would be more sheer, have a lower gore, it looks very different in person than it does in online marketing photos. The lilac is not as pastel as I’d like either. But I’m keeping this bra and I’ll tell you why. The underwire is wide enough for my wide roots and the top of the cup lays flat with only minimal wrinkling, which is very rare with my FOB breasts that also have a tall shallow root tail. I like the natural shape the cup provides, and my particular breasts, which are self supporting despite being 36G, don’t float in the cup like they do in many other bras.