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Tia Bandless Bra (4280)

SS2017 - Bandless unpadded bra with a side panel and a upper panel in stretch lace. More...

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  1. 8
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    36HH

    Didn't fit

    ETA - a few months later, I've gained a bit of weight and have to admit that this bra just doesn't have enough projection for me. I can wear it just fine, but I constantly feel like I'm about to fall out the bottom and it's just a bad sensation. Still a lot to love about this bra for someone that it suits better.

    TLDR - It's narrow! It's projected! It has short, soft(er than Panache) wires! It comes in a 32 band! It's FREAKING BANDLESS! If you like Panache Envy but want shorter wires and can tolerate a wider gore, BUY THIS.

    I'm kind of in love with ... this bra. It has a lot of the things I love about Panache Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) , while not being Panache Envy (variety is the spice of life, also, jfc, the WIRESSSSS). Did I mention it's bandless?

    First awesome Envy-like feature: the left to right seam that is almost completely horizontal. In bras that have a more diagonal seam along with a mesh or lace upper portion of the cup, I find I get pillowing/in cup quadding where the mesh/lace and other material meet. I'm not sure how the seams are causing this or why a horizontal seam works better, but it definitely does.

    Second awesome Envy-like feature: stretch lace upper portion of the cup is not lined with any sort of ribbon or elastic or other material. While this often helps create a nice rounded shape, it acts like a rubber band on my soft tissue and creates another type of in cup quadding.

    (I am not 100% sure that a horizontal seam in and of itself has that much effect on fit for me, but every bra I have tried with a horizontal seam and no elastic at the top of the cup has also had very firm fitting stretch lace/mesh, which seems to have something to do with pulling my tissue away from the seam and avoiding the pillow/bubble/in cup quad there. In something like Cleo Hettie Balconnet Bra (9011) that has a horizontal-ish seam, firm mesh but also elastic, I get LESS pillowing at the seam but it's still there. Shoutout to cupandahalf for talking some of this out with me on another review. Anyway, where was I?)

    Here's where this bra beats Envy: THE WIRESSSSSSSSSSSS. They're shorter so no poking, and soft so the not exactly tacking center gore isn't painful. There's a good half to 3/4ths of an inch gap at the end of the wire channel, which allows for the wings to be taller and hold in my side squish.

    The gore is a little wide for my average set but center full breasts - it's just barely short of an inch wide at the top. However, the gentle wires and accommodating stretch lace mean I can kind of just scoot things around and be comfortable and contained.

    I have no issues with the quality of the bra. The print is kinda whatever for me - I suppose it's romantic in a noir sense? It could look pretty sexy with the right pair of panties, I guess. The embroidery kind of has an odd feel on the outside. It feels just like a very old, very nice embroidered arm chair at my grandmother's house. I'm pretty sensitive to textures and how things feel and it's exactly like that. You can't feel it at all on the inside of the cups, thankfully, just touching the outside.

    I would be happy if the cups were 14" deep. At 13.5", they feel just deep enough. I did a bit of yoga in this bra and didn't feel like I fell out too much, but I haven't done anything really physical yet.

    This isn't a full coverage bra, but it's not going to give you a ton of cleavage either. I haven't seen Elomi calling it a balconette, full coverage or anything, just a "bandless" bra. I felt comfortable wearing it under a v-neck t-shirt from Target, but if you're TRYING to get cleavage, look elsewhere.

    Lastly, I hope this review was helpful. If there's anything I could do better or information you'd like to see. I know my reviews tend to be a bit long, but I like to cover everything that seems relevant about a bra.

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    • 1

      Awesome!!! Looks lovely!!

    • 2

      Pretty. Comes in my size. But Envy was the most painful bra I ever owned . . . too shallow for me. Not sure its worth the risk.

    • 3

      I love this review! I was just thinking of getting this bra and I think you've sold me on it. It's funny, I thought BANDLESS! just like you when I saw it.

    • 1

      Bandless? Awesome! I'd give it a try, but I need a 30 band in most UK bras (have tried a 32 Elomi already and the band was riding up on the tightest hook). I wish there were more bandless bras for larger cup sizes. Being short and having a bit of squish, I find some banded bras to be excruciating, especially when I'm sitting for a while (*cough* Jasmine *cough*).

      Looks great on you, and it looks perfect under that t-shirt!

    • Thanks y'all. :)

      dbmamaz How was Envy painful for you? Wires? This is a bit less projected, so probably a pass there anyway.

      cupandahalf I'm really glad I tried this bra. Bandless bras are so rare the only one I can remember trying is Elomi Etta, which I just hated. I thought maybe I didn't like bandless bras, but I definitely do!

      LadyInBlue :( If Etta is ever available in a 32 band, maybe try it. I found that it was a much firmer band than any other Elomi style I've tried. Have you tried Andorra? I find bras that have a lot of band in the front are more comfortable than something like Envy or Jasmine. The extra fabric helps everything lay flat rather than getting bunched up and ouchy.

    • I've never tried Andorra, all that lace under the cups makes me wary. If it's soft, it may not bother me. I really do not need any new bras right now, but maybe next time I'm looking for something different, I'll give it a try, as long as I can find it on Amazon Prime.

    • Yes, for me the envy was too shallow and it got pushed down to, apparently, the exact most painful spot on my ribcage? No other bra has hit it.

    • Wow! You are the first person to measure and review Elomi Tia Bandless Bra (4280) !

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      It did just come out. triumphof doing the hard work others won't do ;)

    • triumphof I just noticed the back of this bra is really interesting. How does it look/feel with the wide band and lacy wings?

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      cupandahalf The band is really comfortable! It's lined with the same light tan fabric as the cups, so no lace really touches my skin except at the very back of the band along the straps as seen here. On the outside of where the strap and band meet, that's just lace. Honestly, I hadn't noticed that it was just lace there until I read your comment and looked at the back of the band. I have a lot of squish that's not even remotely breast tissue so I appreciate the wider band with the narrowish, short wires.

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      cupandahalf not sure if I managed to tag you in my previous comment or not. Also, next time I'm wearing the bra I'll try and get a picture of the back but no promises as to the quality :D

    • Thanks so much!

    • Hi triumphof thanks for your review. I'm curious to try a Tia as an alternative to my favorite Jasmines. I need to order online, and so I'm curious to know how the sizing compares for you between Elomi Tia Bandless Bra (4280) and Panache Jasmine (6951) . Thanks!

    • Oops, I meant to ask how the sizing compares to ENVY, since that's the one you mentioned. Thanks :)

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  2. 5
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    36HH

    Didn't fit

    I had a 34HH Tia back when I was a smaller size, and while it still wasn’t a perfect fit, it was nowhere near as awful as this!

    For some reason this bra has wrinkles and emptiness on the sides (I’m guessing the wires being too wide is the culprit). But then it smashed my boobs so close together there was no way the gore was ever going to even touch my sternum. It was literally that bad. The fabric also literally has no give except for the lace on top, which was the only part that fit fine.

    So R.I.P. to my dreams of ever wearing a Tia again. Unfortunately, it is not a match for me anymore. 0/10 would not recommend for my body.

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    • 1

      I love the enthusiasm in your reviews. It’s almost like hearing you actually talk about the bras. Sorry this one doesn’t work for you. Do you think it had enough projection? Or not? I’m trying to learn how different fit issues can look so I can find a better fit myself.

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      dagmarwulfe thanks! I’ve always been pretty casual in writing, so it just come naturally to me haha!

      The problem with Tia (at least for me) is that the fabric literally has no give. According to its measurements, it should be a more projected bra, but I think because of its build it just didn’t work out for me. I need quite a bit of projection!

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      The Tia is such a weird one. I'd be curious to see if it fits you better in a 36H! Elomi sizing is just weird and confusing.

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      Adler613 when I used to wear a 34HH I had a Tia and the gore never tacked, so I’m not sure if sizing down to 36H would be a good fit but I guess it’s worth a shot!

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      Yeah, it's super weird sizing, like I said! I find 2 sizes too big will seem to fit right, 1 size too big acts too small and doesn't want to tack, and 2-3 sizes below my calculator sizes either fits perfectly or is a clear shape mismatch. So weird.

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      I tried Tia a while back in what was my actual size then, but the fit was totally off. The wires were insanely wide and the cups much too tall for me. (and I usually like tall bras) So yeah this one is an odd one. Maybe there have been some that were okay then they made others with false grading in larger cups? Sorry it doesn't work for you anymore.

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  3. 5
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    32J

    Didn't fit

    The bra was a huge fail on me. I tried a few plunge bras from Elomi and had some issue with them then I decided to try one of their "full cup" bandless / banded styles. The Tia is a bandless bra, they do not state that it is a full cup bra but I would say it is just by how it fits? The cups came up very high on me, it is one of the tallest bras I tried recently. The band feels tts for a 32 band and was a good fit on me (I'm around 31 Inch underbust). The wires were much too wide ... for me, it was ridiculous, they ended on my back.

    The fit reminded me of the 32JJ - Curvy Kate » Delightfull Full Cup Bra (1111) but the CK bra wasn't as tall as the Tia. Also while the cups fit me very well when looked at from the front, there was some weird underarm side gaping going on. There was too much room where I don't need it. The cups had a stretchy lace part that would cover almost all my breast tissue that is why there was not cutting in from the cup edge because no soft tissue left to cut in. The bra is really full coverage that's why I would call it a full cup. I can say that the bra is good quality and the fabric is nice, the cut and shape is just all wrong for me.

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    Updated on Oct 19, 2019 Flag this


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      Oh, wow... those underwires sure took a walk.

      It would be an interesting experience if you tried it with smaller, like G/H letters.

      The situation is reminescent of past thrift (bröcki) shop failures I had when band fits but cups are way too voluminous.

      Except that, lol, given the huge misfit, the external parts of the cups behaved as a wings.

      Have a superb weekend ;)

    • 2

      Although this one didn't workout for you, at least it added valuable data here to help others in their search for the perfect bra. For that, we all thank you! Each and every bra helps to strengthen the database, so yay for the new data you added!

    • 2

      Yikes, that has to be one of the tallest bras I've ever seen. Who was this built for?

    • 2

      Yes at least I got some data from the bra. It was interesting to try. I don't think that G or H cup would work for me. It would be too small. On the front I need the room in the cups, it is just too wide at the sides. Maybe a 34H with a firm band?

    • Yeah, 2 to 4 cups smaller would be getting you some serious quadding for sure!

    • Those cups look very voluminous for the letter.

      I mean a volume takes 3 dimensions and the conventional definition of cup size is made on the base of a single dimention, the circumference.

      Going down in the alphabet could be an interesting experience.

    • 4

      @femineaaterna With all due respect, you are trying to "school" someone who has been on the site for more than 6 years and has plenty of experience and knowledge on the subject. You seem to lack an understanding of the brand and their sizing, and suggesting alisa go down 2 to 4 cups from a J cup to a H or G cup is not logical at all, and in reality is insulting. While a 32HH (not 32 H or 32G) may yield better results for her, it looks more like this bra shape/design does not match her body. You are not factoring in all the aspects that matter, nor are you respecting her existing experience or knowledge by trying to teach her things she already knows or suggesting an illogical cup drop.

    • MamaPagan ,

      I have no intntion to disrespect anyone. This would be a cognitively sterile effort.

      I might have been on this site for far less than anybody else, agreed. However I have decades of practice in engineering complex structures and their configuration mechanisms.

      Which is why I might have a different experimental aproach.

      You'lll be amazed to know the amount of pre-emptive truths that get successfully challanged in the aftermaths of mishaps.

      I was suggesting, a non-destructive experiment since apparently things went wrong despite more or less matching numbers.

      Approach similar to what allows safe air travel even if occasionally some cut corners by excessively re-using what used to work until it didn't.

      Which is why I didn't see any disrespect and I'm genuinely sorry if unknown to me factors led you to perceive offense in my arguments.

      Here I have nothing to sell or prove. Occasionally I state what and/how things work for me and attempt to maintain a positively spirited open discussion.

      And once again, I'm genuiney sorry if I hit undocumented wires and short-circuits ensue.

      I can equally understand that this is your, the older users playground.

      My scope is not to disrupt, this is a pretty nice innocent site with persons I have respect for.

      So if for some reasons I'm becoming a "persona non grata", then, done deal, I'll fade away.

      Thanks for your time, looking forwards to read you ;)

    • 2

      @femineaaterna I am not suggesting you "fade away" at all, but I am asking you to take the time to consider the person's experience and knowledge, factor in all aspects of body differences, and to respect others opinions and limitations before commenting.

      It is not a matter of how long someone has been on the site, it's a matter of taking their point in their bra journey (how long they have been on their quest for proper bra fitting) when making suggestions, as well as factoring in their unique body shape/limitations as well as the brand in question. (A G in one brand is not the same as a G in another-that's why the site uses index numbers. )

      @alisa has a lot of experience, and her adding a bra fail is not her asking for help, it is her adding the data, experience, and her insight on the bra model and design in comparison to her size and shape for others who come to the site in search of such data. She is in a unique size range, like myself, which has very little data available so every bra entered straightens the database, and in turn is valued and treasured.

      Regardless, 2-4 cups smaller would not fit her, nor would it resolve the issues she experienced, but it would cause more issues for sure. And while such a suggestion wouldn't stop alisa from adding more bras, making such a suggestion to some would be very offensive and cause them to be hurt/insulted and not want to add more data to the site. Some reading your suggestion could be deterred from adding their own bra data, especially bra photos, out of fear of such comments made on their reviews. I have seen it before, and it hurts the site. Bras and the intimate nature of bra fitting is very complex and a super sensitive area, please remember that.

    • MamaPagan ,
      Ouch...

      I had size charts and a pen. Estimated the excursion of the underwire. Scribbled numbers here and there. Attempted to move the discussion in a constructive analytical direction.

      Occam's razor says that amongst all hypothesis, the simplest one is the best.

      Which is that this is not a discussion on a mission critical life supporting component and no one will be hurt if I rest my case due to unforseen colateral escalations.

      So this is what I'll do, sorry for the incurred inconvenience.

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      alisa Sorry for derailing your review! I appreciate your added data and value your experiences. It greatly helps build this site for both current and future members. Thank you for your contributions!!

    • Sorry for the unproductive chatter alisa . Anyone can have a bad day. And with the weather outside, today's gonna be my turn. So I'm outta here.

    • 3

      Everything okay. I already answered what I tought about trying G/ H cups here and thought the topic is done. https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dnbg9/#review-comment-23244
      There would only be one case where I consider a H-cup... if a band runs 1 size small like on CK Victory, then I size up to a 34 band. Since the cups run big I would maybe size down to 34H a sistersize of 32HH.
      G cups… those times are long gone.

    • 2

      alisa Thanks for the writeup! I love wide sides and this looks like something that I really want to try! And the stretch in the cups gives me hope that it will help me with my one larger than the other issue.

    • 4

      alisa I experienced the same gapping on the top edge- it’s just a flaw/feature of the design- I think it’s designed for someone with a very V shaped back.

      It’s funny the cup height is so tall on you. In my size the cup height was good, pretty short for a full cup bra, in fact, but I had the same issue with not enough center room so I had to size up. I loved the lace they used and found the back to be really quality and firm.

    • 1

      cupandahalf I also was shocked that the bra is so tall on me. My back is not a V-shape, the bra would therefore not work in a smaller size because it is not roomy enough in the center to size down. Did you exchange the wires on your bra? I found them to be more flexible than newer Elomi wires.

    • 2

      Wow! Easy to see

      * how tall the cup is on you and
      * the wire going around to your back.

      It makes me wonder about the cup width and depth measurements. Why is the depth ratio 2.4 for cups that wind around to your back? Strange. Doesn’t add up.

      And with cupandahalf ’s comments... maybe you just got a “lemon” or maybe 32J is a hole in their Tia size range where the design turns into a fluke with weird cup height, width etc., a shape mismatch for **anybody**.

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  4. 2
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    40JJ

    Didn't fit

    This is a taller, softer, better version of Elomi's Plunge with lace model. Great for average to tall roots. The gore is very narrow at top and bottom. The back band has a lace overlay which is pretty and also collects a lot of back fat near the armpit. The wide black part of the band is not a wide elastic but just a pretty feature. There is tons of projection at the bottom of the cup, which is wrinkled until I put it on. So deep I could probably size down, which I can't in the Plunge model. Band is tts, wires are very soft and comfortable. I highly recommend this bra.

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    • 1

      Narrow at top and bottom: woo hoo!!

    • 1

      I know right?

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  5. What I like about this bra:
    -it’s bandless, so it (for some reason) seems to stay in my IMF better
    -the material is heavier, so it shapes my breasts better
    -the stretch lace on top hugs the top, but doesn’t cut in like some other Elomi bras with stretch lace

    The (unfortunate) things I DON’T like about this bra:
    -the gore doesn’t tack, it floats or sometimes flips and rests on the bigger side
    -sometimes I get weird gaping around the arm holes, kinda by my armpits
    -the depth...you can tell in a profile view that it is definitely not deep enough for me at the apex so it kinda just squashes them flat
    -the material ... wrinkles on the bottom around the wire, not because it’s a poor fit in that aspect but because it doesn’t stretch like mesh material does, so the way it is sewn makes the wrinkles (if that makes sense?)

    I tried this in a 34J as well, and I was swimming in the cups, so I know a bigger size won’t fix my issues. This bra and it’s counterpart (the Dune colorway) are still heavy in my rotation, but if and when I find other bras that fit better, they’ll be next in line for retirement. I’ve noticed that the nude colorway (Dune) fits way worse than the black and I honestly have no idea why.

    Anyway. This bra works for me, but obviously isn’t a “perfect” fit by any means.

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  6. 1
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    34G

    Didn't fit

    I have had this bra for a few months now and I've found that I love the fit except its seems the cups have stretched out on the outside. By that I mean that there are noticeable gaps on the outside of my breasts. This is such huge let down because everything else is as close as I'll ever find. I do find that it comes up higher under my breast than I'm used to, so I often want to pull it down.

    Updated on May 24, 2018 Flag this


    • I actually looks too wide? Idk, thats why I havent tried many elomi

    • 1

      I think it's the elastic they sew on the edges. Since it has a loose lace overlay on the back, the elastic isn't stretched much, meaning it doesn't dig in/gets loose. My Tia is the same way. However, it's my best fit and best shape so I'm living with it as it doesn't affect the support really.

    • 1

      A bonus is it doesn't cut into my pecs right there though!

    • 1

      This would be perfect for me as my breast tissue protests material tugging/straining across the upper-outer quadrant.

      You could a a dart to remove the slack.

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  7. 1
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    40J

    Fits

    See my review of 40JJ - Elomi » Tia Bandless Bra (4280). This is a more beautiful color and a better fit. In fact, it fits so well by itself I don't think I have to do any alterations at all, except perhaps take in the cup slightly under the arm where it gaps. The wires fit well, the cups fit, band fits. All in all a really lovely bra. I will rebuy it when I have more money.

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    • 1

      You are stunning in red! No alterations: woo hoo :-) :-)

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    34H

    Fits

    This is the most comfortable bra I've found in a while. I really like the bandless aspect, I have omega shaped breasts and always have some space at the bottom of the cups and usually end up with the band under the cup folded up as well. Since there is no band, the wire can actually sit in the crease of my breast instead of an inch or so below.

    The top of the cup is pretty stretch lace that feels sturdy and really gives a custom fit. The cup provides a lot of lift and holds/supports well, I'm not bouncing around. It gives a nice shape too, rounded and natural, although you can see the seams through thinner/tighter shirts, which I've just accepted as part of having a large bust.

    The band is now slightly large, I think it's a stretchier material so I'm already using the middle hook after about 2-3 months of wear. I will be buying another of these and will probably go down a band size to accommodate for this.

    Black colorway

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    36HH

    Didn't fit

    The gore and wires tack a lot better in the 36J - Elomi » Tia Bandless Bra (4280) even though the cup is a lot bigger. I think maybe I just need all the projection of the bigger cup to make it sit right. Otherwise, the fit is similar but less dramatically oversized on top and the outside.

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    36J

    Didn't fit

    This is by far the best-fitting gore/underwire experience of my life! Unfortunately, it didn't fit quite right in the rest of the bra. I'm a little too inner-full for it, so I had wrinkling and lots of weird empty space up in the top outer corners of the cups, just past the bra strap. I think the bandless shape really did a lot to make it more comfortable and help the gore lie completely flush no matter what weird slouch I did. It was also still pretty wide in the gore, alas, so I haven't bought another one. I'm really tempted to try another size, though! That black lacy pattern was really gorgeous, too.

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