ETA - a few months later, I've gained a bit of weight and have to admit that this bra just doesn't have enough projection for me. I can wear it just fine, but I constantly feel like I'm about to fall out the bottom and it's just a bad sensation. Still a lot to love about this bra for someone that it suits better.
TLDR - It's narrow! It's projected! It has short, soft(er than Panache) wires! It comes in a 32 band! It's FREAKING BANDLESS! If you like Panache Envy but want shorter wires and can tolerate a wider gore, BUY THIS.
I'm kind of in love with ...this bra. It has a lot of the things I love about Panache Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) , while not being Panache Envy (variety is the spice of life, also, jfc, the WIRESSSSS). Did I mention it's bandless?
First awesome Envy-like feature: the left to right seam that is almost completely horizontal. In bras that have a more diagonal seam along with a mesh or lace upper portion of the cup, I find I get pillowing/in cup quadding where the mesh/lace and other material meet. I'm not sure how the seams are causing this or why a horizontal seam works better, but it definitely does.
Second awesome Envy-like feature: stretch lace upper portion of the cup is not lined with any sort of ribbon or elastic or other material. While this often helps create a nice rounded shape, it acts like a rubber band on my soft tissue and creates another type of in cup quadding.
(I am not 100% sure that a horizontal seam in and of itself has that much effect on fit for me, but every bra I have tried with a horizontal seam and no elastic at the top of the cup has also had very firm fitting stretch lace/mesh, which seems to have something to do with pulling my tissue away from the seam and avoiding the pillow/bubble/in cup quad there. In something like Cleo Hettie Balconnet Bra (9011) that has a horizontal-ish seam, firm mesh but also elastic, I get LESS pillowing at the seam but it's still there. Shoutout to cupandahalf for talking some of this out with me on another review. Anyway, where was I?)
Here's where this bra beats Envy: THE WIRESSSSSSSSSSSS. They're shorter so no poking, and soft so the not exactly tacking center gore isn't painful. There's a good half to 3/4ths of an inch gap at the end of the wire channel, which allows for the wings to be taller and hold in my side squish.
The gore is a little wide for my average set but center full breasts - it's just barely short of an inch wide at the top. However, the gentle wires and accommodating stretch lace mean I can kind of just scoot things around and be comfortable and contained.
I have no issues with the quality of the bra. The print is kinda whatever for me - I suppose it's romantic in a noir sense? It could look pretty sexy with the right pair of panties, I guess. The embroidery kind of has an odd feel on the outside. It feels just like a very old, very nice embroidered arm chair at my grandmother's house. I'm pretty sensitive to textures and how things feel and it's exactly like that. You can't feel it at all on the inside of the cups, thankfully, just touching the outside.
I would be happy if the cups were 14" deep. At 13.5", they feel just deep enough. I did a bit of yoga in this bra and didn't feel like I fell out too much, but I haven't done anything really physical yet.
This isn't a full coverage bra, but it's not going to give you a ton of cleavage either. I haven't seen Elomi calling it a balconette, full coverage or anything, just a "bandless" bra. I felt comfortable wearing it under a v-neck t-shirt from Target, but if you're TRYING to get cleavage, look elsewhere.
Lastly, I hope this review was helpful. If there's anything I could do better or information you'd like to see. I know my reviews tend to be a bit long, but I like to cover everything that seems relevant about a bra. Read more 618 more words
I have had this bra for a few months now and I've found that I love the fit except its seems the cups have stretched out on the outside. By that I mean that there are noticeable gaps on the outside of my breasts. This is such huge let down because everything else is as close as I'll ever find. I do find that it comes up higher under my breast than I'm used to, so I often want to pull it down.
See my review of 40JJ - Elomi » Tia Bandless Bra (4280). This is a more beautiful color and a better fit. In fact, it fits so well by itself I don't think I have to do any alterations at all, except perhaps take in the cup slightly under the arm where it gaps. The wires fit well, the cups fit, band fits. All in all a really lovely bra. I will rebuy it when I have more money.
This is a taller, softer, better version of Elomi's Plunge with lace model. Great for average to tall roots. The gore is very narrow at top and bottom. The back band has a lace overlay which is pretty and also collects a lot of back fat near the armpit. The wide black part of the band is not a wide elastic but just a pretty feature. There is tons of projection at the bottom of the cup, which is wrinkled until I put it on. So deep I could probably size down, which I can't in the Plunge model. Band is tts, wires are very soft and comfortable. I highly recommend this bra.
This was on okay fit while trying to discover my "true" bra size.
This is the first bra that's closert to my cup size than every other bra in a while (read: I used to wear 36-38 DD's prior to this). Pre-ABTF I ordered a 36HH based on my measurements and the inch difference rule between your boobs and band size.
However, the cups being ended up being too big for me and I had a strap-gap. My breasts have narrow roots and am full on top but upon reflection I don't think have enough the bottom fullness and/or eveness that this bra requires because in addition to ...the wrinkling cups (due to the cup size) I had another strange little gap at the bottom of the cups that my breasts couldn't fill out. The underwire was good but didn't align with my IMF and if I scooted it up, the underwires would stab me in the underarms (which is apparently a common problem for us petite ladies) and the gap I experienced was a little bit closer to the curve of my breast root, but nevertheless the wires were too wide for me which left me with another gap.
I do find that that I had to move to the second row of hooks a bit quickly, although it could maybe be attributed to my current dieting at the time.
I tried this on after wearing the Panache Jasmine in a 36H (along with it's own set of issues), and the underwires poked my breast so badly it hurt.
I would definitely recommend this bra for someone who has a decent amount of bottom fullness and wider roots. Read more 172 more words
I think the thing I like most about it is it fits well while giving me a more minimized profile, I think by giving my boobs lots of space at the bottom of the bra and a very gradual rounding to the bust point, and having the bust point low enough to get a more rounded top portion. This bra is specially graded for short, narrow rooted folks with a lot of projection. It's really ...a great design. I would love Elomi to make more on this base because I am less of a fan of the feel of the fabric, although this red is perfection and the lace is super soft.
My typical size in Elomi bras is somewhere between 38JJ and 40JJ depending on band and cup depth at the bottom. I would therefore suggest that this bra runs deepest at the bottom and firm in the band.
Alterations: with my favorite Panache wires in it and the gore overlapping the fit is perfect. I don't have any digging in or quadding, and the cup is nice and short on the sides, the gore, and the cup height is perfectly full coverage. A great bra for shorter roots, either full on bottom or full on top because of the stretch lace. Read more 146 more words
I normally wear in between a size 38K and 40J in Elomi bras. In this one, 40JJ is too big, and 40J is just right because it has been correctly graded for my size and the band is very true to size. See my review for 40J - Elomi » Tia Bandless Bra (4280)