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Fits ribcage0.0
B. perimeter0.0
Stretched Band73.7
Band Length61.0
Stretch ratio1.2
Cup width13.5
Cup depth24.1
Depth ratio1.8
Wire length24.9
Cup height16.5
Cup separation2.0
Gore height6.4
Wing height8.9
Strap width2.1
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I’ve got some very mixed feelings about this bra. It was bought from lcl0706 and we thought that it had a chance of fitting because it closed in quickly, making it small for a 30FF, and since I tend to be in 30Fs mostly, a small fitting 30FF had a chance. This bra mostly fits, but lacks in a few areas, but it’s so pretty and I love the purple and sheer black combination.

My shape is average to low set, narrow and shortish roots (or taller roots with deflated tissue making them functionally short still), center full and relatively close set, even to full on bottom, with soft and malleable pendulous tissue. I need projection at the wire but only average projection at the apex. My pendulous soft tissue is sometimes deceptive.

Back to the fit. The band is snug but not as tight as my Ellace in 30E. It’s a 3 hook whatsamadoosit. And I actually did it up right on the first try! I kinda like the support of the extra hooks but it feel like it’s an industrial band now! The wires, which don’t seem to be different from the Ellace in 30E when I lay them on top of each other or measure them, but when I put it on and secure it, are quite a bit wider than my breast tissue, and not a tiny amount, but like a finger width or more. Some of my pics illustrate this. I also feel like the side wings and edge of the cup are up in my armpit so unless my arms are in a neutral or reverse position, I get cutting in. The cups are also too big, but because of the way it closes off, I’m not sure if I can size down or not (they almost fit). I actually think I might. It’s more obviously larger on my small side, as the cup does rest nicely over my larger side, especially if I am leaning forward/over, but I can get fingers under both cups easily. And I’m not filling it up a lot more before my period, either, so it’s not really a period bra. But I get great depth at the wire and it gives me a nice supported shape, and I love the peekaboo with certain tops.

So at this point, I do like it, but of all of my new bras, it is not the best fit on me. I’m not sure if I am going to keep or if I’m going to re-list it.

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Updated on Apr 09, 2018 Flag this

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  • 3

    This is a really pretty bra on you. I can see how all the little issues add up, even though it looks good. It might be one that makes you miserable by the end of the day.

  • 1

    If you like 2 hooks, figure out which Cleo's are FOB maybe. Tho i hear they are wide in your size range (they are narrow in the top of their size range)

  • 1

    I still think this is a very acceptable fit on you but I can see where the wires are wide and how it feels like a lot of bra. The shape is lovely though and given how closed it is it’s still a toss up on if a 30F would fit.

  • 3

    This is my favorite bra of all time. I have three of them, none of which fit right now but there is no way I would ever part with them because they are so beautiful.

    If you need a smaller, less closed bra (besides Ellace), Florence fit me similarly but is more open on top.

  • 2

    I've had many bras where the fit was effectively "too big" i.e. the cup fit a little baggy, but it was not the cup volume per se that was excessive--it was the strap placement (too far out /wide-set). This meant that when I wore it, with the straps necessarily too close to one another or angled in or both, it artificially opened up extra depth in the upper part of the cup, causing the fit to be different from what the designer intended.

  • Brash5 is really pretty on me which is why I’m undecided despite the fit issues. I’m not exactly miserable by the end of the day, but do feel like I have better fitting bras. But then again, it’s used and I got it for a very reasonable price, so it’s hard to figure out how I want to proceed with it.

    dbmamaz thanks. I recently got a Marcie which is more for FOT (and even to Somme extent) and the wires are a littl on the wide side, but only just barely, and seem ok. I’m waiting for a FOB style to come down in price some. Other than Lucy and Kali, are there other FOB Cleo styles? I’m not sure if I am going to get any other Cleo’s though, because the gore is a bit’s higher than my Ellace and my Ellace is just as good, if not better than the Marcie.

    lcl0706 I agree. I’d still be curious to see if a 30F would fit. Especially with how it fits at the apex. It’s such a beautiful bra and I do really like it.

    cupandahalf I actually have a 30F Florence in powder blue coming. Though I’m worried about it because it was slated to arrive between April 3-11 and the tracking information stopped at March 24, which was a few days after I ordered it. So I hope that it is really on the way and not lost. I’m going to wait until Wednesday before pursuing an investigation. My Marcie was ordered a few days later and shipped from England and arrived a week ago and this one was ordered earlier and shipped from the states so I should have had it by now. There’s a Madagascar in the listings but I had wanted to wait for the Florence to arrive before deciding on getting it or not.

    wendybien yes, it’s possible that the straps are too wide and exacerbating the problem, especially given that the bra is a cup size too big. So I’d expect wider straps. I feel like I fill the main part of the cup fine, the way it is supposed to be, but not the upper part, and that a cup size down will be too small. I think it’s the wires I have the biggest issue with, and not the gapping in the cups. Though usually, if I’m at work, I eventually forget about the wires.

    Thanks for all of your input and your kind, encouraging words. All things that I have to think about. I’ve had the bra for a bit but delayed on the review because I really have/had mixed feelings about it. I’m glad I did so I could get some good feedback. Thanks again!

  • 1

    Honestly it seems like Cleo discontinued all their FOB styles. Except maybe the Piper, but I don't feel like it fits the same as the old one.

  • The fitter when I was at Scarlet in Vancouver this weekend told me that Panache has discontinued the whole Cleo line. I thought it was a bit weird. But they have a current season of stuff, right? I, sure I’ve seen a SS18 video or something. Anyone know what is going on? Was she right or just full of it?

  • 2

    Yeah they definitely do. That's very weird that she said that

  • d_queen I thought so too. I even told my friend after we left that she was full of crap.

  • d_queen & Calluna
    Panache indeed confirms Cleo still is in production:

    It includes the current line at the bottom of the page. :-)

  • MamaPagan yeah, I looked it up later and saw and sent the link to my friend. That new triangle bra looks good. I want to try it. I'm really not sure why the fitter said that. It's clear that, at least for this year, it's continuing.

  • Calluna I would assume that the fitter was just confused. The shop owner probably planned to discontinue stocking the brand line and the fitter took the news as if Panache is no longer making them. That's my theory at least!

  • 1

    MamaPagan I suppose so. This information came as I mentioned that I had a Cleo Marcie bra from that I'd recently gotten from Amazon with a credit I had from a gift, and wondered if she would allow me to try it on and have her assess it. Which she did. And it was then that she mentioned that Panache had discontinued Cleo and that was probably why there were sale/cheap bras on Amazon.

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Fit information

On Feb 2018 View measurements

Wires too wide; straps too wide and dig into armpit crease; don't fill the cups

Strap separation:
Are too far apart
Underwire length:
Is not a problem under my arms
Top of the cup:
Wrinkles, can't quite fill it
Cup's width:
There is empty fabric on the sides (Cup too wide)

This bra didn't fit her, but these did