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Feb 15, 2020

ABTF puts me in a 28G (UK) and Bratabase (with basically the same loose, snug and tight measurements) recommends 30FF - 30G with full recommendations including 28 F, FF, G, GG ,H for Pananche, Cleo, Freya etc. and then 65G, GG and 70 FF for EW, 65J - 60K - 65HH for Comexim and 65H for Chantelle.

According to guidelines I ... come out even to FOT however all my boob is side and bottom which is why I'm guessing none of the bras I recently tried worked for me. Also I thought I had narrow roots but when I do the hand press of breast to chest my natural crease is just before the start of my underarm so I'm not sure.

Recent try ons...

Panache Envy 30 FF

The band fit snug but ok, center lies flat and had good boob separation. I filled the bottom of the cup however the top where the lace is was empty/gaping. It also made my shape a bit too pointy instead of round. If I pulled the fabric on the side of the bra that is between the strap and underwire (under my arm) a tiny amount it rounded my boobs and the bra fit perfectly.

The 30 F gave me slight quad boob in my larger breast but still a bit empty in the top where the lace is in my smaller breast. Again center was flat and boobs were separated.

30 E was too small in the cups however I still had the issues with a bit of extra fabric in the underarm area. Its like needing to take in the waist of pants a tiny bit.

Panache Jasmine was pretty much a repeat of Envy.

Cleo Marcie 30 FF

Again, filled out the bottom only to have it gap on top. This bra also came up to high in my underarm area. Not the wire but the fabric between the strap and underwire. Also, this bra did not give me the separation of my two boobs like the Envy or Jasmine did.

Cleo Marcie 30 F

I fill out the bottom and top still gaps and again if I pull the fabric a tiny bit under my arm like I'm taking it in 1/8 or 1/4 inch it fits much better. I did find the band more comfortable in the Marcie.

Based on this info can someone please help in where I go from here. I'm so frustrated and ready to give up.

Loose 28.5

Snug 28

Tight 27.75

Standing 34.5

Leaning 37

Lying 34

Size recommendation 28G - UK
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- Welcome to bratabase. I hope that you become more acquainted with bras and how they fit your body. For folks here to make well-intentioned recommendations and observations, measurements of bras/yourself and pictures are very necessary! Have a look at the "fitting help" section and how the better posting are structured. Start with what you think is your best fitting bra. Unfortunately, the poster has to put some work into it to get meaningful feed-back! Good luck.
- Envy is a tall bra, and Marcie is an open bra best for full on top shapes. Envy and Jasmine are both pretty deep at the apex. If you have soft and pendulous full on bottom tissue, you will sink into the bottom of the cups and by the time you’re at the top of the cups, you will have run out of tissue. This is a factor in both the pointy aspect and loose fabric on top aspect. Jasmine and Envy fit pretty similarly, so if one fits, the other one is likely to.
  
  However, have you tried the 28FF/G in the bras mentioned? It might just give you the extra band tension you need.
  
  I would definitely suggest adding the bras to the database and measure, then post pictures for a fit check. But my initial thoughts are shape mismatch. Also, recommendations on new users can be a bit vague until it learns more about what fits and does not fit.
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65G - Ewa Michalak » Bm Kleks (861)

I think I found my Holy Grail bra. The fit is fantastic and only marginally bigger than the 65FF's I had been purchasing in this cut recently. It wrinkles ever so slightly on my smaller side (unnoticeable through clothing) and fits my larger side perfectly. The wider back feels for comfortable than the thinner one of the 65FFs. As with all of them, it's super comfortable and super pretty and I'm very excited to wear it more

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Wireless bra with best support?

What is a really good wireless bra that is both comfortable and supportive? I love my Ewa Michalak bras but I need some comfy wireless bras to alternate between - I work two jobs and have some very long days and the underwire bothers me after a while. And the VS wireless bras I bought are just a tad too ... small. I also work 6 days a week. This job schedule is all very recent and before this I was wearing a bra (EM) maybe 3 days a week (and not full days). I wear a lot of dresses and have a sort of pinup/goth style though... so I’d love some suggestions that are supportive but still comfy. In EM I wear an 80FF. Thanks!
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- Both Torrid and Lane Bryant make some really good, supportive wireless bras. I reach for them on 12+ hour work days. You can start with 36G or H and see what works best. What’s nice is you can actually go to a store and try in different sizes. Good luck!
- I love my Bravissimo Zara (I’ve got like 5 of them at the moment 😅). But I’m 30FF/32F. I found them great to lounge as well as wearing out to work or doing daily stuff . I’m going to get the new Bluebell colour soon too!
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[Resolved]It fits, but the bra appearance is not so good as new :(

I got this bra with a discount. So maybe the alteration was the reason. Or maybe my breast shape was slightly changed during the weight loss.

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30JJ - Panache » Loretta Balcony (6681)

This bra is discontinued so I won't write a too long review. It can be still found at good prices on ebay, that's where I found mine.
Sadly the construction of this bra is really off. I had royal blue 32JJ - Panache » Loretta Balcony (6681) a few years ago, that was not a perfect fit but somewhat ... decent and looked much better than this.

This 30JJ Loretta in white though is completely wrong for my shape. I wonder if it is an odd one... it seems more like they did cups for like a 36H then sewed a 30 band on them. The cups are super super wide they end on my back! The straps are super wide set, the whole bra is made for a much wider frame than mine (see picture where I wear the straps on my arms). I don't understand since I'm actually between a size 30 - 32 in bands and I cannot imagine someone needing a 30 band have a much wider ribcage than me? It makes no sense. The bra also did nothing for my boobs, the shape was awful, very droppy east - west look and there was no lift.

It could be possible that I got an odd "faulty" model, since the 32JJ was not as bad. But still I don't recommend to try it at least not in my size range, there are better bras out there.
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- Was it riding up a little bit in the side view? That doesn’t seem right.
- It is wrong to see the lateral edges of the cups from the back!
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Feb 10, 2020

I didn't know we covered Japanese brands here. Actually buying one would be a dangerous prospect because I use a middleman service that won't process returns, so I settled for wishfully looking at search results instead. They go really nuts with the lace and appliques and layered fabric sometimes. It's very pretty but goes against my philosophy of less is more.

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- When buying from Japan (well, China too), go one cup size up. Other than that, I like Japanese clothing most of the time, it's of good quality.
  Anyway, the biggest cup size I've seen is F, the smallest band is 65, so it equals to UK 65DD. Plus I've never seen bras with wide straps and bands. Cups in their bras are often cotton lined. Embroidery and lace usually hold up pretty well.
- Japanese bras can be great with good quality, beautiful embroidery and affordable price, but usually it's not worth the hassle if there is not a brick and mortar store you could visit and actually try the bras on. Most stores can only be found in Japan or major cities in Asia.
  
  Their sizing is all over the place. Across AND within brands, band and cup sizes are very inconsistent. All stores fit people with the built in +4 method in the European system, but in different brands and models the band could run TTS, 1 or 2 band sizes tighter, and the cups could fit TTS, 1 or 2 cup sizes smaller.
  
  More expensive (professional) brands have larger sizes ranges. The largest I have seen is 65-90 A-I, which roughly translate to 30-40 A-G in UK sizing, assuming they run TTS. Cheaper and more fashionable often provides only 70-80 A-F, which is roughly 32-36 A-DD as they run small in the cups.
  
  However I feel that their fabric is of higher quality (or softer and less irritable?) than Western bras, and the wires are softer and more comfortable. They are almost always lightly lined with cookie pockets and removable cookies, and majority are plunge bras because cleavage is commonly desired over there.
  
  ETA the number of hooks is usually 2 for smaller cups and 3 for larger cups. The cut-off is sometimes seen between D/E or F/G, depending on the size range of that model. The case is same for straps.
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55HH - Comexim » Musetta Balcony Bra (299)

Cup runs smaller than in my 55HH padded Comexims. Shape is like that of their padded balcony bras.

I asked for the gore to overlap, but that was only slightly achieved, and I ordered a 60H but they sent this 55HH :/

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3 - Enell » Lite Sport's (NL101)

I am a long time big fan of the regular Enell sports bra , but i only realized this existed recently. I had a breast reduction 2 months ago, and you only can wear wireless front closing post op or sport bras after the surgery. I came across this bra when I was searching bras that fit that criteria. ... While the regular enell also a front closing wireless sports bra, but that would have been too harsh after the surgery. When I realized they have a lite version I ordered it immediately, and it did not disappoint.
It was perfect after the surgery offering just the right amount of support without being super compressive like the regular Enell would have been.

I had a large reduction with almost 3 kg(over 6 lb) tissue taken out, so I was not really sure the size I needed. I ordered this a few days after my surgery when my over-bust was around 42.5-43", so I was on the border between the size 2 and 3. I ordered the bigger one (size 3), which was good at the time becase I was swollen after the surgery and also my breast were super tender. Now that all the swelling went away, I do not quite fill out the cups and there is slight wrinkling. Because it is on the bigger side on me now, it doesn't provide enough support for real sports activity, but I will use it as a lounge bra. My over bust is 41" now and technically that is included in both the size 2 and it is the start of size 3, but I am definitely a size 2 now. Somehow my new breast shape is such that I generally need 1 cupsize smaller in all bras than the calculators say. Based on online calculators i am 34 FF (UK) now, but I actually only need 34F(UK) bras and depending on the style and time of the month, I may even fit 34E(UK ) ,which is 34DDD in US and Canada.
Anyway the sizing is quite accurate, but if you are between sizes go with the smaller size if you want more support.

As I needed this immediately, I ordered whatever was available on amazon with a 1 day delivery and that was this "Ecru" colour. But let's face it, this colour is ugly. I know generally the "nude" colours are not that aesthetically pleasing, but yikes. I had the regular enell bra in the ecru colour and that was actually nice .
So unless you this colour is the only available or it is much cheaper than the other ones, go with any other colour but this.

Otherwise, this is a very good sports bra that offers great support for something that is wireless. I have the regular enell bra for high impact activities because nothing (not even panache sport) beats that when it comes to control the bounce. But the regular enell feels a bit overkill for something like strength training, and also much higher closing so hard to wear under sleeveless tops. This is a much lower cut all around and I can wear it with sleveless sport top. I am going to order a size 2 in pink.
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Comexim Sale

Comexim is having a sale this week.. 20% off! They also have a new red model that looks nice.

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- I saw the red one. Emma iirc. I’m confused if it’s in two cuts or one and if it’s lined or unlined.
- I can’t tell either. I wish they’d give a description.
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Comexim?

I’m thinking of trying Comexim again. If I’m an 80FF (in the PL and S cuts) in Ewa Michalak... what would I be in Comexim? The last time I tried Comexim their sizing was all over the place - like waaaay smaller than EM. Suggestions? Thanks!!

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- The general advice IIRC was 1 cup size up for plunges and 2 cup sizes up for the 3-part half cups. I’m not sure about their other cuts though, like the 2HCs or any of the newer ones.
- Sheena Thanks! Do you know about band size? The last couple Comexim bras I tried felt super tight in the band... but I haven’t tried comexim in about 2 years so I’m not sure if that’s changed
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