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Bras » Panache » Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) » 32J 32:13

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Fits ribcage81.4
B. perimeter0.0
Stretched Band86.0
Band Length70.6
Cup width17.3
Cup depth35.0
Wire length36.8
Cup height22.8
Cup separation2.0
Gore height10.2
Wing height12.6
Strap width1.8
Hooks3

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    Didn't fit

    I've owned this bra for a while and I'm refining my review!

    This is the prettiest bra I've owned in a long time (which might be more a comment on me) but my husband LOVES the look of the black lace. And of course, that makes me feel pretty!

    This bra gives a lovely round shape and I feel very lifted and supported. The stretch lace means that my bigger side isnt quadding and my smaller side isnt gapping, which is hard to find - I have a very big size difference.

    However, it is really too shallow for me at the bottom. I need more immediate projection than this bra has. The result is that the bra is pushed down lower on my ribcage, causing the wires to really hurt me. I keep bending the wires, and each time I wear it I seem to be able to tolerate it a little longer. So I might not want to wear this to work, but its fine for shorter outings.

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    Updated on Oct 24, 2014 Flag this


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    • Too bad it doesn't fit, because it otherwise looks great on you. And it's a very pretty bra. It looks good under your top, too. I *love* that top!

    • Thanks - i swear i got that top at walmart ages ago? Idk, maybe it was kohls. But I kept the bra - its getting more comfortable each time I wear it - i dont put on my real bras often, tho - i really dont leave the house much, and there's no way I'm strapping hardware on my chest to sit around and play world of warcraft and cook dinner and homeschool the kid

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      If it feels like strapping hardware onto your chest, then I don't blame you for not wearing your real bras often. I'm glad you kept this bra, though. Feeling pretty because someone special to you LOVES the look on you, is priceless.

      --Kristine

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      The other day when I was wearing my floris, I made my husband feel under the wire - he was surprised how hard and thick it is. To support a j cup up high on a 32 ribcage takes some serious force. and i've always been pretty sensitive. Its better now - in high school I couldnt stand a bra with a seam over the nipple. It was too irritating. But that doesnt bother me any more

      but in high school I couldnt find any 32s, so I wore 34s which were not so tight.

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      Yea, that floris looks like a pretty serious bit of engineering. I think very few guys understand how much mass and force are involved, and the consequent materials requirements. And then to make it attractive at the same time!

      I am by no means petite, but I couldn't imagine what it would be like if I were a 40J.

      --Kristine

    • So, 6 months later here, I can wear this bra a full day? Once I finally bought 2 new floris, NOW this baby breaks in? LOL Idk, maybe its because it fits different when I'm on my cycle? I seem to have random good/bad days for some bras.

      but I'm glad I kept it, and I COULD imagine buying it in beige some day if I really need a beige bra

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    Didn't fit

    At the time that I bought the Envy, the band fit looser (I've since gained weight). So although the band was very firm, I don't think I would have gone up to the next size (32 to 34). I could have used a bit more length in the band, but the 34 band was too loose. The bra seems to be the size that I normally fit into in Panache bras, so I would say that it is true to size. The stretch lace is a problem for me as I have very soft breast tissue (45 years old; years of breastfeeding), so my tissue migrates over ... the top over time, creating a bit of an overflow that shows through clothing. As well, the weight of my breasts falls mostly on the underwire as it is not distributed evenly across the cup. This leads the wire to dig into the breast tissue under the arm. I don't think a bigger cup would have solved this problem; I think I just need firmer fabric. As I have very close set breasts, I find the bottom half of the cup pulls away from the centre gore in a way that distorts my soft tissue. A deeper volume in the cup beside the gore would have solved this problem and allowed for more projection and less of an east-west pull. Overall, I do not like the stretch lace that Panache uses in its bras. It's too stretchy which results in lengthening over time, and it pills against clothing making it look cheap and feel scratchy. In the past, when I could fit into Chantelle bras, I found that Chantelle stretch lace was high quality: highly resilient over time, always reinforced with a thin band of firmer elastic along the edge of larger cups, and never pilling or becoming scratchy over time. As both companies' bras are at around the same price point (in North America), it would be lovely of Panache to use better materials in their bras.
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      I have a 32J envy! It never fit me right either. I now have a 32JJ Jasmine which works a lot better for me - but the fabric is very stretchy. 32J Floris was my favorite until I outgrew it. I can only wear it the first half of my cycle now, and I still quad a little.

      But mostly I wear my polish bras . . .

    • Hi dbmamaz,
      I was just looking at your bra reviews and I think (hope!) we might be twins in the breast department. In my town there are no shops that carry my size and I have such a hard time buying bras online: I have a closet full of lovely bras that are all duds on me. I've always wanted to find someone with a similar size and shape to me so we could trade tips and recommendations. I try to research online but most of the bra bloggers are young women who haven't yet had to deal with the inevitable effects of gravity and breastfeeding ;-). I'm generally a 32:13 or 34:12/13. But my complications are that my breasts are very close set, very soft, pendulous, with a wide root. I also have a short torso (5ft tall), so I need short wings and gores or the underwires impale me. Panache has been the brand I'm most successful with so far, but that isn't saying much. I've also got a Jasmine, but in 32J, and I have similar problems to the ones I have with the Envy: the stretch lace is just not supportive enough. I would need a higher gore in both bras for them to really work, but then my short torso makes that impossible. This is why I can't wear other Panache bras like the Floris. I did buy a Ewa Michalak bra once in 2013 (Biustonosz CH Onyks Multiway), but unfortunately it also was not supportive enough for my soft breasts: I need more breast coverage and a wider band in the back. I see that EM has more styles available now, though. Do you have any style or brand recommendations you could give me? I'd greatly appreciate any help.

    • Well, the S is the best for me for support - the padded cups have so much structure t to them that they hold my breasts high. however, there is not really enough room at the gore for my close-set boobs = BUT because my boobs are so soft, I do a reverse-scoop-and-swoop . . . I reach in from the outer side of the bra and grab my boob and pull it towards the wings. That stops me from quadding over the wires (quadding over the wires also pushes the bra down lower, where the wires dig in painfully) I have to do that 2-3 times a day, which isnt too bad. I get reminded that its time if I can see quadding through my shirt or if the wires start hurting

      75JJ - Ewa Michalak » S Granatowa Pantera is the one that still fits now

      the BM also fits but its a more natural fit - because its not padded, it does not hold me up as high. Its also higher coverage, with a stretch panel on top. I still need to reverse-swoop on this one, but it doesnt quad - the wires will still drift down and hurt, and reverse scoop fixes that.

      75J - Ewa Michalak » Bm Bibi Fuksja is my best fitting

      before I grew, panache floris was my fave (I have 3 in 32J) - but now i can just barely wear them before ovulation. I tried going up a size but it was a much older model and it was too wide and too deep - i'm not sure if they've improved the sizing or not. Floris has no stretch, but if its slightly too big, the lace wrinkles were not visible through clothing for me

      And there is a new Ewa Michalak bra that just came out that no one knows much about yet - like a BM which is padded on the bottom. I'm dying to try it

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    Used to fit

    First off the envy gives me a very round shape perhaps the roundest one with a non-padded. This isn't a good bra for you if want a more pointy or torpedo look. The fabric itself it stretchy at top only, the bottom cup is normal. Not itchy or tight. The cup perfectly molds to my bottom breasts but there is a bit of loose fabric at the top and near the top of the gore. The edge of the bra is loose. The cup fits without being too tight or loose. If you prefer a firmer fit in the cup, this bra doesn't provide ... an extra firm cup. The two things that somewhat didn't work for me, its more of a natural fit versus an uplift. Its does lift but not as much as some Panaches or Cleos. Also the support is OK, the cups are stretchy so there is some bounce, you're not jiggling all over the place but there is a little bit of a bounce. The band is also tight and has little stretch, 3 hooks. When I'm bloated or have a gained a pound or 2 the extender needs to come out. There is little give but it is supportive. The problems were minimal compared to the shape I got with this bra. I'm even shaped, wide root, round and my regular size worked.
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    Hasn't set fit

    I own this bra in a 30 band.....I can do up the 30 band, although it is a little too tight, hence I ordered the 32 band. This one only stretches to 30, this is several inches smaller than my underbust, and I could not do it up to try it properly. I suspect the cup was be too big at the top, based on other bras, but I can't say for sure.

    Black colorway

    Updated on Dec 05, 2016 Flag this

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    Added on Aug 13, 2017